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Thank you very much! :-) --Darev (talk) 19:38, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Kulturdenkmäler in Münnerstadt ...

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Hallo Darev,

ich habe gesehen, dass Du die Kategorie umstrukturiert hast ..... deswegen habe ich ein bisschen Hoffnung: Hast Du irgendwelche Informationen über diesen Münnerstadt-1333.jpg Bildstock? Der Bayerviewer hat leider recht viele Lücken im Außenbereich.

Gruß vom nieseligen Bodensee --Dietrich Krieger (talk) 17:24, 5 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Leider habe ich keine Informationen über diesen Bildstock. Die ausführlichsten Quellen habe ich über Bad Kisingen, da Bad Kissingen meinen Interessen- und Arbeitsschwerpunkt bildet. Ich habe den Dehio-Band für Franken zur Verfügung, der Informationen über Münnerstadt, aber keine konkreten Informationen zu den dortigen Bildstöcken enthält. Wenn es von Chevalley so einen Band wie für Bad Kissingen (ISBN: 3874905772) auch für Münnerstadt gäbe, würde ich Dir diesen empfehlen, doch gibt es einen solchen Chevalley-Band für Münnerstadt meines Wissens leider nicht.
Eine Möglichkeit, die mir im Moment noch einfällt, wären die Bände, die Josef Wabra über die hiesigen Flurdenkmäler geschrieben hat, doch habe ich diese Bücher nicht zur Verfügung, und ich weiß leider nicht, wann ich die Gelegenheit habe, dort in der örtlichen Stadtbücherei nachzulesen. Ich hoffe, trotzdem geholfen zu haben. Gruß, --Darev (talk) 20:22, 5 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Ergänzung: Einen eigenen Chevalley-Band für Münnerstadt gibt es zwar nicht, aber einen für Unterfranken (ISBN 3-486-52397-X.). Vielelicht findet sich dort was über den BIldstock. Gruß, --Darev (talk) 20:54, 5 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Vielen Dank für Deine Bemühungen! Ich warte erstmal ab, für einen Bildstock lohnen sich Anschaffungen nicht, da ich sehr selten in meiner alten Heimat Unterfranken, und noch seltener in Münnerstadt bin. Ich werde ab & zu Googles Bildersuche bemühen, das hat mir auch schon weitergeholfen. Danke nochmal und Gruß vom See --Dietrich Krieger (talk) 18:24, 7 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Nachtrag: Was findet man doch alles im Netz ... http://www.bildstockzentrum.de/ ein fränkisches Bildstockzentrum. Das werde ich mir diese Tage mal genauer ansehen. Vielleicht interessiert es Dich ja auch. Gruß --Dietrich Krieger (talk) 18:43, 7 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Na, das ist ja schon mal was. Bad Kissingen scheint leider nicht dabei zu sein, aber einiges aus der Nähe. Vielen Dank für den Link. Gruß, --Darev (talk) 19:12, 7 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Bad Kissingen: Frühlingstraße versus Frühlingsstraße

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Hallo Darev, de:Liste der Baudenkmäler in Bad Kissingen listet diese Straße 9-mal mit 1 s als Frühlingstraße und 5-mal mit 2 s als Frühlingsstraße und in de:Vorlage:TOC/Baudenkmäler in Bad Kissingen steht sie mit 2 s, in de:Liste bekannter Kurgäste in Bad Kissingen mit 1 s. Die Hauptkategorie hier heißt Category:Ensemble Frühlingsstraße/Von-der-Tann-Straße mit 2 s, weshalb ich eben diese Datei dorthin verschoben hatte. Ich bin allerdings nun am Überlegen, ob nicht der Kategoriename falsch ist und nicht der Dateiname. 4 Unterkategorien heißen alle Frühlingstraße mit 1 s. Diese Seite von staedte-info.net führt sie auch als Frühlingstraße. Gibt es eine offizielle Quelle oder was meinst du, was richtig ist? Dann müsste da auch noch was verschoben werden, ich nehme jetzt an in Richtung Frühlingstraße. Beide Schreibweisen kommen aber recht oft vor, deshalb sollte erst mal klar sein, was nun stimmt. Ich habe jetzt noch mal nach Stadtplänen gesucht. Meinestadt.de: Frühlingstr., Ist Frühlingstraße also richtig? Grüße --Bjarlin (talk) 16:41, 26 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

In Category:Frühlingstraße 5 (Bad Kissingen) sind 5 Dateien mit 2 s und 2 mit 1 s. Da wäre auch noch was zu verschieben und auf den Dateiseiten steht es jeweils genauso. Bis auf die oben genannte Datei sind ansonsten alle mit nur 1 s. --Bjarlin (talk) 16:49, 26 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Leider finden sich auf dem offiziellen PDF beide Schreibweisen (beim Ensemble mit zwei "s" und bei der Beschreibung der einzelnen Adressen mit einem "s").
Ich habe den Denis Chevalley für Bad Kissingen als Buch vorliegen, und dort wird in beiden Fällen "Frühlingstraße" mit einem "s" geschrieben.
Mein Bad Kissingen-Stadtplan von Falk führt die "Frühlingstraße" auch mit einem "s".
Wenn man mich spontan gefragt hätte (ohne Möglichkeit, Quellen hinzuzuziehen), hätte ich "Frühlingstraße" höchstwahrscheinlich mit einem "s" geschrieben.
Was meinst Du? Wie verfahren wir?
Gruß, --Darev (talk) 17:10, 26 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
Dann kommt der Fehler also daher, wenn es dort auch so geschrieben wird wie die Katnamen hier. Da in der PDF-Datei das Mietshaus Frühling(s)straße 5 unterschiedlich geschrieben wird, ist in der PDF-Datei ja auf jeden Fall etwas falsch. Man sollte das Bayerische Landesamt für Denkmalpflege mal auf ihren Fehler dort aufmerksam machen, dann können sie ihn auch korrigieren. Wenn sonst überall die Straße offiziell mit einem s geschrieben wird, dann scheint die Schreibweise wohl richtig zu sein. Also müssten dann die Dateien und auch die Kategorie verschoben werden. Ich schlage vor, es so zu machen. Dann würde ich die Dateien mit Doppel-s gleich mal verschieben. --Bjarlin (talk) 17:42, 26 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Das Problem ist leider auch nicht auf Bad Kissingen beschränkt. Es gibt hier 2 andere Frühlingstraßen mit 1 s, in de:Frühlingstraße (Garmisch-Partenkirchen) wird jene Straße jeweils 3-mal mit 1 oder 2 s geschrieben und das dort eingebundene Bild hatte im Namen wieder 2 s: File:Frühlingstraße (Garmisch-Partenkirchen) 1.jpg, jetzt verschoben, selbst auf der Dateibeschreibungsseite stand der Name mit 1 s. Offenbar gibt es noch mehr zu verschieben. In de:Liste der Baudenkmäler in Garmisch-Partenkirchen steht immer Frühlingstraße, aber die eingebundenen Dateien schreiben die Straße alle mit Doppel-s, das kann so nicht stimmen. Die 9 relevanten Unterkategorien von Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Garmisch-Partenkirchen haben aber alle Frühlingstraße im Namen. Das müsste auch noch mal offiziell nachgesehen werden, bevor alle anderen Dateien auch noch verschoben werden.

Ob das in anderen Orten (Kempten, usw.) auch so ein Durcheinander ist? Es gibt noch diverse andere Kategorien hier zu Frühling(s)straßen in anderen Orten, 16 mit einem s und 3 mit zwei s: je eine in Neumarkt in der Oberpfalz (beide Dateien auch mit Doppel-s) und Straubing. Die mit einem s betreffen ansonsten meistens Garmisch-Partenkirchen mit den Unterkats, Berlin-Niederschönhausen (hier beide Dateien mit einem s) und Kempten (hier werden beide Dateien unterschiedlich geschrieben, also auch eine falsch). Ich vermute, da sind eine Reihe von Fehlern in Dateinamen, vielleicht auch in Katnamen. Wenn du bezüglich der Orte offizielle Quellen findest, kann das auch noch angepasst werden. Vielleicht finden sich dazu auch noch Stadtpläne usw. --Bjarlin (talk) 17:42, 26 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Ich habe mal die entsprechenden Bad Kissinger "Frühlingstraße"-Dateien bzw. -Kategorien verschoben. Bei den anderen Orten, die Du erwähnst, kann ich evtl. mal einen Blick drauf werfen. Ich kann da aber nicht zuviel versprechen, da ich da nicht mit Literatur bzw. Stadtplänen ausgestattet bin wie im Fall von Bad Kissingen mit dem Chevalley, Falk-Stadtplan usw. Mal schauen, wie es weitergeht. Vielen Dank und Gruß, --Darev (talk) 06:09, 27 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

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