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Naming guidelinesEdit

I’m totally lost, it seems: Not only I cannot be sure how to name a very simple icon I need to create (     ) but I can’t even find the page with filenaming guidelines. :-\ -- Tuválkin 15:16, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

@Tuvalkin: I'm not totally sure about that one either. I think uhvKRZW~L could be correct (per Talk:BSicon/Renaming/Archive 12#WSTR); the water would probably be expected to line up normally, per   (uhvKRZt~L) (the dashes aren't transformed along with the viaduct), although I thought that could be an issue. Jc86035 (talk) 15:22, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • I thought of uhvKRZW~L, too, or maybe uhvWKRZ~L — but when I tried to check it with the main page with all the naming guidelines, I searched everywhere I couldn’t find it. Where is it? -- Tuválkin 16:55, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
@Tuvalkin: I think the only thing that isn't mentioned is that W can now be used as a suffix. The other parts could largely be constructed from the available information. Jc86035 (talk) 04:56, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 
vSTR
 
c\hcdvSTR~L
 
hcdvSTR~R\c
 
 
uhvKRZt~L
 
 
 
There should be a v- (not a plain v) in the name because there is only a single line. Useddenim (talk) 15:47, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
@Useddenim: I don't think that would be necessary. Because of the transform the track centre is at x=500, and implying that there are two tracks (at x=375 and x=625) obviates the need to explicitly remove a formation at x=500; the two formations are supposed to be at x=250 and x=750. The name with the transform is also shorter than uhv-KRZW(Rr).
See also   (hcdvSTR~L) /   (hcdvSTR~R); I uploaded these last June and I don't think they would have been possible without the ~L/~R suffixes. Jc86035 (talk) 15:57, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Hmmm, the cdvs don't line up with anything, and uhvKRZt~L is definitely a single parallel line. Useddenim (talk) 20:35, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
@Useddenim: They do actually line up; the lines are at x=125 and x=250. (The transformation is for half the width or height of the icon, and this sort of situation is why I chose to propose it this way instead of using a fixed one.) Jc86035 (talk) 03:38, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Guys, please, can anyone point me to the page about naming guidelines? That’s all I wanted. -- Tuválkin 08:28, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
    @Tuvalkin: I don't think we have one, actually. The main catalogue page explains a lot of the rules, but we don't really have anything else. Jc86035 (talk) 09:19, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Ah, yes, that’s what I was looking for! Thanks so much, @Jc86035: Indeed not the place we’d think about, and I browsed links to the catalog mentally going «Not here, not here, … — where the hell is it?» -- Tuválkin 13:26, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Parallel, across, mixedEdit

Is   (vSTRq saffron+teal) supposed to be named mvSTRq teal+saffron or mvSTRq saffron+teal? If we were to take mvSTR teal+saffron and rotate it 90° anticlockwise we would get this icon, so we would be using the former name. However, if we were to follow the top-to-bottom naming logic of the horizontal parallel lines syntax, we would use the latter name.

I don't remember if there are any correctly-named icons which are like this, but I don't think there are any. Per Talk:BSicon/Renaming/Archive 9#Parallel lines, the consensus is to ignore that the parallel mixed icons don't use the same naming logic as other icons (e.g.   (emvSTR) vs.   (emKRZ)), so it's not clear to me which one it should be. Jc86035 (talk) 04:00, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Choose one and create a redirect from the other. It won't matter unless someone needs the inverse. Useddenim (talk) 20:44, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
There is actually   (fmvKSTRaq +yellow), which I renamed last July based on the first approach. I guess that settles it. Jc86035 (talk) 10:48, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

A better name for thisEdit

I needed this one and searched a long time for it, and then a long time for its name:   (SHI1r+SHI1c4). Any better ideas? -- Tuválkin 20:25, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

@Tuvalkin: I think SHI1r+c4 would be better (other options include vvSHI1r-SHI1r- and vSHI1+l~R). However, this search indicates that there's only one icon named this way,   (SHI2gl+c4) (uploaded by Vunz), and it uses a regular corner instead of a two-quarter shift corner. In Talk:BSicon/Renaming/Archive 11#BS2 there was rough consensus to e.g. use SHI2rxl+c2 for   (BS2rxl), so I think it would also be appropriate to rename   (SHI2gl+c4) to SHI2gl+STRc4. Jc86035 (talk) 12:16, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
  Done. Jc86035 (talk) 11:02, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Parallel crossover junctionsEdit

@Useddenim, Tuvalkin: I'm not sure what   (vÜWBl+rxl) should be named (I've already tried to rename it). There are four tracks, but only three l/r suffixes, so it's not possible to just use the x suffix for the 16 possible combinations. Using the e/x suffixes (like   (evÜWBl) or   (evÜWBr)) would necessitate the renaming of the eight or so exvÜWB...+... icons to exvÜWB...+x... (like   (exvÜSTx), so e.g.   (exvÜWBl+r) would become exvÜWBl+xr). Is there another option that I'm missing? Jc86035 (talk) 14:52, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

e
x
vSTR+
e
x
ÜWB…
. Problem solved. Useddenim (talk) 15:04, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
@Useddenim: I think I would prefer adding the x suffix to that, given that it wouldn't literally be correct (    ≠     ) and would unnecessarily lengthen the icon names. Jc86035 (talk) 15:08, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
vPSL+ÜWB? Useddenim (talk) 15:14, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
@Useddenim: I don't think PSL would work either, since the secondary track is supposed to be thinner.
Would you mind the +xlr option? I think it could be better to just do that. Jc86035 (talk) 15:19, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
I guess that would work. Maybe you should create an old name/new name table to be clear? Useddenim (talk) 15:47, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
@Useddenim: It's just these five. I didn't realize that there were only two of these in set u. Jc86035 (talk) 15:58, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Current Proposed
  (exvÜWBl+l) exvÜWBl+xl
  (exvÜWBl+r) exvÜWBl+xr
  (exvÜWBr+l) exvÜWBr+xl
  (exvÜWBr+r) exvÜWBr+xr
  (vÜWBxl+lr) evÜWBl+lr

┌───────────────────┘
  Done Jc86035 (talk) 12:08, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Parallel lines (legacy naming syntax)Edit

@Useddenim, Tuvalkin: Should the   (vSTRegl) and   (vSTRgl) groups of icons be renamed? The latter would be trivial to rename, but the former would either necessitate a (trivial) extension to the SPL syntax (essentially, replacing "vSTR" with "SPL" and not doing anything else) or necessitate an extension to the SHI1 syntax to allow for combining 90° junctions. Jc86035 (talk) 16:58, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes (to SPL) and yes (to STR-STR). Useddenim (talk) 20:08, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
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