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Thanks!! :)--Granata92 ^Talk! 02:17, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Logo GreenTauros

Hi, I read that you want the OTRS authorization from Michele Genovese. How can I give it to you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fendizer (talk • contribs)

@Fendizer: (reply from a stalker) See COM:OTRS for details on how to submit a license verification. Revent (talk) 12:46, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Deleted publication released by Creatvie commons licence

Publication net.art kot zgodovinska avantgarda, uploaded by Cacophonia https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Cacophonia was deleted, thought it is clearly marked as issued by creative commons licence on pages 0, 58 and 61 Please Undelete

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cacophonia (talk • contribs) 08:51, June 10, 2015‎ (UTC)

@Cacophonia: Can you provide me with a link to the publication you're referring to? INeverCry 21:26, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Another one

Hi there! File:Marcus Johansson 2.JPG: I think this guy is trying to find a girl friend with that cake, is this permitted? (We -fat people- should somehow get this pick deleted. :-) --E4024 (talk) 12:34, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

I consider an image like that to be gratuitous exhibitionism, but if others get something out of it, more power to them. As to fat people having it deleted, that doesn't concern me, as I'm a skinny person. INeverCry 21:32, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Jack Swigert statue pictures request

You deleted the four pictures that I uploaded, Jack Swigert statue at Denver Airport - 1.jpg through Jack Swigert statue at Denver Airport - 4.jpg.

In the deletion discussion, I offered to contact the artists who created the sculpture to get a copyright release. I requested help with that procedure (what do I need to tell them Wikimedia needs by way of release, etc.) but no-one gave me the advice I requested, and you ignored that request and just deleted the files, which I find to be exasperating behaviour.

There is another problem. Since I uploaded those four pictures some years ago, my computer hard drive crashed and I lost my own copies of them. On hearing that they might be deleted I resolved to download the copies at Wikimedia if it seemed that the deletion debate was tending towards "delete" rather than "keep" but your precipitate action of deletion without warning, without responding to my request for advice, means I had no warning, and have no copies of my own pictures any more. Can you at least dig out those pictures for me and e-mail them to me please? O'Dea (talk) 21:40, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

See COM:OTRS for details on license permissions. Revent (talk) 21:44, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

@O'Dea: I can email you the 4 images, but you'll have to send me a quick email so I can send them directly to your email, as email thru Commons doesn't allow attachments. As to the other part of your message above, I handle a heavy load of deletion requests, so I often do things quick and by the books and then move on to the next request. My apologies if this particular close upset you. INeverCry 21:56, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello, INeverCry. Muchas gracias por añadirme al grupo de usuarios autoverificados. El retrato que tienes a la derecha de esta página es muy bueno, es de los mejor pintados que he visto, es casi como una fotografía. --MARC912374 (talk) 13:37, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Ilya Repin. INeverCry 21:34, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Was a very great painter. No entiendo mucho sobre el arte de la pintura, pero me parece un retrato muy bueno, más realista que los retratos de Picasso. Un saludo cordial. --MARC912374 (talk) 23:45, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

John Singer Sargent is my other favorite portrait painter. INeverCry 23:56, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Estas pinturas del Titanic también me parecen muy realistas. Una lástima que algunas de ellas representen un trágico naufragio causado por torpezas humanas. Seguro que alguien como tú sabrá apreciar la técnica realista de muchas de esas pinturas. Stuart Williamson también pintó cuadros del Titanic. Good bye, and thank you very much. --MARC912374 (talk) 00:07, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Possible copyvio

Please, check this. Thanks in advance.--Fixertool (talk) 16:09, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done Uploads nuked, user warned. INeverCry 22:07, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Chianti images, possible sock

Hi, you recently deleted File:BOTTIGLIA_CHIANTI_RISERVA_-_THE_VINUM_"il_Rosso".tif, and shortly thereafter a user with a similar username created File:Chianti in spiaggia.jpg. I removed the cc-by-sa license from it and tagged it as orphan fair use. Feel free to revert if that was incorrect to do.

I recall from seeing the first image yesterday before it was deleted, that the two images are the same subject. If you can look at the revision history of the one you deleted, are they the same image? Amatulic (talk) 22:42, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Not same image, but same brand/maker. I've blocked the 2nd account and asked User:Wine lover 1 to contact OTRS with permission before continuing to upload images. INeverCry 23:31, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

William F. Frye

Hi, today you deleted a file that is most likely in public domain or is a personal photo of Blyhigh. As I posted previously on the page, I thought my mother had the copyright to the file because my father was a portrait photographer from Oregon. So I asked on the forum how I can transfer the right to the person who posted the file originally. It is probably his dad or relative. However, my mother later told me that my father never took that shot. Our family lawyer confirmed that. I tried to help blyhigh but ended up hurting him. How can the file https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:William_F._Frye.jpg be reuploaded? Thanks. A.K. Russo19:10, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

The copyright holder should send a permission email to OTRS. INeverCry 23:33, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Sorry. Again...

Remember a few hours ago? Thank you.--Fixertool (talk) 02:50, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done Uploads nuked, user blocked. INeverCry 05:05, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

File:Barefoot is back.PNG

Why did you delete this file and the others as a copyright violation when they had permission for non-commercial use? --AusLondonder (talk) 06:10, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Commons doesn't accept licenses that restrict commercial use. See COM:L for license policy. INeverCry 07:24, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

With regards to File:Barefoot skateboard trick.PNG which you deleted, commercial use is allowed.--AusLondonder (talk) 08:44, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

But it prohibits derivative use, which is yet another license that's not allowed on Commons. As for File:Barefoot is back.PNG, I would also point out that while the image itself has a Flickr license, the image is of a large logo, which is itself copyrighted, making the photo of it a derivative work. The Flickr uploader is unlikely to be the copyright holder of the logo, so OTRS permission from the logo's creator/copyright holder would be needed before that image could be hosted on Commons. To reiterate, the license for File:Barefoot skateboard trick.PNG would have to drop the ND to be hosted here. Have a look at Flickr image info for a quick guide to acceptable licenses for Commons. INeverCry 10:08, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

pictures deleted

Hi there, you deleted the following files File:Rob Small.jpg File:In Hospital.JPG File:Rob with pulk.jpg I was unsure how to edit the files to add the correct licence before they were deleted. these files are all free to use with permission given by the holders Steve Hall, Nancy Small and Seb Coulthard respectively and are all already online in the public domain. How do i go about fixing this so the files can be used? kindest regards Gazloki (talk)

You have to address the issue brought up by LX at Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Gazloki. We need confirmation of permission for an acceptable free license for each file from each author. See COM:L for license guidelines, and OTRS for directions on having the copyright holders send permission. INeverCry 20:13, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi

Could you full protect my user page? Thank You. 1989 05:42, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done INeverCry 06:10, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

"Mary Ann Tighe portrait by Arthur Elgort.jpg"

Hey there, I sent a permission statement to "permissions-commons@wikimedia.org" on June 9th from Mary Ann Tighe (who owns the rights to the photograph that Arthur Elgort took of her) that states the image I uploaded can be posted to Wikimedia Commons for everyone’s use. If there's something else I can do to get the image reinstated, please let me know...I'm new to Wikimedia and appreciate the help. Thank you! MisterRedDog88 (talk) 13:28, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

@MisterRedDog88: The OTRS voluteer will contact you by email, or request undeletion if everything is in order. There is a backlog, so it might take a little while. Revent (talk) 13:38, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Undeletion request

Hi there! Would you consider undeleting File:Uberstudent-1.0-education-menu.jpg? I came across it while closing possibly-unfree-file discussions on enwiki. The image is a screenshot of FOSS software, and the source page clearly displays a CC-BY-SA license. If there's some other reason it's still not appropriate for Commons, we can keep the local copy instead. —Darkwind (talk) 11:27, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done I've restored it and updated the source/author info. Hopefully your fellow admin agrees with this? I would also note that the screenshots on that page that contain screensaver images may not be OK unless the images themselves are also free (in case anyone was thinking of uploading more screencaps from that source). INeverCry 20:10, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

NewZealand123 sockpuppet

The editor referred to here is no doubt User:NewZealand123. Although he hasn't edited with this (yet another) throw-away account in a long time, please consider a belated block. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:47, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done INeverCry 21:56, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks, my friend. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:57, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

File:2015 Lunocet Pro.jpg

This file was deleted for copyright violation. The uploader claimed it was their own work. How did you establish that this was not true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pbsouthwood (talk • contribs) · · · Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 11:18, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

@Pbsouthwood: (stalking here, as usual) The image appears to be a stock photo of a commercial product with an obviously copyrightable design, and is available from the website of the designer, as was noted in the speedy deletion nomination. Because the image was previously published on the internet, and because it is a derivative work of a copyrightable object, it cannot be on commons without a declaration of consent per COM:OTRS.

Not that I can speak for INC, but looking at the image the deletion was obvious. COM:NETCOPYRIGHT probably applies here. Revent (talk) 08:55, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Just to make it more clear, after rereading what I wrote, I mean that the way in which the product is depicted in the photograph is 'obviously copyrightable'... the object itself is utilitarian, though of a unique (and presumably patented) design. Revent (talk) 09:28, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

The uploader claimed own work. If this is true, then the uploader can license the photo as they choose, whether is has been used on the net bere or not. I agree that is is possible that they were lying, but the username chosen suggests it is possible that the photo was taken and uploaded by the designer/manufacturer of the product, who wished to remain anonymous. Has this been checked in any way? · · · Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 11:18, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Another photograph of Anderson

[1] This photograph, I had intended to be of the police station, but it's even worse than the other two photos because of how far a distance I took it from. So I think it should be deleted. PaulBustion87 (talk) 08:32, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done INeverCry 08:35, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

[2],That was a photo I took from my mother's car of the sheriff's office/county jail. That was probably also worse than the two I uploaded today.PaulBustion87 (talk) 08:51, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done INeverCry 08:53, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

My uploadings of public domain photos

I believe, if my memory is correct, that you accepted that my copyright claims were valid on a lot of the public domain photos I uploaded. There are still a handful left, such as this one, they are from the same website so I'm pretty sure the answer will be that they're approved, but the formality needs to be gone through,[3].PaulBustion87 (talk) 09:56, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

They look fine to me. They'll all get reviewed within the next day or two. INeverCry 10:03, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

My Fire Department photo

I posted a photo of my city's Fire Department,[4]. But it was not very good because a large shrub covered up a large portion of the building, including almost all of the sign that said Anderson Fire Department, and a car was driving in front of the building, and I was on the opposite street. I think that photo should just be deleted, along with my other Anderson Police Department photo, and I'll just take a photo of them when I'm outside next to them sometime. I walk past my city's fire and police stations frequently on my way to the library, and I've figured out how to photograph them without their noticing me. Since I have a cell phone I just carry it in my hand after pushing the button to focus on the camera section and have my hand next to my pocket so no one notices I'm using it and then press the click button, that way no one will talk to me about it. So I probably should be able to get the better photos of the police and fire stations today, so go ahead and delete the bad photos. PaulBustion87 (talk) 10:11, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done INeverCry 19:41, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

File:Glen E. Friedman by Brett Ratner.jpg

Hi INeverCry, can you tell me what was wrong with File:Glen E. Friedman by Brett Ratner.jpg, please? There is an OTRS ticket:2007021310015872 concerning images posted on Glen E. Friedman's website. Thanks, --B (talk) 11:31, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

This image gives the source as Matte Magazine and no OTRS ticket is present. INeverCry 19:48, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, I will inquire with the requestor as to the source. He says that it was submitted by an employee of the copyright holder (he gave a person's name, not Matte Magazine) so I will ask him to clarify and to have that person send in an appropriate statement of permission. --B (talk) 20:29, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Иоанн Геометр

Здравствуйте, уважаемый коллега Иоанн Геометр, почему удалено изображение из статьи Иоанн Геометр? Это же фреска 16 века. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wlbw68 (talk • contribs) 19:01, June 17, 2015‎ (UTC)

File:Εκκλησία-της-Παναγίας-της-Ασίνου-4.jpg was sourced to http://www.thematictourism.com.cy/ru_RU/%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%85/, which states "© 2015 Thematic Tourism In Cyprus". There's no evidence that the images on that page are released under a free license. INeverCry 19:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Minor barnstar
	Because your are comeback, however, I hope that you are here now forever and with a good health The Photographer (talk) 19:08, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks Wilfredo. I hope you and Beria are well. I'm epileptic, so the best I can do is manage my condition with medications from my doctor, and stay relaxed and avoid conflict. The medication is the easy part of course... INeverCry 20:12, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
  • It's a good thing you said that. So if you run into this episode, don't watch it. Lazlo 13:24, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
• I recommend taking chamomile tea or star anise. Listening to classical music also helps. Beria and I are very good, I also suffer from asthma episodes when I visit the section of rare books from my favorite bookstore, but nothing compared to your problem. --The Photographer (talk) 14:26, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Andy-2.png second file

Thanks for handling the close and deletion of the originally nom'ed file. Could you also attend to File:WikiPage2.png that was bulked with it? DMacks (talk) 02:41, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I deleted it earlier. If you can still see it, try a cache purge. This is one of our current bugs. INeverCry 06:29, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Wow, that was really deeply cached. I was able to see the image, and the link to it was blue, until just a few minutes ago (despite trying some cache tricks earlier). All gone now. DMacks (talk) 07:40, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

File:Best man's speech.JPG

Hi, INC. Could you delete this file please? I only uploaded it here so it would get rotated. --Antiquary (talk) 14:13, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done INeverCry 20:28, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

 Obliged --Antiquary (talk) 21:26, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Question

Maestro, I generally use a cellphone for taking pictures, and tend to keep them in smaller (around 250-300 kb) versions for space economy. I wonder if I load (as I have done sometimes) the bigger versions (around 1 mb) will that give better result in picture quality or will it be an unnecessary burden on the system? Thanks in advance. --E4024 (talk) 14:12, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Space isn't an issue here, so I would recommend using the higher quality settings available on your phone for taking images. INeverCry 19:56, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Moreover the servers automatically generate thumbnails and other reduced previews, so users with limited space or bandwidth can choose a size suitable for their needs regardless of how large the original may be. Note that a decent tabloid or A3 print (let alone a large poster) calls for an image of about ten megapixels or more, and high-quality archival photos of paintings run in the gigabytes, so a file can scarcely be too large! Except that the maximum file size is 100 MiB here, for technical reasons. In principle you could upload a 10-GB picture as a 10 × 10 mosaic of 100-MB tiles.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 20:16, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

OTRS ticket 2015052210012293

Hi INeverCry, could you please restore File:GPNBadra School.jpg (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) and File:CPF panorama.jpg (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) per ticket 2015052210012293? Thanks, --B (talk) 12:28, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done. --Túrelio (talk) 20:11, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Eranbot Project

user:INeverCry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EranBot/Copyright/rc might be of interest to you. When the bot is running smooth, you get to edits in time for quick copyvio undos. --(en:wp user) Lucas559 (talk) 22:24, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Mitsucarman

Hi,

Thanks for deleting Mitsucarman's images as per Commons:Deletion requests/Files of User:Mitsucarman (second attempt). Just letting you know that you missed this one: File:Mitsubishi Tredia 1600 GLS (1983).jpg. Cheers! OSX (talk • contributions) 01:10, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done INeverCry 01:12, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, and also: File:1988 Mitsubishi Magna (TN) Elite sedan (2006-12-21).jpg which was hidden as an edit had been made over the top of the file. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:14, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done Possibly an older account of User:MundusEditus, maybe even the original master. Reminds me of him and his socks. INeverCry 01:25, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

deletion

I just saw you nominated a few images for deletion, thats why I write here. I saw these images was uploaded, and got different categories. I normally do not nominate for deletion at Commons, so I hope you want to do it :-) (if you agree they should be deleted, off course). Christian75 (talk) 23:34, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done: Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Dago labe luc. INeverCry 23:47, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Can you take a look at this, please?

Someone's moving files here from en:WP and I just saw this File:Star Trek. -startrek (15893218716).jpg. I'm sure this is under copyright because Star Trek first went on the air in 1966. Thanks, We hope (talk) 02:38, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Marked as copyvio. Ellin Beltz (talk) 03:39, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

And deleted. INeverCry 04:24, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you both! :-) We hope (talk) 13:35, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Wetenschatje

Hello! Have a look, please, to User:Wetenschatje. A virtual of Biopics.
With best regards, --George Chernilevsky ^talk 12:46, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked by Steinsplitter. Lazlo 16:48, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

File:Krasnoe znamja Tashkent 1917.jpg

ENG. On what basis do you delete photos Krasnoe znamya Tashkent 1917.jpg? date and place of photography September 1917, it is in the public domain as are all pictures taken on the territory of the former Russian Empire until November 1917.

RUS. На каком основании вы удалили фотографию Krasnoe znamya Tashkent 1917.jpg? дата и место этой фотографии сентябрь 1917 года, она находится в общественном достоянии, как находятся все фотографии сделанные на территории бывшей Российской империи до ноября 1917 . --Vladlen666 (talk) 16:45, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

I've restored it. I've removed the US/UK licenses as {{PD-RusEmpire}} is the only necessary license as long as the photographer is unknown. INeverCry 19:11, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Почему удалили File:Yuryev.jpg???

Почему удалили File:Yuryev.jpg??? Я лично снимал видео, и сделал с него скриншот! У вас нестерпимое желание побольше уничтожить? Я не верю, что это делается в целях защиты авторских прав. Я не мог сам на себя подать жалобу. Rusliner (talk) 00:15, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

---> COM:UDEL. INeverCry 02:55, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Fixing sources

 Done. File:Susana Gaspar 2015 (cropped).jpg, File:Susana Gaspar 2015.jpg. Disclaimer: For a reason I am not able to understand the spam filter triggers with the abbreviated link at the precise time (30 s) THIS ONE without the first h of http: ttps://youtu.be/aD2I-ClG5us?t=30s So then I used the full link without proper timing (but still the capture is around 30 s). --Asqueladd (talk) 06:17, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done I've reviewed and passed both files. INeverCry 06:24, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Adolf de Meyer

Hi, Did you copy these images to the English WP before deleting them (Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:L´après-midi d´un faune by Adolf de Meyer)? If you didn't I will do it. Regards, Yann (talk) 08:41, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

No I didn't. INeverCry 19:37, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Smitkova at the 2015 Aegon International

Hi, can you please rename files in Category:Tereza Smitková from Aegon international 2015? This is not Smitkova (she plays with HEAD, not Babolat and this is Smitkova on grass 2015, she looks like daughter of Petr Korda :). I don't know who is that girl on pictures. Thank you.--Kacir (talk) 14:01, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done Yeah, that's Naomi Broady. I've watched her play quite a few times - (kinda hard to miss that gold medallion she wears on her necklace just about every tournament).

@Tm: If you have time, can you let the uploader know this isn't Smitkova, but rather Naomi Broady of Britain? INeverCry 20:39, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes, I sent him a notice on Flickr.--Kacir (talk) 21:44, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

File:Hakeem Olajuwon Basketball.jpg

Hello, I am curious as to why that file was deleted. I found the file here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/texasheart/8498607276 in which only some rights were reserved. It states that I am free to:

Share — copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format.

Under the following terms:

Attribution — You must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use.

NonCommercial — You may not use the material for commercial purposes.

NoDerivatives — If you remix, transform, or build upon the material, you may not distribute the modified material. No additional restrictions — You may not apply legal terms or technological measures that legally restrict others from doing anything the license permits.

I believe I followed all of the guidelines, and I feel it was wrongly deleted. Thanks. Gamezero05 (talk) 04:02, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Commons doesn't accept non-commercial or non-derivative licenses. See {{Flickr image info}} for Flickr image licensing guidelines. You can also review Commons:Flickr files for a detailed guideline concerning Flickr files. INeverCry 04:14, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Really old DNs

Greetings INC: I tried to clear even more old DNs today and found that most/many/a lot of the oldest ones are all my nominations and I don't feel good about closing my own nominations, even when all the votes are vd. Could you take a look and see what we can do to wipe out this nearly month-old backlog? Thanks! Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:16, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. I'm glad you liked that tree. It's 100+ here, so I was thinking more of the shade! INeverCry 19:09, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

@Ellin Beltz: I closed quite a few of the old DRs. I was going to close that 6,000 file May DR, but Green Giant beat me too them by a matter of minutes. INeverCry 00:20, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I had to do it, I swear. I haven't closed many DR's this month, so I had to do it. Green Giant (talk) 01:23, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

You shot up to #2 for the month. Good to see decisive action like that - it shows a bit of moxie. Nice to see Ellin using that block button lately too. INeverCry 02:13, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

No. 2 and still less than half the number by some other nerds :P Moxie? Some sort of tropical disease? I'll have you know that I'm up to date with all my inoculations! Green Giant (talk) 04:06, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

It takes a sick sick man to close a 6,000 file DR... INeverCry 04:54, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Portulaca Grandiflora.jpg

In Commons:Deletion requests/File:Portulaca Grandiflora.jpg, I think the uploader and nominator just asked to delete the last version of the file, but you deleted all versions. May you check it, please? Thank you.--Pere prlpz (talk) 07:43, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

The uploader re-uploaded the sharp version under a different name: File:Whitekt-2.jpg. INeverCry 08:13, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

OK. Thank you.--Pere prlpz (talk) 10:17, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Copyvios

Please, check these uploads. Thanks in advance. --Fixertool (talk) 04:51, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done INeverCry 05:04, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

File:Livingston-Island-Map-2010.jpg

Dear INeverCry, I have restored the media File:Livingston-Island-Map-2010.jpg that you deleted yesterday as it is duly licensed. Please review it to satisfy yourself it complies with Commons:Licensing, and I wonder how the entailed bot-delinking could be undone so as to restore the media's usage in a number of other Wiki projects? Best, Apcbg (talk) 07:05, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

The file has now been tagged as needing permission, so you should deal with that process before re-adding it to any articles. INeverCry 09:15, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

No toe-stepping intended, didn't realize you were currently active. Revent (talk) 09:29, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Any time you want to take some work off my hands, you're welcome too it. INeverCry 09:42, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Ayuda para aclarar todo

Estimado usuario INeverCry Soy el usuario JMRAFFi He buscado ayuda en todos los campos para aclarar el borrado de mis imagenes y fotografías, tengo muy claro lo de Creative Commons derechos de autor, pero he seguido muchos pasos para comprobarles el uso de las fotografías para algunos artículos y también para comprobarles mis diseños, ya que soy diseñador gráfico, pero nada de lo que hago para comprobarles resulta, quisiera que por favor me ayudara al respecto, porque quiero aclarar el mal entendido. mando unas pruebas de mi trabajo.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10153180410038138.1073741827.235736408137&type=3 http://www.panoramio.com/user/5390394 http://impresorajmra.blogspot.com/

Como podra ver en las pruebas los diseños los elabore para posteriormente hacer las imagenes y asi tener el derecho para usarlas ya que comprendo lo de las licencias y derechos de autor no e utilizado ninguna copia ni falsificación, por favor le pido me ayude, le mande un enlace de mi negocio que es de diseño como prueba. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JMRAFFi (talk • contribs) 20:29, June 30, 2015‎ (UTC)

I don't quite understand what you're asking, even with Google Translate. I would recommend you choose a Spanish-speaking admin from Commons:List of administrators by language to ask this question. INeverCry 20:34, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

@JMRAFFi: Don't revert unrelated archiving on my talk page again as you did here. INeverCry 21:41, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Please help restore with deleted files

What can be done to restore the deleted files of Yash Dasgupta

Permission mail sent and had been granted (?) with ticket Ticket#2015042810006497

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:YashD_Shooting_BSB_Kolkata_profile.jpg. And YashD_full_profile_at_Bojhena_se_Bojhena_shoot.jpg Please advice, for months I running pillar to post to have this there!

Someone asked to change at the place for OTRS tags now others comes and says I can't do it, Please Help, look into this matter and restore!

These pictures are clicked by Me.

You can ask about OTRS matters at the OTRS Noticeboard. I'm not an OTRS member myself, so I can't view OTRS tickets. INeverCry 21:59, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, have posted there, can you point me to any OTRS volunteer for speedy response or to get to the bottom of this for restoration of the Files.

File:Glen E. Friedman by Brett Ratner.jpg

Hi INeverCry. Could you please restore File:Glen E. Friedman by Brett Ratner.jpg? OTRS ticket 2007021310015872 now contains appropriate permission for this image. --B (talk) 10:26, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Done. --Steinsplitter (talk) 10:28, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

@Steinsplitter: Thanks. --B (talk) 10:31, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

File:25_Palestinian_people.jpg

Hi INeverCry, can you please provide me the description data for this image that included all the source information? I will be uploading a new version without the Juliano Mer Khamis image that caused it to be deleted. Lazyfoxx (talk) 19:07, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Or perhaps just transfer the source information to the new image? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Palestinians.JPG Lazyfoxx (talk) 19:25, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I've copy/pasted it to your talk in case you need to adjust it before adding it to the new image. INeverCry 19:38, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks very much! Lazyfoxx (talk) 19:45, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Jack Swigert pictures, again

Hi. I sent you an e-mail with my e-mail address a few weeks ago, as you requested, so I could get copies of the four deleted Jack Swigert statue pictures, Jack Swigert statue at Denver Airport - 1.jpg through Jack Swigert statue at Denver Airport - 4.jpg. Perhaps you have been busy, but I have not heard from you since. This note is a reminder that I am still waiting for the pictures to be sent. Thank you. O'Dea (talk) 10:46, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

@O'Dea: Here you go:

• File:Jack Swigert statue at Denver Airport - 1.jpg
• File:Jack Swigert statue at Denver Airport - 2.jpg
• File:Jack Swigert statue at Denver Airport - 3.jpg
• File:Jack Swigert statue at Denver Airport - 4.jpg

Let me know when you've gotten your copies, and I'll re-delete them. INeverCry 19:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

@O'Dea: I've re-deleted them, as I can't keep them undeleted for very long. If you didn't get copies of them, you'll have to request temporary undeletion formally via COM:UDEL. INeverCry 18:59, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Oopsie

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Copa Escobar.png marked "deleted", but the file is still with us! Ellin Beltz (talk) 14:40, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Also some files in this one Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Muqeemkhan... looks like commons was buggy last night! Ellin Beltz (talk) 14:42, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

The first was re-uploaded within hours of my first deletion. All the files in the mass DR were deleted, but the ones you were/are still seeing are subject to a caching bug. Just purge the page, and they show as deleted. INeverCry 19:13, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

I do/did hit purge, but like this one: Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by GFX designer some files remain none the less. Except for the ones reuploaded instantly, I think it's some kind of a system bug, it's happened to me too! Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:54, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Crated phabricator:T104711 --Steinsplitter (talk) 16:40, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

File:Autoretrato de Yanto Laitano em elevador.jpg

Dear INeverCry, I would like to know what is the problem with the file I´ve posted (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Autoretrato_de_Yanto_Laitano_em_elevador.jpg). I fixed the problem but the file was deleted.

Thank you, Tumpatumcla~commonswiki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tumpatumcla~commonswiki (talk • contribs) 16:40, July 5, 2015‎ (UTC)

This was first uploaded with Yanto Laitano as author and later changed to "own work". The image has been previously published on other websites. If you're Yanto Laitano, you'll need to send an email to OTRS, preferably from a yantolaitano.com email address. INeverCry 18:52, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, INeverCry. I am new at the Wiki world. Actually I don'e know if I am answering you in a suitable way (according to Wiki style) or not. Yes, it was published on other websites by myself. Well, I will send an email to OTRS but I will use my personal account. Is that ok? Tumpatumcla~commonswiki (talk) 21:41, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

A yantolaitano.com email address would be beyond doubt, but it's ultimately up to the OTRS member who handles your email to determine if the permission you send is sufficient. INeverCry 21:48, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

I wrote to OTRS. Thank you, Tumpatumcla~commonswiki (talk) 00:52, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

dear INeverCry, i think there are being created difficulties in excess to this newbie. i know him personally, he is my friend, i am an old user and i think my word could be taken into account on this issue. what he is saying is true, i have no reason to doubt him. and he being the author, why he can't upload his selfportrait here? there must be no doubt about the identity of Yanto Laitano and the authorship of the pictures he would upload. hope you understand. thanks! tetraktys (talk) 22:11, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

An OTRS email will put any question as to his identity and authorship of the image beyond doubt, and can be helpful in avoiding any possible future confusion and questions. If you or he disagree with my decision in this case, you have the option of posting an undeletion request. INeverCry 22:38, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

ok, thanks tetraktys (talk) 23:33, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

BTW, the change to {{own}} as author was done by myself, since Yanto asked for help. tetraktys (talk) 15:31, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Disneyland Paris media

Any chance you could do a fuller review on the related categories? A mass review would have more credibility from and admin, than a somewhat infamous contributor like myself.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 01:11, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

No, I've already got quite a full plate as it is. You look to be doing a good job with these anyways. INeverCry 01:20, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

File:Red Sunrise (2077109409).jpg

This file that you deleted as out of scope, is not out of scope as it is (or was until you deleted) in Wikiquote article about Judas Priest. So this file must be undeleted per scope. Also i, as the uploader was not notified to this deletion request. Tm (talk) 01:04, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

 Done INeverCry 01:08, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick and positive answer. Tm (talk) 01:09, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

help

Heya: I'm getting my cast off today, and I have a person (longest posts) on my talk page who needs help from someone besides me. Could you? Thanks! Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:28, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

I've commented there. INeverCry 21:04, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of photo depicting Kurt Walter Bachstitz by Arnold Genthe

Hi, you deleted this photo File:Bachstitz Walter portrait by Arnold Genthe (1923).png. You argued that it was possibly copyrighted. It is not, because the author, Arnold Genthe is dead since 1942. You can check him out on the German Wikipedia for example. This means that his work is public domain in the EU and the US. There are tons of photos by Arnold Genthe on Wiki Commons already.

best Henning

 Done INeverCry 21:35, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Danke.

UN deletions

I believe this file was deleted by mistake. {{PD-UN}} was deprecated based on out-of-date information as explained on the talk page. The template for this file should have been changed to {{PD-UN-doc}}. It's currently in use on Wikisource and is PD. Thanks, The Haz _talk 21:08, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

 Done INeverCry 21:27, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! The Haz _talk 21:39, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Please, check this

Thanks in advance--Fixertool (talk) 23:31, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

 Done INeverCry 23:53, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bengali people.jpg

Hi INeverCry, I see that you deleted/authorised deletion of the above collage. I note that there was no deletion discussion, probably because no one in wikipedia appears to have been notified that the discussion was even taking place. The nominator didn't even bother putting a notification on the article's talkpage ie. Talk:Bengalis (or any of the relevent wikiprojects) or tag the wikiarticle so that editors were aware that there was any problem. I was involved with the comprehensive discussions about who was going to appear in the collage. Sorry but as an editor without experience of pictures or wikicommons i don't know how to get this collage back. I will start a discussion on the Bengalis talkpage asking that the editors involved with creating the collage assist in getting it back. As an experienced picture person, i would very much appreciate your assistance in this regard. thanks Coolabahapple (talk) 06:06, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

I've temporarily restored File:Bengali people.jpg. There are 2 images in the collage that have no source image here on Commons. If @Nafsadh: or someone else can switch out the image in the top right corner of Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay with File:Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay.jpg, and the 4th image in the third row of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman with File:Sheikh mujibur rahman1950.jpg, which looks to be the best quality Commons image of this gentleman, the collage can be kept permanently. All files used in the collage have to be sourced. I can give him a day or two (or anyone else who has time to fix those 2 images). Without a fix, the image would have to be re-deleted. INeverCry 15:59, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Please refer to the discussion here: en:Talk:Bengalis#Non-free_images_in_collage. We have resolved all known issues there. I believe, one missing source (Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay) is indeed in PD. Another image of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman File:Sheikh_mujibur_rahman1950.jpg is in Commons. If current one does not comply, we can change. Nafsadh (talk) 03:43, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

No discussion of image copyright on en.wiki will negate Commons policy, namely COM:FU. The two images I mention above are not on Commons. One was recently deleted. We need the 2 unsourced images to be replaced with free ones in the collage in order to keep it hosted here. I can give you a day or two. INeverCry 05:50, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

The discussion on en:Wiki was about commons compliance for the collage. I am unsure if File:Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay.jpg is really a photo, it rather appears like a painting and could be non-free. Our finding was that, the other file on en:Wiki was free and commons compliant; please check if you concur. If so, we can move that file here. I am updating the collage by replacing both photos with the ones now on commons. Nafsadh (talk) 06:53, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Updated, please delete previous version from history. Nafsadh (talk) 07:08, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

 Done Looks good to me. File:Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay.jpg looks like a contemporary engraving or print done from a photo for publication. He looks to be around 40 years old, so this is probably circa 1870s/1880s. INeverCry 07:16, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi INeverCry, thankyou Coolabahapple (talk) 16:32, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Abriss Brinkamahof

What was wrong with the license [5]? The photograph is from 1929 and Anonymous-EU was appropriate. Kind regards.--Mehlauge (talk) 07:39, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

I missed the change from PD-old-90 to Anon-EU. I've restored it. INeverCry 19:12, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Tx.--Mehlauge (talk) 16:14, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello

How can we have an "invented" flag here? How can we delete File:Flag of Pontus.svg? Thanks. --E4024 (talk) 08:12, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

The flag is in use in 16 articles and a template, so deletion would only be possible if there was evidence the design was a copyright violation. INeverCry 18:00, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Jack Swigert statue: thanks.

I retrieved those four pictures a few days ago as I was about to go out and did not linger to inform you, and to say thank you for posting them here. Now I say, a belated thank you. O'Dea (talk) 12:34, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

COM/UP

Raised at Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#INeverCry Andy Dingley (talk) 14:44, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Commons:Administrators/Requests/INeverCry (de-adminship)

I am aware that you might not see this message — as I see you have disabled Special:EmailUser — so this is just to formally inform you that I have just started a request to remove your administrator privileges here on Commons. It is probably something you expected to happen, but let me just say that I take no pleasure in initiating this request and consider it necessary red tape. I'm very sad to see you go, particularly in circumstances like these. Take care, odder (talk) 18:57, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

retirement

In whatever condition you are or wherever you live but keep something in mind: You most likely have the chance to leave stuff you don't like alone and going for some awesome experiences (like hiking in the wild or whatever you like(d)). Sometimes you just have to remember what was good for you. Take that time! Don't waste it with something that makes you upset. -- Rillke^(q?) 20:37, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Sorry to see you go like that. Thanks for all the help I received from you. Good luck!

Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 04:01, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Staszek Wawrykiewicz

I wonder what was a reason you had deletedr https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stanis%C5%82aw_Wawrykiewicz&action=history Staszek's photo. Could you explain? Fugiel (talk) 18:10, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

@Fugiel: INeverCry is currently not available. So I am going to answer your question: The deletion followed a deletion request you were notified about. If you are not Andrzej Odyniec, you shouldn't use {{Self}} yielding in I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby publish it under the following licenses:, which is obviously wrong in this case because you aren't the copyright holder. You wrote Zgoda Autor uzyskana osobiście oraz wyrażona na stronie on the file description page: Please forward this e-Mail or a scan of the mail to our support team (permissions-commons-pl@wikimedia.org), so it can be archived and we can make sure the author gave sufficient permission and is aware of the consequences their licensing of the work will have to them. -- Rillke^(q?) 18:27, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Another kitten for you!

I'm sorry for all that has happened. I hope that you aren't offended by what I posted to the desysopping page. I want you to feel good about life. I want you to do that for yourself and your supporters. That's your new responsibilty.

Michaeldsuarez (talk) 18:30, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

A beer for you!

I'm sorry that you are leaving. Your participation was very valuable. Thanks! Andrey Korzun (talk) 08:40, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Saddened to see you go again. I'm not sure what has caused this but take care of your health first. Commons will still be here if and when you decide to return. Green Giant (talk) 10:00, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

+1. Yann (talk) 10:24, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

+1. — Racconish^📥 11:12, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

+1.-- Geagea (talk) 16:18, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

+1, as per what Andrey Korzun wrote. --Túrelio (talk) 18:37, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

+1, I hope you are doing well. Enjoy the beer. ;-) --McZusatz (talk) 22:10, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

+1. Take good care of your health. Jianhui67 ^{talk★contribs} 03:44, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

+1 Thx for all and be safe. Gunnex (talk) 20:00, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

+1. Thibaut120094 (talk) 15:52, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello, might I suggest a break? Clearly something is upsetting you. I have been there myself. I propose reevaluating issues in a month. With a calmer mind. What do you say? -- とある白い猫 ^ちぃ？ 18:37, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

You never cry

Turkish version of tres leches cake, for you.

You never cry but we may. Please just eat something sweet, make vacations and come back when you feel better. We need you. Take care. --E4024 (talk) 15:04, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Block notice

This account has been blocked until Tue, 11 Aug 2015 16:34:34 GMT (30 days from start of block). Blocking admin: me (Pitke). Reason for block: abuse of admin tools, baseless accusations, disruptive editing. One block reason I failed to remember to enter while blocking was pointiness (in the form of accusations and blocks, and edit summary for deleting their user page).

Previous to this block INeverCry had placed an indefinite block on themselves on grounds of "Intimidation/harassment", and blanked their user page and user talk with messages implying they were intending to leave Commons for a good long while, if not forever.

My original understanding of INC's situation was that their patience had failed and they had acted hasty and In light of recent discussion on INC's de-adminship proposal and elsewhere, my personal interpretation was that INC had grown overly impatient and perhaps paranoid of an user with an all-project block and a range of sockpuppets. The edit summary ICN left as they deleted their user page supports this assumption rather heftily.

In this light, in my understanding INC's autoblock was a part of a pointy demonstration that went something like this: 1) "these users are [a certain blocked user's] sockpuppets or cronies, no one else is going to block them so I will" 2) "and here's the block the Secret Cabal will give me when they catch me so I'll save them the trouble and block myself".

I hope that in a month's time INC will have calmed down and will be able to discuss the situation in a constructive way. However my experience on Wikipedia is that users who start acting out or being pointy due to suspicions of Secret Cabals do not have a favourable prognosis as a contributing member of a project.

I personally view my block action not only as a block due to misconduct but also as an amendment of an overly long block made based on wrong reasons. --Pitke (talk) 14:29, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Commons:Administrators/Requests/INeverCry (de-adminship)

I have just closed the de-admin request and, as no doubt you will have anticipated, will now have to request a steward to remove your admin rights. I am so sorry that we have apparently lost you from Commons. Please take care. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 18:50, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Undeleted files

Hello. Could you please delete File:Продолжение Свода законов (1834).jpg and File:Свод законов Российской империи том 01 (1912).djvu? They haven't been deleted despite of admins' decisions on COM:DEL. Thanks! Hausratte (talk) 16:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

INC is no longer an admin so I went ahead and deleted the files. Natuur12 (talk) 16:42, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Cuban_Revolution_map.svg

• Кнопочку нажми! Карту удалил, а она все равно осталось в этой помойке.
• Click a button! Card removed, and it is still in the garbage.
• https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Cuban_Revolution_map.svg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vladlen666 (talk • contribs) 07:57, July 8, 2015‎ (UTC)

I'll be back...

I guess I'll have to wait another week or so before editing here again. My July 11 actions were occasioned by Russavia's creation of the account Snitches get stitches, which I have every reason to believe was directed squarely at me, since I've reported 100+ of his sock accounts to WMFOffice.

Hopefully I can get back the filemover right, which I was given in 2010, and the image reviewer right, as I've done a lot of work there and can keep backlogs down. I was thinking again of retiring earlier, but I've put in too much work and enjoy being at Commons too much to let a bad day or some bad moments stand in the way of more good years to come. INeverCry 18:47, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Good to see you back. I added the file mover and the license review flag to your account. Natuur12 (talk) 18:50, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Glad to see you are back. -- Geagea (talk) 19:01, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

+1 ;oD Yann (talk) 19:05, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

+1 - wb - for the second time - for good now? ;-) -- Maxxl² - talk 19:13, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks guys, I'll be back to work in 10 days or so. If anyone wants to get in a quick deletion, User:INeverCry/Stats isn't going to be of any use for a very long time, if ever. INeverCry 19:23, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

 Done. -- Geagea (talk) 19:33, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

You can keep the wiki out of the nerd but you can't keep the nerd out of the wiki. Welcome back but as advised before, go slow...slow go. Green Giant (talk) 21:26, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I can't stay away, but right now I'm stuck in park as it where. INeverCry 21:36, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

I'd unblock you in a heartbeat, but I think the right way to go would be to ping the blocking or an uninvolved admin. Good to see you back here and forgive me my door teaser. :-) --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 05:28, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

@Hedwig in Washington: Here's how it's done in case you change your mind: [6]. . INeverCry 07:54, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Glad to see you back! Progress and work slowly. :) Jianhui67 ^{talk★contribs} 09:35, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

• It'll be good to have you back. ColonialGrid (talk) 13:20, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Doesn't help me, INC, 'cause I don't know Eric. --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 19:01, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

@Hedwig in Washington: Yeah, I started a shitstorm with that unblock anyways, though I don't regret it. I wouldn't want to see you get yourself in any trouble unblocking me though. I was just in a bit of a pissy mood yesterday. Sorry about that old friend. INeverCry 00:59, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

No harm done. Not getting into any trouble. Just thought it might be smart to let neutral peeps do that for a change. Heads up, all will be good. --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 04:16, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

I tried to explain what happened during the discussion:

• Commons:Administrators/Requests/INeverCry_(de-adminship)#Comments
• Commons_talk:Administrators/Requests/INeverCry_(de-adminship)#Proposal_to_close.2C_then_start_anew_after_an_one-week_recess

But I'm glad that your departure wasn't permanent. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 20:23, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

@Michaeldsuarez: Thanks. Here's something you may have missed... In any case, the cell door opens in a week... And then I'm going to...do a bunch of license reviews and DRs... INeverCry 23:51, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

A little present from the community!

	A little present from the community
	You own revolving door! May you use it in good health! Sorry, I just couldn't resist! Welcome back! Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 05:24, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Looks good, but blocked users aren't allowed through the door, even if they do have 250,000 edits and 350,000 log actions... Russavia was still allowed to do 500+ edits here today though, including one right out on AN/U. Isn't that nice and fair? INeverCry 07:54, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, Commons isn't 100% fair. Nice yes, most times at least. And hey, no more R******a usage. You said so yourself. ;) --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 19:08, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

I know. I was venting. I appreciate the present. INeverCry 00:59, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

	Whoever said... Life is fair
	has never been a mouse. So glad to see you back. Hang out in the sun, stick to "purr" and "meow" and everything will work out! Ellin Beltz (talk) 22:49, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Ellin. Good to hear from you. I'm feeding the nursing mother cat 4 or 5 times a day right now. She lets me pet her like she was mine now. I started feeding her and several others about 3 years ago when they were only about 6 months old. The other female cat isn't all that big, but she has attitude to make up for it; the males are now 2 or 3 times as big as they were back then... I let my neighbor feed them. He's an auto mechanic, so he can afford it better.

As for me coming back, when I get back, I'm going to stick to license reviewing and the uncatted pile. At least I no longer have to think about adminship... INeverCry 00:59, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Deletion request

Can someone delete User talk:INeverCry/Editnotice? It still indicates that I'm an admin and is useless now. INeverCry 07:54, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Now that you're back…

MichaelMaggs's note when closing your de-adminship request said, among others, that should you find yourself able and willing to return, and to discuss the incident, we should be willing to listen. I am quite convinced that many people, especially those who voted to have your admin privileges removed, would be willing to understand what prompted you to indefinitely block two seemingly uninvolved users, @Fæ and @Stemoc, when it is clear that they have never been anyone's sockpuppets. Now that you're planning to return to active editing, and perhaps trying to start afresh, I think it's necessary that we have at least some sort of explanation of that incident so that we can move forward and leave this behind. odder (talk) 13:01, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

PS I've only seen this edit of yours just now, but perhaps you'll change your mind. odder (talk) 13:09, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

• Leave them be. They're de-adminned, nothing else is going to happen. There is nothing good to come of pushing this further. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:53, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
• INeverCry, I do realise your latest comment in this thread is supposed to be a joke, but I consider it of bad taste, especially considering what transpired not so long ago. It is a personal attack. I ask you to retract that comment. --Pitke (talk) 09:54, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I've removed the comment, which was meant as something of a joke, but jokes aren't what's needed at this point.

    I noticed a comment made here by @Fæ: also, which I want to address: My block of you was wrong and a very poor decision on my part. I regret it and I sincerely apologize for it. I regret that I allowed myself to take this whole situation with Russavia so far. I think it's better now that I'm not an admin, and won't be one again for several years, if ever. I have a tendency to act impulsively and erratically, where consistency and steadiness are needed, and I let stress and anger get the best of me. When this block ends, I'm going to return to image reviewing and clean-up work, and focus on being more relaxed and reasonable.

    As to @Odder: 's question, my block of Fae was more of an indirect attack on Russavia than anything else. My block of Stemoc was a response to this. As far as I know the whole thing between me and Stemoc centers on my [admittedly] bad/mistaken block of Popeye191 and my initial resistance to unblocking him. Now that I've been de-sysopped and I'm going to be focusing on license reviewing and general editing, I don't think our paths will cross much if at all in future. My block of Stemoc was wrong and immature as well, though that's only stating the obvious.

    I wish I could rewind the clock by a year or so and do things better, as I'm never happy with myself when I act irresponsibly and inappropriately, but I can only take each day as it comes and do my best to control myself and be more steady in future (if I don't, I'll deserve to be blocked again - it's as simple as that). I've probably said enough here for the time being, so I think I'll wait until my block has ended before editing again. INeverCry 21:16, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

    • @INeverCry: For what it's worth, I understood your comment as a joke, too, but had no plans to press you any further. So thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my questions in this very detailed way: I think your ability to recognise your mistakes and apologize for them speaks volumes here. I realize I am in quite an awkward position here, being the person who started your de-RfA, but on my part, I would have nothing against @Pitke unblocking you before the block is supposed to run its course: I think it could have a hugely positive symbolic value. odder (talk) 21:33, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

I just want to say thank you

Hi I.N.C. I dont know what is going on,but i hope it turns in a good way for you. 8 monds ago you changed my rights in autopatrol Iam not so good with internet(and English) but I try not the dissepoint you. Thanks for your trust in me. Ps if you send a message back it can happend that it takes 8 monds again for me to find it :-) Greetings from the Netherlands.Rob Hille — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎ Rob Hille (talk • contribs) 19:46, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Rob. Maybe I won't be blocked the next time you stop in... INeverCry 23:55, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Cornerstone_smalltown_boy.jpg

Heya, as I've seen, you've deleted my cover artwork, because of a missing permission. I've sent the permission meanwhile (it's pending), but I can't upload the fle again. How do I get my file back? Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morrissey1976 (talk • contribs) 07:08, August 6, 2015‎ (UTC)

Once the OTRS permission is confirmed, the file will be restored. INeverCry 07:48, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

A new game !!

Hiya INC: I made a diagram this morning you might find amusing, please see here. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:37, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

@Ellin Beltz: . I wonder if you can glean as many positive words from drama board "discussions"? INeverCry 17:13, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

@INeverCry: : Send me the link or a transcript and I'll do my best! My co-workers (at real work) thought it was hilarious too, and we made one for our job and taped it by the phone .... with the heading "if you're tempted to say ... don't". Curiously - or would that be predictably - the person at work who was the worst offender was offended by the posting of the image; but they're on thin ice anyway and their upset won't do them any good. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:23, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

@Ellin Beltz: Nah, the boards are all yours babe! I'm just an ordinary clock-puncher now. INeverCry 17:30, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't go to the IRC thing; it sounds like a cesspit. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:39, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

I was thinking more along the lines of AN-AN/U. I've never used IRC, though that's probably not surprising coming from someone who's never sent a text message or owned a cellphone either... INeverCry 17:48, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Oi-oi, some of us edits from our mobiles phone sometimes (mainly to avoid using work computers and the gaze of supervisory-type persons). By the way, you do know that "cell phone" is what they were called 25 years ago in the previous century and millennium!? Green Giant (talk) 18:23, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

What can I say? I still have fond memories of playing Intellivision... I do have an IPod Touch I can barely use if that counts for anything...

Can you point me...

Heya INC: Can you point me to that comparative administrator statistics page? I lost my Firefox profile in an update a couple weeks ago and it took all my bookmarks with it. Thanks!! Ellin Beltz (talk) 21:20, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Ellin, do you mean adminstats? It is linked from Commons:Administrators/De-adminship#Activity. Green Giant (talk) 21:12, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Green Giant !! Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:43, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

@Ellin Beltz: @Green Giant: This brought a chuckle... INeverCry 17:54, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Aye, it just shows how much of a nerd you really are. I'm glad you're chuckling though. Green Giant (talk) 18:16, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

INeverCry 18:21, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

File:Na Haeryung on 7 June 2015.jpg

Why the file is cc-by? free license not found on source webpage....--shizhao (talk) 02:32, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

The license is given at the bottom of the website/page. You'll see a little creative commons icon on the right. If you scroll over it with your mouse pointer, you'll see the display of the blog's license. This is how all the Korean pop-singer blogs display their licenses. INeverCry 05:18, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

• Note: -revi and I have reviewed thousands of images just like this over the past year or so. INeverCry 05:34, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

There is now a guide for people like Shizhao — User:-revi/Tistory. Welcome back, INC! — regards, Revi 13:16, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

hello & welcome back :)

i am not clear on what the hell really happened, & i disagree with the ban on russavia; in no small part due to the appalling lack of information, & the way "office" has completely overridden the community proces. the lack of transparency, explanation, & accountability is 'very' damaging to trust between the wfm & the community.

BUT i didn't want you banned either, & im glad you have returned.

...not to put to fine a point on it, but you made a HELL of a mess @ wikidata, with your last big round of editing, before you were gone.

if you haven't already, please could you go over there & sort it out? (i left you a "moderately scathing" message over there, before finding out that you'd been banned; please take it in the context of having been written without knowing anything about the situation, beyond the appearance of a large number of inexplicably bad edits @ wikidata, by a user who i would not expect such things from)

i'm sorry to be so blunt, but i dont really know you well enough to say anything else meaningful here. the welcome-back is sincerely meant.

Lx 121 (talk) 10:35, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm only seeing one edit over there in my contribs from the night of July 11th, which is when I went batshit over here. INeverCry 18:28, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

• I also took a look at User:CommonsDelinker's edits on July 11 on Wikidata, and I only see a couple good delinks caused by DRs I closed before the incident. INeverCry 18:47, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

i don't know what you are seeing on this end, but if you go on wikidata, & look @ you user contribs there, from the time just before your ban, you will see a crapload of commons items removed from their linkages @ wikidata, without any apparent valid reason. i traced a few of them, & it wasn't simply moves or consolidations; items were unlinked @ wikidata, leaving nothing. Lx 121 (talk) 14:35, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

I went there. If you're referring to the ones that start with "Page on [commonswiki] deleted", those edits were automatically done after deletions of empty categories and such here through CFD/CSD. INeverCry 19:54, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Question about deletion

Dear INeverCry, I have seen that you deleted the image of Bianca Penco (https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bianca_Penco). I don't understand why. CP — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlopenco (talk • contribs) 17:00, August 18, 2015‎ (UTC)

The reason for deletion can be seen at Commons:Deletion requests/Files of Carlopenco. INeverCry 18:07, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Russavia

Hello IneverCry, I just noticed that Russavia has been banned. Having he been an administrator it must be about something serious, what did he do? -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 15:30, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sergio. Russavia was banned by WMFOffice, so only the WMF could answer that question. INeverCry 19:58, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

And they won't say more than "harassment of other users". Don't bother asking, it's a matter of policy and confidentiality as mulled over many times at various discussions. Office bans are forever, so that says something. --Pitke (talk) 20:50, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Ok, now it's late night. Tomorrow I want to talk about some Russavia's subpages which we should decide what to do of. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 23:42, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

There is this category with all the subcategories. I suppose they were created with a specific goal, but now how are we supposed to manage them? -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 07:58, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
PS I've blanked and protected Russavia's talk page as it is infested by anonymous and socks.

I have deleted a small number of Russavia's personal subpages but didn't touch those that may need replacement in a different namespace. --Pitke (talk) 09:35, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Blackcat, there was a discussion about that, and the conclusion was that semi-protection should be sufficient, to allow posting DR messages. We can't block all vandalized pages, and I follow Russavia's talk page, so I am not sure it is necessary. My 0.02 Rs. Regards, Yann (talk) 09:38, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Ok Yann, I just did as precautionary measure, but if you say so, it's fine the way you do. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 10:00, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

• @Yann: @Blackcat: @Pitke: Category:Files uploaded by Russavia (delete) has been problematic since his ban. It's been pointed out that the files in this cat may be in scope, and that DRs would be the more appropriate venue. I deleted the cat once, but it was re-created by a Russavia sock. It should probably be emptied, deleted, and salted. INeverCry 00:50, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Generally agree with suggestion. AFAIR the files I've seen in that category have often been ineligible for a Speedy and placed there without an explanation, by likely socks. Such use serves no purpose other than possibly tricking new or unfamiliar admins into deleting files there, essentially handing socks a semi-automatic deletion tool. --Pitke (talk) 08:19, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

So what are we going to do? -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 09:33, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

@Blackcat: There's only a dozen or so files in it. It shouldn't be controversial to remove them, delete the category, and full-protect it. I deleted it once already after Russavia's ban. Russavia then asked me via email to restore it, which I declined to do. He then re-created it using a now locked sock. Another concern about files being in a deletion category like this is that people who want to use the files may be confused or stopped if/when they notice the category, possibly thinking the files will be deleted soon and seeing no point in using them because of it. INeverCry 20:52, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Please recall these words. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 21:50, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

@Fæ: This topic was brought here to my talk by Blackcat. Also, it was you who first pointed out the issues with the Russavia deletion category when I deleted 40 images from it and subsequently restored them after considering your concerns, which were quite valid. I redacted the unblock request you link, but I still don't plan on seeking out or creating any further Russavia-related drama. If something about him is posted here on my talk, I feel it's appropriate to engage in constructive discussion. INeverCry 22:03, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

It would be most constructive if requests for action about any WMF locked accounts or disruptive sockpuppet abuse were on AN/U. There is no doubt participants here would respect your preferences, if you wish to steer clear of Russavia related debates in the future. There is no benefit for anyone to trawl through past problems and analysing related allegations, whether true or not, on your user talk page.

I hope you can take this as a simple observation intended to learn from recent past problems and your previous wishes to start afresh.

If you would like to focus on some rather enjoyable 18th/19th-century content, I have started uploading delightful scans from the Biodiversity Heritage Library, which should increase our collection a few times over and which require a lot of organization with creator templates and so forth. Have a browse, it's why we are really here. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 22:24, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

I've noticed those uploads (they're quite to my taste), and done some rotation requests and a handful of license reviews on a series of botany pages that the review bot skipped. I wish we had a bot that would focus only on the images with reversed dimensions that the review bot skips. Kind of a complementary Flickr review bot junior.

Also, in the interest of avoiding any possible problems, I'll refrain from making any further Russavia-related suggestions or comments in this thread (or anywhere else). INeverCry 22:44, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

AWB task request

If you are using AWB here, could you please attend this request: en:Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks#AWB_task_request_on_Wikimedia_Commons? Thanks in advance.
I tried using Batch task performer too, but I am doing some mistake there. --Tito☸Dutta 07:02, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

 Done INeverCry 00:19, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

The end.

I've retired before and come back, but this time I'm going to scramble my password and be done with it. I've enjoyed a lot of my time here, but that's gone away more and more as the months and years have passed. Now, after the desysop, I tried to continue, but I just ain't feelin it no more. Take care. INeverCry 07:21, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

oh ... why? -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 07:40, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Take care of your health and don't hesitate to return if your editing fingers get itchy. :) Green Giant (talk) 09:37, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

As Green Giant - take care --Herby ^{talk thyme} 10:42, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Trying to recapture the feelings of the good, old days isn't easy. Things happen. Things change. Your view of others and your surroundings changes. Then there's recurring issues that refuse to give you a moment of peace. I'm sorry that participating at Commons isn't a happy experience anymore. Consider your health, your friends, and your family. Take care. I'm sure that you can find happiness in new things or in things that you alright have. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 12:16, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Take care. Jianhui67 ^{talk★contribs} 12:35, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I read your case. Hope so you will come back some day. It seems that you felt bad after desysoping, but there is positive thing for not being admin is that we get little bit freedom while editing, otherwise admin has to behave somewhat ideal. It is not good to get retired permanently. Wikipedia/Commons is really very nice media to spread knowledge or information to millions of people in the world. We can increase coverage about topics related our nation, city, profession, hobbies etc. One can edit whenever he/she gets some time, it is not compulsory to edit daily, not even weekly. One can edit once monthly too and can update about favorite things. But leaving this nice place permanently like this way really very hurtning thing. Anyway, Take care.--Human3015 (talk) 12:24, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

File:Soviet Poster 3.jpg

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Alex Spade (talk) 08:11, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

File:Soviet Poster 3.jpg

File:Soviet Poster 3.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

-- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 13:21, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

File:Семён-день в Красном 2014 85.JPG

Hello!

I hope things are going well on your side.

Can you please let me know what's needed to restore the following files from the following discussion: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80

• File:Семён-день в Красном 2014 79.JPG
• File:Семён-день в Красном 2014 80.JPG
• File:Семён-день в Красном 2014 81.JPG
• File:Семён-день в Красном 2014 82.JPG
• File:Семён-день в Красном 2014 83.JPG
• File:Семён-день в Красном 2014 84.JPG
• File:Семён-день в Красном 2014 85.JPG

I have received the permission via OTRS, but the files are already deleted. Is it possible to restore them w/o submitting a formal request? I will add the OTRS Permission template there for sure. --D.bratchuk (talk) 07:29, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

@D.bratchuk: Hi,

INeverCry doesn't seem to be active. Could you ask on COM:UDR with the ticket number? Regards, Yann (talk) 08:30, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. --D.bratchuk (talk) 09:48, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

File:Soviet Poster 3.jpg

File:Soviet Poster 3.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Πρώτη Σερρών (talk) 12:27, 30 September 2015 (UTC)