LutiV
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File:Belfagor (baritono), figurino di Luigi Sapelli per Belfagor (1923) - Archivio Storico Ricordi ICON003374.jpg
editHey, um... I don't think this is from Belfagor. Not with "Il Piccolo Haydn" in big text over it. Swapped two files? Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:08, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Adam Cuerden Yes, you're right. It is "Il Piccolo Haydn", I'm correcting metadata right now. thank you! --LutiV (talk) 08:21, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- No worries! Figured I was best off bringing it to you, in case it wasn't an intended release, or if you wanted to upload the original described image as well. (Or in case of the unlikely event that somehow Haydn appeared in Belfegor as an inset opera or something) Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:34, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Actually, there is someone begging for Respighi over on the opera page, so if you do bring Belfagor here, do let me know. Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:36, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- I've uploaded this set design for Belfagor File:La piazzetta di un piccolo paese del litorale toscano, bozzetto di Cesare Fratino per Belfagor (1923) - Archivio Storico Ricordi ICON009515.jpg--LutiV (talk) 10:06, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Actually, there is someone begging for Respighi over on the opera page, so if you do bring Belfagor here, do let me know. Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:36, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- No worries! Figured I was best off bringing it to you, in case it wasn't an intended release, or if you wanted to upload the original described image as well. (Or in case of the unlikely event that somehow Haydn appeared in Belfegor as an inset opera or something) Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:34, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
By the way...
editI've kind of been cutting down some of the date ranges on photographs by looking up the date of the photography studio being founded. This showed that File:Arrigo Boito (before 1918) - Archivio Storico Ricordi FOTO002997.jpg can't be from before 1900, and that File:Amilcare Ponchielli (before 1886) - Archivio Storico Ricordi FOTO000794.jpg is after 1866. It's a useful trick, I think you'll agree. Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:31, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your suggestion. We used the date of death of the subject to date the photos because in our database there is still no insight into the photographers. I agree that the information about the photography studio wuold be very useful for this purpose. I'll try to have a look to those photos and cut down the date ranges.--LutiV (talk) 10:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
File:Ricchi giardini nel Palazzo di Monforte a Palermo, bozzetto di Filippo Peroni per I Vespri siciliani (s.d.) - Archivio Storico Ricordi ICON000132 - Restoration.jpg
editWhat do you think about this? I tried t deal with finger-based weardown of the paint on the edges, and also cropped, and I'm wondering if the crop was a mistake. What do you think? Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:46, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
- I do not think cropping was a mistake, that was just the edge of the digitization, not the passepartout. The set design looks very well! --LutiV (talk) 07:40, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- Excellent. That's the tenth restoration, by the way. I've listed all of them over on en:WT:OPERA (ignore Edgar, there was nothing for me to do on that one so I just put it up for featured picture). I don't like to promise order of doing things - I can be quite flighty - but I'm thinking Belfagor soon. Mind you, I do have a rule that 1/2 of my featured restorations must relate to women (because I so underrepresented women in past restorations before that rule) so I might jump off of the list occasionally, since fictional women don't count (although costume designs for identified actresses do), and a lot of the photographs of women are a bit small to be featured. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:50, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- I've seen your restorations, they are so beautiful, a real upgrade of the images. If you are looking for pictures of women, may I suggest you this one File:Maria Waldmann (1876) - Archivio Storico Ricordi FOTO001721.jpg? or this File:Elena Bianchini Cappelli (before 1919) - Archivio Storico Ricordi FOTO000785.jpg, that portraits the soprano in the role of Brunilde.--LutiV (talk) 07:53, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- Excellent. That's the tenth restoration, by the way. I've listed all of them over on en:WT:OPERA (ignore Edgar, there was nothing for me to do on that one so I just put it up for featured picture). I don't like to promise order of doing things - I can be quite flighty - but I'm thinking Belfagor soon. Mind you, I do have a rule that 1/2 of my featured restorations must relate to women (because I so underrepresented women in past restorations before that rule) so I might jump off of the list occasionally, since fictional women don't count (although costume designs for identified actresses do), and a lot of the photographs of women are a bit small to be featured. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:50, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
File:Vasta spianata presso Courtray, bozzetto di Giuseppe Palanti per Edgar (s.d.) - Archivio Storico Ricordi ICON000128 B.jpg
editLet me run some ideas by you for dating this:
We know it's by Giuseppe Palanti, who was born in 1881. Now, there weren't that many performances of Edgar, so, unless I'm missing one, we can use them to date. 1889? ...We can probably discount Palanti doing a set design at 8 years old. We can probably discount the 1891 and 1892 revisions for similar reasons. Now, Palanti was working in 1904 (Madama Butterfly costumes), so the 1905 (Teatro Colón in Buenos Aires) is probably the first chance for him to have worked on it, and I think the last performance relevant to us is in 1920 (Valletta), although I suppose the Teatro Lirico di Milano in 1944 is just about possible (he died in 1946), but seems unlikely, unless there's other evidence in the Ricordi archive of him being active in opera around that time. My checking of the archive - its somewhat awkward search feature notwithstanding - seems to indicate that he was mostly active with Ricordi around 1904-1909, so I'd say the 1905 performance is most likely. I could be wrong.
(I am presuming it:Edgar has a complete list of performances, mind you) Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:48, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I think it can be dated in a range between 1905 and 1944, I'll update the metadata.--LutiV (talk) 07:59, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
File:Cassandra e Glauca figlia di Creonte, figurino di artista ignoto per Medea (s.d.) - Archivio Storico Ricordi ICON009295.jpg
editGentile Valeria, il file sopraindicato sta venendo interpretato come se fosse riferito alla Medea di Cherubini, di gran lunga l'opera più famosa sull'argomento. Siccome però il personaggio di Cassandra non figura tra quelli previsti dal libretto, ho maturato l'opinione che potrebbe trattarsi invece di un figurino per la Medea di Pacini. Prima di inserire, eventualmente io stesso, questa notizia, volevo chiederle però se le fosse possibile effettuare una verifica. La ringrazio molto. Cordialmente.--Jeanambr (talk) 11:19, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Jeanambr: sì esatto, come è riportato nella descrizione dell'immagine, l'opera è la Medea di Pacini. --LutiV (talk) 10:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Grazie, qualcuno ha già anche fatto le modifiche necessarie. Buongiorno.--Jeanambr (talk) 10:28, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Rename of File:Don Carlo (tenore), figurino di Alfred Albert per Don Carlos (1867) - Archivio Storico Ricordi ICON001220.jpg
editI propose renaming this file to File:Carlo V (basso), figurino di Alfred Albert per Don Carlos (1867) - Archivio Storico Ricordi ICON001220.jpg. Charles Quint appears at the end of Act V, which you can verify at the bottom of p. 357 of the 1867 Escudier piano-vocal score. Notice his music is notated in bass clef. It's also very unlikely Don Carlos would wear a crown. Best, --Robert.Allen (talk) 05:14, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Robert.Allen Yes, thank you very much for pointing this out. LutiV (talk) 08:12, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
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