User talk:Peter Isotalo/archive 1

Hi, On the article en:Beijing is a soundfile used Image:Zh-Beijing2.ogg that you have have asked to be deleted. I do not why it is removed, i can not find it on votes for deletions but please do not remove files that are in use or can be in use. Upload a new version whit the same name. --Walter 16:17, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sorry. It was my own recording, but Znode pointed out to me that the pronunciation was slightly off (I'm not a native speaker of Chinese). I'll upload one as soon as I can. Peter Isotalo 10:03, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Hi, two things. 1. Are you the actual person who records these pronunciations? 2. If so, can you make one for ZhongHuaRenMinGongHeGuo? (the full title for China). I noticed that you have one for ZhongGuo already, and just thought that the full title sounded more informative. --59.167.9.230 13:29, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Recorded and uploaded. It's been applied to Template:People's Republic of China infobox.
Peter Isotalo 14:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Audio

Hi. I fixed up some problems with Image:Zh-pinyin tones with ma.ogg. Feel free to ask for my technical help with any other audio files. Chamaeleon 01:30, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Technical problems? Please tell more.
Peter Isotalo 04:11, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Well, as you can see on my edit summary at Image:Zh-pinyin tones with ma.ogg, I "Cropped silence, removed background noise, amplified each word to correct decibel level". The file is now 2/3 of the size, but higher quality. Chamaeleon 12:58, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Very nice. Please keep at it if you find more. I think I'm going to look for a proper mic now that I'm in the US. The one I have now isn't ideal. Thank you very much.
Peter Isotalo 20:00, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

haha, ur voice is very impressive... except the "r-" sounds like a classic westerner (i mean the "zhonghua renmin gongheguo"), the rest are quite standard... ^^ just imagine i can speak as many languages as u can! --Yacht 9 July 2005 18:46 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointer. I must admit I am still somewhat unsure about that initial "r-". Is it supposed to be pronounced more like the fricative as in "zhong", but without the affrication?
Peter Isotalo 15:39, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
I am another non-native speaker of Mandarin Chinese; my pronunciation is good but not as good as yours. Indeed it should be a voiced retroflex fricative. Your file Voiced_retroflex_fricative.ogg contains the correct consonant. Perhaps you could re-record Zh-Zhonghua_renmin_gongheguo.ogg with that correction.
Ralmin 20:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
The Standard Chinese sound is not a retroflex fricative. For one thing, this fricative is the pronunciation of Russian "ж", a sound I'm familiar with on the level of a native speaker, and I can assure you that it is not equivalent to the Chinese sound as I've heard it from native speakers when studying Chinese at Stockholm University. I've verified this on a theoretical level by consulting The Phonology of Standard Chinese by San Duanmu, and he describes the Chinese sound as a kind of retroflex apprixmant with little or no frication. I'm keeping my recording for now and I hope that it'll be replaced by a native pronunciation soon.
Peter Isotalo 08:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Palatal ejective

Hi, since you did the recording of the velar ejective fo en:Velar ejective, do you think you could do one of a palatal ejective for en:Palatal ejective? --Angr 14:22, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Recorded and uploaded. Do make sure that it sounds decent. Could you also tell me what language(s) that actually use the sound? North American by any chance?
Peter Isotalo 11:33, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Image:Sv-Wikipedia.ogg

Hej, den här filen saknar licens, var snäll och märk den på lämpligt sätt. Thuresson 11:02, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Translation: Hello, this file is missing a license, please assign one to it.

Since it's only useful to Swedish Wikipedia, I think I'd rather delete it.
Peter Isotalo 14:16, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

[aʃa] and [aʂa]

Please check if the recordings of [aʃa] and [aʂa] are mixed up! Thanks (unsigned by 80.171.89.121 22:46, 27 August)

They most certainly are not. 100% sure.
Peter Isotalo 09:40, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Languages

Hi! (Fellow swede?)I admire your work and I am a frequent user of wikipedia. Just wonder (no need to answer if its improper) if you speak all those languages? And to which degree? How did you manage to learn all that? Are you a language major? Well keep up the good work.

Thank you for the compliments. I only speak Swedish and Russian as a "true" native". I learned English by age 9, so I pass for native there too, though some linguists might disagree.
I can get a long fairly well on my German and I have basic knowledge of Spanish, Latin, Mandarin and Japanese. I can also read texts in Dutch, Italian and French and understand decend amounts of it, but I've never actually studied them. I'm currently a student of Mandarin at Stockholm University, but I don't know if that will actually be my major.
Peter Isotalo 10:32, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Carl von Linné

Ljudprovet på engelska artikeln om Linné låter som god svenska, bortsett från att början saknas: Man hör bara något som liknar "arl von Linné", eventuellt "alson Linné". Är inspelningen talstyrd och slö i starten? Vore tacknämligt om hela namnet hördes. Kan du göra något åt det? /82.182.149.179 00:30, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Translation
The sound sample in the English article sounds like good Swedish except that the beginning is missing: you can only hear something resembling "arl von Linné" or "alson Linné". Is the recording voice activated and slow to start? It would be mighty helpful if the entire name was heard. Can you do something about it?
There's nothing wrong with the sound file. You just need to switch players. I've experienced the same problem with players other than Audacity and Winamp.
Peter Isotalo 06:20, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Media:Voiced_palatal_fricative.ogg

Is this really [aʝa] as the description says? I think it sounds like [ʝa a ʝa]. --Gmaxwell 20:44, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

It used to be [aʝa]. I just forgot to change it when I made a new recording. Please change any others you might come acrosss. And make that [ʝa aʝa] withut the second space.
Peter Isotalo 22:02, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[β]

Thank you for your work, but the recorded [β] is so short that I can't event heard a consonnant from this file (I just hear a short vowel). May be there is a recording problem, or some computers need a small blank before or after the sound to play it fully. --130.120.105.237 01:27, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Sigh. This is a problem that really should be fixed at the software end. There's nothing wrong with the file, it's just that some players just skip the first part of some recordings. Try Winamp or Audacity instead.
Peter Isotalo 16:17, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Err .. Arabic

The voice file you spoke for
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ar-al_Gumhuriyah_al_Iraqiya.ogg
is wrong, that's not how it sounds in Arabic!! It's not only a matter of "accent", but the word "Iraqiya" itself doesn't actually sound as it's written, there's a letter in the beginning that doesn't exist in English, thus cannot be written in English; you failed to pronounce that letter.
Furthermore, the page in the link says that you are a native Arabic speaker .. which is obviously wrong!!

The "native"-tag must've gotten there by mistake, I guess. But the file is actually modeled on a pronunciation of a native speaker. Would you care to be a bit more elaborate about the "letter in the beginning that doesn't exist in English, thus cannot be written in English", so I can correct the file (I'm a good imitator). Or, even better, record one yourself or get another native speaker to do it.
And please don't hesitate to correct obvious errors yourself when you see one. You don't need permission or assistance from the original uploader to do it.
Peter Isotalo 04:46, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
My voice just doesn't cut it :) and I'm not really sure I know how to record ogg files.
I can record one if you want so you can immitate me.
Actually, here's one I just recorded, [1] it's temporary, please tell me when you download it, so I can delete it.
Thanks
It's downloaded. Thanks for the pointers and all. I've recorded a few more Arabic sound files that you might want to check (if you're up for it).
Peter Isotalo 08:26, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Ok, the new file is up. Please let me know what you think.
Peter Isotalo 16:02, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Quechua

Hi Peter, the file info on your recording of bilabial Quechua plosives says that the copyright status is unknown. Since you created the file, could you clarify the copyright status? Thanks, Peter! Babajobu 02:55, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Fix-ed.
Peter Isotalo 04:46, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

File:De-ich habe meine Katze aufessen.ogg

As already written in the file, the grammar is wrong. The right translation can also be found there. Maybe you can make a new recording. -- Amtiss 19:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Fix-ed. New file available at Image:De-ich habe meine Katze aufgegessen.ogg. Old file marked for deletion.
Peter Isotalo 15:56, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Mao Zedong

Hi, could you record en:Mao Zedong's name? The current audio file there is awkward. GiovanniS 18:15, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

天啊! Awkward indeed... I re-uploaded my previous recording and I've informed the native contributor about the unacceptable quality of his addition.
Peter Isotalo 14:54, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Jiang Jieshi

In your recording of en:Jiang Jieshi, the pronunciation is not correct. The tones are wrong, it sounds like "Jiàng Jiěshí" instead of "Jiǎng Jièshí". I've removed the link in the article. —Babelfisch 07:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Fix-ed. Thanks for the pointer. Think you could reinsert the link?
Peter Isotalo 15:30, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Requests for the Chinese Wikibook

Sorry to disturb you on your break, but I was wondering if I could make some requests of you to help out the Chinese Wikibook. We're currently using your sound file in Lesson 1, but right now we only have two sound samples for our lessons. I'm sure it's apparent that language students will be helped by having audio examples available to them. If you could help fill in some of the blanks for our lesson vocab when you get back to recording, it would really be appreciated.

Everlong 09:43, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
I like what you've done so far. Keep up the good work. I'll whip up some recordings for lesson 1 soon enough. If possible, though, try to find a native speaker. My recordings are good enough for Chinese lessons for beginners, but a native northerner (preferably from Peking) with a decent mic would be ideal.
Peter Isotalo 00:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! I answered your message on my Wikibooks talk page about my thoughts on naming your files. I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with. As for the proper accent, I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's better than nothing and, in my opinion, uploading files with incorrect accents would be the best advertising we could do to motivate a native speaker to improve them. Asking someone to create something that didn't exist already could be harder.
Everlong 22:33, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
I like your recordings. They're overall very good, but if you'll accept my critique, a few did seem a bit off to me. Particularly, [[:File:|Făguó]] presently sounds like Fàguó, the Taiwanese pronunciation and Měiguó also sounds like it has a more of a fourth tone than a third. For hǎo I can't really explain it, but I feel it should sound more like the English "how".
Not to do with the pronunciation, for the files shéi; shuí and nǎ; něi the two syllables are alternate pronunciations of the same character, so they should be split into separate files. Sorry for the confusion, it's not really an obvious thing for there to be two ways to say a word. Do you think replacing the semicolon with an OR would make it clearer to people?
Everlong 19:56, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
"Sheí" is as far as I know only a variant of "shuí" (it most likely developed from "shuí") and appears to be associatied only with "谁". It might as well be kept in the current format unless someone finds another "shuí"-meaning.
You should point out that "něi" is more colloquial. All of my classmates who've been to China, and Peking in particular, all say that it's used more in everyday speech. I think "nǎ" seems more formal. Personally, I think "něi" is a bit easier to pronounce. The open "na"-syllable just sounds more contrived and I suspect the Chinese agree with me on that.
More recordings and re-recordings will be coming your way shortly.
Peter Isotalo 21:12, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


Rolling R

Hi, I'm Christian from Germany. I've problems with the rolling r, that's why I'm asking you whether you could help me.—-Morgenstern- 08:33, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello, Christian. I'd be delighted to help you out. What exactly seems to be the problem?
Peter Isotalo 12:14, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Thank you! Would it be possible to talk via email, because then I'd be able to send you audio files. My email is . Maybe you just send me a mail, so you don't have to put your adress into here?—-Morgenstern- 14:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
No, I'd like you to use my talkpage for pure wikibusiness. I only use email for more private correspondance, and I'm sure your sound files are hardly sensitive or confidential in nature. If you have files that need commenting, just upload them here.
Peter Isotalo 14:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi, okay no prob. Could you maybe tell me how to upload a sound file or a video file?—-Morgenstern- 18:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
I do know now how I can upload sound files (ogg) but I don't know how to upload video files (I also have a video of my tongue). But here are two sound files. I think I get the tongue vibrating, but I don't really know how to make it "voiced" so it sounds like a trilled R. Also in these two sound files I just "pushed" air against the tongue to make it vibrate, nothing different. Could you tell me whether the sound is correct?


You need to actually vibrate your vocal chords while rolling your tounge. Try humming while doing it. But I don't really understand what the purpose of your recordings are. What are you trying to illustrate that isn't covered by the existing recording of an alveolar trill.
I can't help you when it comes to .ogg-video. I have no experience with it whatsoever.
Peter Isotalo 21:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


I did it again, with the "r" between "a", like you did it in your recording. I also tried to vibrate the vocal chords. Image:Ara.ogg
You're just whispering out the trill and it sounds more like a cat purring. You need to actually try practicing some form of natural speech while doing it. Try exchaning your normal "r" with a trilled one in a word familiar to you.
But I really would like to know what the purpose of this is. Is it intended for practical use in any Wikimedia project, like for example an audio illustration for an article?
Peter Isotalo 07:30, 4 May 2006 (UTC)


Well no, it shouldn't be an audio illustration, I just loaded it up so you could help me speak a "trilled R". What is missing in my r, what it makes sound not like a trilled R? I really can notice my tongue vibratin, but it just doesn't seem to sound correctly. —-Morgenstern- 13:02, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

You could've told me your intentions from the start and saved us both a lot of time. I am not a private speech coach. I participate in the Wikimedia projects to help the various wikis improve their content, not to give advice on how to amend pronunciation difficulties.

Peter Isotalo 13:03, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I have to understand that, but didn't you say you could help me out after I had asked whether it was possible for you to help me?—84.133.113.92 14:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

duur, you said "Hello, Christian. I'd be delighted to help you out. What exactly seems to be the problem?".--24.34.18.58 00:09, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I assumed you actually planned to improve content when you asked me about assisting in pronunciation, not merely help you achieve a properly rolled r for your own private amusement. I said I'd be delighted to help because I assumed you had actually taken the time to read up on what the project is intended for.
Peter Isotalo 12:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
He said: "I'd like you to use my talkpage for pure wikibusiness". 84.56.82.10 13:11, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Alveolar Trilled R

Hi Peter,

I've a suggestion for the article "Alveolar Trilled R" and tell it you, as you've done the sound for it.

I think it would be good if there was a better and longer description as to how to pronounce that sound - do you agree with me?

And another question: I'm learning the sound at the moment. I don't have problems getting my tongue vibrating, but it sounds a little bit unnatural - the sound of the "R" often seems to be a little bit too loud, as if I just did the trill. Do you know how I can correct this (maybe with making it more voiced or other things?) Julius --Julius-r 17:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree that a pronunciation guide would be a good idea, but not in a encyclopedia. Wikipedia is not an instruction manual.
However, why not try to get a Wikibook on the subject going and try to get it linked from various articles on phonetics?
Peter Isotalo 17:30, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Thun

Hi. Can you please record a pronunciation for the city of Thun? Cheers 81.158.232.75 23:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately not. I haven't spent much time at all on French and I don't know exactly how to pronounce this particular name. I'm sure there are plenty of native French speakers who have recording capabilities, though.
Peter Isotalo 07:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


Palatal lateral approximant

Hi! Thanks for your work! A reader noticed that in en:Palatal lateral approximant the sound seems to be incorrect. I speak Portuguese too and it doesn't sound like that :) Thanks again. Adiel 01:13, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Kaiserslautern

Can you record a pronunciation for Kaiserslautern, it's a really complicated name ;-) 86.141.121.45 03:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Aussprache "RBMK"

Hallo, könntest Du vielleicht den russischen Titel zu Реактор Большой Мощности Канальный aufnehmen und in den Commons zur Verfügung stellen? Vielen Dank! --88.73.117.121 12:06, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Image:Ru-CCCP.ogg -- "non-native"?

doesn't sound like a native speaker's pronunciation. Perhaps, you meant "non-native" in the description?--Imz 16:40, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

No, I mean native. While I don't speak Russian all that well today, it was a second language to me until I was 10. That's enough for me to consider my pronunciation at a native level. Perhaps you should specify exactly what you consider awkward.
Peter Isotalo 13:36, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

French

Please stop uploading french ogg files, it's terrible.

Gonioul 00:53, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Upload one yourself instead of being rude.
Peter Isotalo 08:58, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Request for audio file(s)

Hi, thank you for your recordings of the names of Swedish provinces. Could you be so kind to record also the pronunciation of sv:Dalälven. I would really appreaciate it if you can do sv:Österdalälven and sv:Västerdalälven too. A friend of mine wrote me that local people tend to say it "Dalälv", can you confirm or reject such statement?

Thank you in advance for any help you can provide! Greetings, Zlatko + (talk) 21:30, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Recording software?

Hi! What software do you use to make your pronounciation files? --Escondites 13:30, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Audacity.
Peter Isotalo 12:56, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Zh-Zhongguo.ogg

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This media may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:Zh-Zhongguo.ogg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikimedia Commons (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page. If the content is a derivative of a copyrighted work, you need to supply the names and a licence of the original authors as well.

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Image Tagging Image:Zh-ming2zi.ogg

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This media may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:Zh-ming2zi.ogg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikimedia Commons (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page. If the content is a derivative of a copyrighted work, you need to supply the names and a licence of the original authors as well.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag, then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then you can use {{self|cc-by-sa-2.5}} to release it under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license or {{PD-self}} to release it into the public domain. See Commons:Copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have uploaded other media, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find all your uploads using the Gallery tool. Thank you. Frumpy 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

My whereabouts

I was born and raised in the San Jose, California area. My parents are from San Francisco, California and Vermont, respectively. I hope that's what you wanted to know. --Dvortygirl 05:08, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Yup. Thanks.
Peter Isotalo 07:37, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Moving pages

Hey,

The next time you decide to move a page, I'd appreciate it if you also checked for double redirects as I had to fix quite a few after you did this:

(cur) (last) 18:08, 12 March 2007 Peter Isotalo (Talk | contribs | block) (Atlas of the medieval age moved to Atlas of the Middle Ages: "Medieval age" is not the most natural of terms for this.) [rollback]

Thanks, Yonatanh 17:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:Tacuinum_sanitatis-garlic.jpg

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Image:Medieval_peasant_meal.jpg

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ʁ and ɥ in En wikipedia

Excuse me. You have recorded the sound for [ʁ], but it seems like a [v] sound instead of [ʁ] which should be a rather "back" consonant.

The sound of [ɥ] isn't very clear. Though I speak Chinese, I can't really understand that sound sample. Would you mind recording one for this letter?--61.92.239.192 03:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

German Swedish Course on Wikibooks

Hi Peter,

I would love to learn Swedish, but unfortunately is the German Swedish Course on wikibooks http://de.wikibooks.org/wiki/Schwedisch:_Inhalt

without any audio files. Do you think you can (after a long recreation of cause) contribute some audio files, to make the dialogs "hearable" over there, please? :)

Thanks for all your other contributions to wiki-sites anyway.

Leni Berlin (forgot my password, but you can find me on almost alle wikidomains)

Glottal stop

Hello, thank you very much for your recordings! But in this one, the glottal stop cannot even be heard. I know that's due to its muted nature – its volume can't be controlled, and it emerges from closing your vocal cords. Perhaps if you put a microphone inside your mouth the gl. st. will be audible? .:. Sarazyn 17:32, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Request

Hello Peter Isotalo, I found your name from an audio file. I'm wondering if you can help me write this person name in Russin: Pyotr Schurovsky. And if possible, can you record an audio file too. I would like to add to Thai Wikipedia article. th:ปโยตร์ ชูรอฟสกี้. This name is read in Thai language as /pa-yote Shu-rof-ski/, so the audio file must be pretty help. Thank you so much. --Manop 22:29, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I guess it's about time I start recording sound files again. But I'm not sure exactly what you're asking me for. Do you want the name spoken as it is pronounced in Russian or Thai? If in Russian, I need the Russian spelling.
Peter Isotalo 11:47, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Can you record that in Russian? But another problem is that I don't know that name in Russian. --Manop 18:37, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Early_breech_loaders.jpg

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Labiodentaler Flap

Hallo!

Dürften wir Ihr Soundfile zur Artikulation des labiodentalen Flaps (Labiodental_flap.ogg‎) in einem unserer Programme verwenden, dass wir kostenlos an unsere Studenten verteilen?

Mit vielen Grüßen,

Björn Lüders

As far as I'm concerned, you can include it in any work as long as it's not released for profit and I get proper attribution. I believe that this is all within the limits of the GDFL license. However, I'm not terribly good at copyleft licensing, so I recommend that you read the details of license to be absolutely sure.
Peter Isotalo 17:16, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Vasa map

Peter:

Hello, I am back from vacation and I saw your note on the Vasa map. I would be happy to create such a map. There is already a map here on Commons: here.

Let me know what you'd like me to do. Yr humble servant, MapMaster 03:47, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the two maps. I will get to work on this. It will probably take a week (at least at my present rate!!). Yours, MapMaster 03:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I have uploaded my map at Image:Voyage of the Vasa 2.svg. I hope it's accurate and I hope you like it. Let me know of any changes you would like to see. I can also add other language versions, such as Swedish, if you can provide me the proper wording.
And I also created a map with only Swedish placenames: Image:Voyage of the Vasa Locator.svg. Sincerely yours, MapMaster 16:14, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Image license

Do you mund publishing Image:Zh-pinyin tones with ma.ogg under the cc-by-sa lincense please? I want to upload it to wikitravel if you dont mind. Thanks.

Done.
Peter Isotalo 06:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. but do you mind changing it to 2.5 version please? 218.189.178.238 09:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
How so?
Peter Isotalo 15:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
You just add the right template, which is "Multi-license GFDL, CC-BY-SA 1.0 to 3.0". Thanks a lot. Orel zion 04:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Frankfurt Airport tunnel.JPG

 
Frankfurt airport tunnel
Photo by Peter Isotalo

Could you please clarify which tunnel is shown on your image Image:Frankfurt Airport tunnel.JPG shown at right?
I would imagine it is the tunnel under the apron between the transit areas (i.e. behind passport control) of areas A and B, but am of course not sure, since I have never been in that tunnel. --L.Willms 05:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

The tunnel between A and B sounds right, but I actually don't remember.
Peter Isotalo 07:28, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Swedish K-9 car.jpg

Hi. Just noted that a source is commented as missing for this image (I guess you are likely the source). Could you please provide it? I'm just wondering if the day will come when images like this will otherwise be deleted. Cheers. Ingolfson 08:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Retroflex and Alveolar approximants

How would one determine whether his pronunciation of /r/ is a retroflex approximant or alveolar approximant? I had never even noticed a difference, even though I probably should have, being that I live in the US and that's apparently the only place where the retroflex approximant can be heard. -- ErikB Talk 00:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

In a linguistic context, you'd have to analyze it through spectrograms or x-rays. If you're sensitive to minute variations in pronunciation (which people who are good at imitating accents always are), it's possible to hear the difference without advanced equipment, but few people have this ability and it's difficult to use it as evidence per se.
However, the US isn't the only place where you can hear this sound. Mandarin Chinese, and especially the Beijing dialect of it, has very pronounced retroflex approximants, which as far as I know is even more retroflex than the US /r/. It's used as a sort of suffix in many types of nouns. Just like in American English, it can give non-natives an impression of a kind "hot potato"-pronunciation.
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Perestroika

The Soundfile of Perestrojka is cut unluckily, so you can only hear "stroika". Neither directly with Firefox nor downloaded with VLC you can hear it as a whole.

The file is fine, but many players like to cut short .ogg-files. Use Winamp or Audacity instead.
Peter Isotalo 16:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Maps of Africa

Peter, I was very surprised to find so few maps of Africa in that article. I would be happy to help put together a few. Send me what you think might be useful, and I'll sift thru whatever maps Wikipedia has and others that I could find. Sounds very interesting, MapMaster 02:28, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

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Tsaritsyn

Hi, the file Ru-Tsaritsyn.ogg (as used in Volgograd) sounds more like "Царица" than "Царицын" to me no matter how many times I listen to it.

Also, if you could record a file for "Alla Borisovna Pugacheva" (Алла Борисовна Пугачёва) I would be grateful. I made a couple attempts myself but wasn't confident enough in my pronunciation. Thanks. 71.197.215.4 20:08, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Зимний вечер

Большое вам спасибо за то, что озвучили столько русских слов для английской википедии, но "Зимний вечер", извините, вы прочитали, просто ужасно. Вы не против, если я перезапишу его? Я являюсь лауреатом множества конкурсов чтецов. --Moscvitch 14:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


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pronunciation of Mendeleev

I have a question about your pronunciation of Mendeleev (Mendeleyev) here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ru-Dmitri_Mendeleev.ogg

Yours sounds like 3 syllables: MEN-de-leev But others pronounce it with 4 syllables: MEN-de-LAY-ev

I am trying to determine the proper way to pronounce it for an English language educational video.

Thanks.

That's four syllables. If it sounds like three, it's because the transition isn't accentuated as it would be if someone pronounced the word in English. There's definitely a [j] between the third and fourth syllables.
And the stress, btw, is on the third syllable, even in my pronunciation. I don't know if you by "MEN" mean some type of secondary stress, but as far as I know this is more for English prosody than it for Russian prosody.
Peter Isotalo 10:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Request. Pronunciation files for en:Category:Swedish orienteers

Hi, Peter!

Can I ask you to add pronunciation files for name-surname of Swedish orienteers? The list of desired Swedish surnames can be found here en:Category:Swedish orienteers. If their quantity is too high I will like to have pronunciation files only for orienteers who are in russian wiki ru:Категория:Ориентировщики Швеции (name-surname).

Thanks in advance and sorry about my terrible English. --Dnikitin (talk) 22:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images

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ɕ - improper description

Voiceless_alveolo-palatal_fricative.ogg's description says it's for a voiceless bilabial fricative. Also, as criticism on your vowel recordings, most of them are diphthongs, if short ones, not true flat vowels. I could make recordings of the flat versions, but couldn't be counted as a native speaker for many of them, as English has a lot of vowels that are in-between IPA values or are short diphthongs. LokiClock (talk) 18:03, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Description fixed. However, you don't need to contact the original contributors about minor stuff like fixing a description: just be bold instead. As for vowels, you should try to be a bit more specific about exactly what files you're talking about, but I beleive you've contacted the wrong user. I've only made pronunication files for consonants. You're probably looking for User:Denelson83.
Peter Isotalo 04:57, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Ah, sorry. Indeed, I am. But the edit button doesn't show up for me, so I couldn't fix it myself. LokiClock (talk) 00:16, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Aspirated stops

Hi Peter, thanks very much for all the sound files on Wikipedia, they're really helpful.

I'm thinking we should add recordings of some aspirated stops to WP (to the aspiration article, and to the articles on the stops themselves). This would show how they contrast with their plain counterparts, which you have already recorded. For the English Wikipedia, I guess [pʰ], [tʰ] and [kʰ] would be the most relevant - then English speakers who are studying phonetics could clearly hear the difference that aspiration makes. Do you happen to have such recordings already?

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