Mr rnddude

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-- Wikimedia Commons Welcome (talk) 13:03, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

It's a bit of a mess

Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#User:Sealle

"I came to this from en.wiki (changes on my watchlist). I can honestly say, despite witnessing six or seven en.wiki ArbCom desysopping proceedings, I have never seen an admin behave this atrociously: aiding in harassment, abusing rollback, and then blocking the victim is unbelievable. Although all projects are separate, y'all could definitely learn from how en.wiki handled this: en:User talk:Bidgee. In brief summary, I noticed an editor leaving harassing messages to Bidgee on their UTP, called in a request for a page protect, and within 15 minutes: 1. the harasser was blocked, 2. the UTP was protected to prevent further harassment, and 3. the harassment was revdelled from the page. Contrast that against what happened here. Bitterly disappointing."

As to not further derail that discussion I'd like to reply here. This isn't the worst we've had. Most recent we've had Commons:Administrators/Requests/Jcb (de-adminship 4) (there's a long list of links that Jeff G. had compiled in the votes), and yes, 4 is a sequential number. That de-adminship request wasn't even the end of things.

Also Commons:Administrators/Requests/INeverCry (de-adminship) and Commons:Administrators/Requests/Daphne Lantier (desysop) (same person), much fun.

Learning from past mistakes is also not everybody's strong suit, see for example the closing message in Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems/Archive 80#EugeneZelenko's strange rationales for deletion requests and then look at this recent DR. Or this report on Jameslwoodward's supervote. I don't recall seeing a clear response to indicate this won't happen again. I'll just hope. And these last two are bureaucrats.. But there's no silver bullet.

As for talk page protection, that's more problematic on Commons than it is on Wikipedia for mostly technical reasons. When an image is nominated for deletion, the primary notification to the uploader is a message on their talk page. Protecting the talk page opens them up for some serious inconvenience, being unable to defend their uploads. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 17:46, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz - Thanks for the information. I'm familiar with INC, primarily because they were banned on en.wiki (in large part due to the behaviour on commons), then globally banned, and then WMF banned. I'm also at least tangentially aware that other projects have much worse admin issues than en.wiki does (eo.wiki apparently has only a single admin who basically controls the entire place with no dissenting voices allowed, for example). I'll grant that, at least there is a community-based desysopping process on commons.wiki, something which was relinquished by en.wiki years ago and has become a perennial proposal to recreate since. We have our fair share of admins who do foolish things, but this... would be the fastest of fast tracks to an ArbCom case. Mr rnddude (talk) 06:25, 14 March 2020 (UTC)