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File:Armorial Bearings of British Airways.svg

I believe use Fondamento font for motto would be better match, and this font is released under free license, so if you can rework the motto with this font, that would be a nice choice.

Also see:

• https://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=37699
• http://blog.appletonstudios.com/2011/11/everything-old-is-new-again.html

-- Great Brightstar (talk) 20:27, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Great suggestion, will implement, thanks.

-B Ben1we (talk) 10:33, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

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Coat of arms of St John Desmond Arcedeckne-Butler (to be amended)

Hello Ben1we

The Circlet of the Order of the British Empire

of which a better example can be seen on Lord Grey of Codnor's article:

should be added to your excellent illustration of the Arcedeckne-Butler arms.

RSVP whether you can correct the arms of Major-General St John Desmond Arcedeckne-Butler CBE [1], which otherwise ought to be properly described as the Arcedeckne-Butler arms.

Many thanks.

Best Primm1234 (talk) 02:24, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi Primm,

For now I shall leave the file as is, without the Order of the British Empire circlet, so that the file more generically displays the Arcedeckne-Butler coat of arms, rather than those specific to St John Desmond. I believe this is more useful. Do let me know your thoughts.

Ben Ben1we (talk) 17:56, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Sir Paul McCartney - correcting his arms

Hello Ben1we

Good efforts to solve the tincturing of Sir Paul McCartney's crest as too no doubt worth correcting his helm to be that of a Knight affronté:

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Merci infiniment & RSVP!

Primm1234 (talk) 16:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Primm, I think we've talked about this before, I appreciate your input, and let me lay out my thoughts. I understand that the Open Visored helmet is usually pictured "Affronte" like you say, or placed "full faced" as others describe, but please refer here... https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page%3AA_Complete_Guide_to_Heraldry.djvu/361

"Within these limits considerable latitude is allowed, and even in official grants of arms, which, as far as emblazonment goes, are very much of a stereotyped style, actual unvarying adherence to a particular pattern is not insisted upon."

...where the lack of adherence to these rules is described. The next page further elaborates (https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page%3AA_Complete_Guide_to_Heraldry.djvu/362) and gives some reasoning for this in the artistic sense, relating to how the contens of the crest are drawn, and how this relates to the direction the helmet might point.

Finally, McCartney's Arms were granted four years (2001) after he was made a Knight of the realm (1997), and the helmet in the emblazoning published by the College of Arms is drawn in this style - open visor, facing to the left (https://www.theheraldrysociety.com/articles/sir-paul-mccartney/). The College of Arms has this to say about it McCartney's arms when the grant was made public: "The helmet is left-facing and has an open visor as is customary for knights".

Let me know your thoughts, but as with this emblazonment, and with the Baronet's emblazonment upon which I created the original left facing open visor helmet asset, it seems the Affronte / Full-faced portion is becoming more relaxed, with artisitic believability becoming as much of a consideration as tradtion.

Further still, I'd prefer to keep the left facing asset as I believe it is of better quality than the one you've suggested.

Best wishes,

B Ben1we (talk) 17:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

@Ben1we - I totally agree & best leave as is. As we discussed elsewhere stylistic fashions in heraldry continue to evolve, so as long as the illustration adheres to the blazon in the grant of arms (which it does), then it's absolutely fine!

Many thanks. Best ~~~~ Primm1234 (talk) 14:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Primm1234 (talk) 02:49, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi Primm, please find my response on the talk page for the file in question.

Best,

Ben Ben1we (talk) 17:55, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

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廣九直通車 (talk) 10:54, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Arms of Alderman Sir William Russell as Master Haberdasher

@Ben1we - could I trouble you to cast your expert eye over the following arms which have very kindly been created for Alderman Sir William Russell as Master Haberdasher?

Perhaps some minor tweaks would be appropriate, namely, to the the tincturing? The Haberdashers' Co., traditionally displays its arms with Azure mantling whilst the Russell family have used Sable mantling in the past (altho since mantling should correspond with the main heraldic charge, it should be Gules in this case).

If the mantling could be Azure dexter & Gules sinister and ideally doubled Silver, the White enamel Maltese Cross behind Shield will stand out more... Also could you make the inside of the Knight's helm Gules with Sable lattice?

Master Currier Adamson's arms, above, should hopefully provide some pointers...

Is it a difficult job to make such changes?

Best Primm1234 (talk) 15:24, 6 November 2024 (UTC) Primm1234 (talk) 15:21, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

@Ben1we - good liaising elsewhere & just wondering what you think about this? Best ~~~~ Primm1234 (talk) 18:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Primm, MostEpic (talk · contribs) is a well respected vector artist within the Wikipedia heraldry community, so I would contact him regarding the above changes (since he originally produced this emblazonment), as I wouldn't want to make changes to his work. Besides, when it comes to modern arms that aren't of historic interest, I don't usually undertake these without personal motivation :) Ben1we (talk) 19:01, 11 November 2024 (UTC)