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Odesa renames

Thanks for your hard work in identifying these files to be renamed! --DannyS712 (talk) 06:12, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

@DannyS712 and ITZQing: Well, but Odessa is not wrong spelling, it is alternative spelling. If you open en:Odesa, you can read: Odesa (also spelled Odessa), so it is not obvious error and it does not fall under FR p.3, but falls under COM:FRNOT, p.1,2. So it should NOT be renamed.--Anatoliy 🇺🇦 (talk) 13:14, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I checked and it doesn't meet criteria to decline the rename. The source I gave explains why it should be renamed. And thank you for reminding me that this is an issue that should be discussed. ITZQing (talk) 14:34, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

"Odessa" is a historical name spelling. After the Ukrainian government revise the city's English name, it should be slowly replaced, such as Vilnius' historical spelling "Vilna (Вильна)". However, due to the influence of the former Soviet Union and the increase in the number of non-Ukrainian cities with the same spelling at that time (also an influence of the former Soviet Union), this revision has been very slowly carried into modern times. I think this is an issue we should all pay attention to. ITZQing (talk) 14:49, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

No, it should not. Commons is multilingual project. We should not name only in Ukrainian. It may be any language.--Anatoliy 🇺🇦 (talk) 14:59, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

If you know Russian and Ukrainian, you should know that the transliteration is not like this (for example, the Russian transliteration of Odesa Oblast is Odesskaya oblast' and the Ukrainian transliteration is "Odeska oblast". We are talking about English spelling, as for other languages, we should not interfere. ITZQing (talk) 15:08, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

For example, if this example is true, then a file named "Odesa qizhi of the East-West Museum of Odesa Oblast.svg" can also be true.You can state that qizhi (lit.: flag) is Chinese. This can cause great confusion, and we should be careful about language distinctions. ITZQing (talk) 15:23, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Other language is not reason for renaming, see COM:FRNOT, p.2.--Anatoliy 🇺🇦 (talk) 17:40, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes, because this file is named in English, the English spelling is important. ITZQing (talk) 17:52, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

there's no reason to favor English over other languages.--Anatoliy 🇺🇦 (talk) 17:53, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

I think you misunderstood. What I meant to say is that the file name I applied to change is basically spelled in English. If it is not in English, then I will not edit it (unless there are other obvious errors). ITZQing (talk) 17:59, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

But in English it is not obvious error. It is a bit better - COM:FRNOT, p.1.--Anatoliy 🇺🇦 (talk) 18:00, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

As I said, many places in modern times are called "Odessa", but Odesa, Ukraine is only spelled this way in English for historical reasons. I think changing to Odesa is also consistent with com:FNC"Only information is the location (broad)". ITZQing (talk) 18:14, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

And regarding how to identify "obvious error", in a city, if the government announces modern spellings, then the modern spellings are correct, and the historical spellings are "obvious error", such as Beijing and Peking. This is especially true if the "brand" follows suit. (Leave it as is without following). And the part about history, a historical object, using words to describe things in the present, should use modern spelling, like "We should not Old English spelling into the text of modern published 'Shakespeare Collected Works', even if it is Original spelling". ITZQing (talk) 18:32, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

This "also spelled Odessa" is to help those who do not know the new spelling (such as most intellectuals in the former Soviet Union) find the correct location, and to prevent other cities such as "Odessa, Texas" and "Odessa, Delaware" from being mistaken for Odesa, Ukraine. . I think it should exist because it's "knowledge", but that doesn't excuse the old spelling from being the main spelling. ITZQing (talk) 15:03, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Name of image should not be disambiguate. It is also not reason for renaming.--Anatoliy 🇺🇦 (talk) 17:40, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Copyright status: File:Chechen Alphabet (Italic) From Children's Book.png

Copyright status: File:Chechen Alphabet (Italic) From Children's Book.png

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And also:

• File:Chechen Alphabet (Upright) From Children's Book.png

Yours sincerely, Yann (talk) 14:47, 16 February 2024 (UTC)