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EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:10, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- Hi. Sorry for 8 years delay in reply. This file (several lines of a satirical poem) is not my work. But it was published in 1910 in the Polish satirical weekly "Mucha" and therefore it is not copyrighted and was not copyrighted 8 years ago (all material before 1924 is on public domain and the first Polish copyright law was published in 1926) The link to this poem is here
- https://polona2.pl/item/mucha-szkice-satyryczno-humorystyczne-zebrane-przez-f-kostrzewskiego-i-h-pillatego,ODA1NzA3Mw/1/#info:metadata
- The name I gave to this file "flatau_michal_mucha1910paz28.png indicated that it was published in 1910 on 28 of October,
- You can see that it is designated as being on Public Domain by the Polish National Library "Polona" (you can see this by observing crossed PD sign on the right in the link I provided). I still have this file on my computer and can resubmit it, but meanwhile I realized that I do not need to use it in my Wikipedia article and probably this was the reason that I did not reply sooner. Thanks. Puncinus (talk) 06:26, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Responding thus to COM:VRT is likely to allow this to be restored. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 08:13, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:11, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- Hi. Sorry for the late reply. As I indicated in 2016 I downloaded better version of this file on August 24, 2016. This file is still being used on Wikipedia. It is named
- 500mb_geopotential_height_wavenumber_4_Rossby_wave_(planetary_waves)_pattern._October_9-21,_2010_daily_average.jpg
- It is marked as my own work. They way I created it was by generating graphics using US Government server which uses public domain meteorological reanalysis data of NOAA. Therefore it is not copyrighted. Puncinus (talk) 06:42, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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Sealle (talk) 13:59, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry for late reply. This file was in my family and I mentioned about it in the discussion. However, in retrospective I can state that it is not copyrighted because it is in the public domain because according to the Art. 3 of copyright law of March 29, 1926 of the Republic of Poland and Art. 2 of copyright law of July 10, 1952 of the People's Republic of Poland, all photographs by Polish photographers (or published for the first time in Poland or simultaneously in Poland and abroad) published without a clear copyright notice before the law was changed on May 23, 1994 are assumed to be in the public domain in Poland. See template PD-Poland. Thanks. Puncinus (talk) 06:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 21:29, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is a first page of a publication written by Piotr Lenartowicz, a Jesuit priest. I will ask his Catholic Jesuit Order in Cracow to give permission. Puncinus (talk) 23:07, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- I just wrote an email to Cracow Ignatanium where Lenartowicz was a professor. However, in this 1970 publication - which is a dictionary of shanties (sailing songs) he doesn't list himself as an author, rather it is his "opracowanie" (he is an editor). The songs themselves were not his (hence he is an editor) and were most probably on public domain. He also list his mother (K. Lenartowicz) and 2 other people as his collaborators. So, even if I get permission from Jesuits in Cracow I do not know how to contact his collaborators. Puncinus (talk) 23:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- You need to challenge this by using the button on the file page. And you need to send details to COM:VRT. This is the same for the files below. Challenging migrates this to a full deletion discussion and allows you to put your arguments forward. Sending details to COM:VRT proves that you have the right to upload them here.
- Writing it here will not be seen by the admins here. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 07:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 21:30, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is a note I got from Piotr Lenartowicz myself. He died in 2012. He was a catholic priest. I will ask his order in Cracow if they are copyright owners. Puncinus (talk) Puncinus (talk) 22:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- I wrote to the Jesuit Order Southern Province to get permission. But I re-read deletion language above and I did not find this file on the web, it is a note which I own. Puncinus (talk) 06:58, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- As a sidenote, I own many things which are the copyright of others. I may not upload those here. I may only upload those which I am allowed, formally, to upload. Even then, if I am challenged, I must provide justification via COM:VRT.
- I'm grateful that you understand this issue. Thank you. It is a two way protection. It protects Commons and it protects the items where the copyright is owned by another. We all need to be diligent about protecting Commons and copyright owners in this manner. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 08:04, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've just realised that this is ambiguous. My apologies for bombarding you talk page. I do not mean "Upload freely unless and until challenged"! What I mean is that "now that you have been challenged please provide the relevant authority to VRT, and do not upload further without that authority."
- I think it is important that you look at your uploads already here with care, with a view to providing permissions, formal permissions, where needed, rather than awaiting a challenge. I hope you agree that a little hard work now will prevent annoyance in the future shoudkl you receive further challenges. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 08:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I just received an email from Greater Mazovia Jesuit Privince of Poland a (they have copyright to Piotr Lenartowicz works) that all notes written by Piotr Lenartowicz to me belong to me and I have full right to publish them. Here is the email:
- On Sunday, August 25, 2024, Curia PMA <curiapma@jezuici.pl> wrote:
- Szanowny Panie Profesorze,
- wszelkie listy, czy notatki skierowane przez o. Piotra do Pana, są własnością adresata, a my, jako Prowincja Wielkopolsko-Mazowiecka Towarzystwa Jezusowego nie mamy żadnych zastrzeżeń do ich publikowania. Bardzo dziękuję za zajęcie się umieszczeniem informacji o ojcu Piotrze na Wikipedii. W najbliższych dniach przejrzę je dokładnie i ewentualnie odezwę się.
- Z poważaniem,
- Wojciech Żmudziński SJ
- I translated it to English:
- On Sunday, August 25, 2024, Curia PMA <curiapma@jezuici.pl> wrote:
- Dear Professor,
- Any letters or notes sent by Father Piotr to you are the property of the recipient, and we, as the Greater Poland-Mazovia Province of the Society of Jesus, have no objections to their publication. Thank you very much for taking care of placing information about Father Piotr on Wikipedia. I will review it thoroughly in the coming days and may contact you.
- Sincerely,
- Wojciech Żmudziński SJ Puncinus (talk) 06:21, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Timtret. Regarding your comment about my other submissions. I have been submitting to Commons following, according to my best knowledge, the copyright rules. Sometimes I am puzzled by these chalenges because Polish laws are different. The most difficult case for me was 1943 picture of Szpital Starozakonnych becuse it was on public domain in the US and not in Germany. In any case, I hope to resolve your recent challenges. Puncinus (talk) 06:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Puncinus I wish you total success. I understand the confusion of working across many jurisdictions. My only objective a dual one:
- Protection of Wikimedia Commons from external challenges
- Protection of the copyright owner
- We are fortunate that Commons has a great deal of expertise among its administrators. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 12:49, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have now read the letter. I had not when I made my previous reply. As a matter of importance, please use COM:VRT to send it to the Volunteer Response Team, who will take the correct action. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 12:52, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Puncinus I wish you total success. I understand the confusion of working across many jurisdictions. My only objective a dual one:
- Hi Timtret. Regarding your comment about my other submissions. I have been submitting to Commons following, according to my best knowledge, the copyright rules. Sometimes I am puzzled by these chalenges because Polish laws are different. The most difficult case for me was 1943 picture of Szpital Starozakonnych becuse it was on public domain in the US and not in Germany. In any case, I hope to resolve your recent challenges. Puncinus (talk) 06:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I wrote to the Jesuit Order Southern Province to get permission. But I re-read deletion language above and I did not find this file on the web, it is a note which I own. Puncinus (talk) 06:58, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 21:33, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- I got this document in 2018 myself. I wrote email to Towarzystwo Lekarskie Warszawskie. I will let you know when I get a reply. Puncinus (talk) 22:52, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Timtret. I do not know where I should respond to your request for deletion of this. But I did some search of Polish copyright law. This document, together with the medal, was given to me in 2018 in recognition of achivements of my grandfather Edward Flatau. Such documents seems to be exempted from copyright because according to paragraph 4 of the Polish cooyright law that https://legalnakultura.pl/pl/prawo-w-kulturze/prawo-w-praktyce/news/3388,czego-nie-chroni-prawo-autorskie#gsc.tab=0 which states that excluded from copyright protection are:
- legislative acts or their official drafts
- official documents, materials, signs, and symbols
- published patent or protection descriptions
- simple press information
- My understanding is that as this is an official document it is excluded from copyright in Poland and everywhere else. Only translation of this document is copyrighted. Anyway, I did write to official institution (Towarzystwo Lekarskie Warszawskie). that granted to me this document. Puncinus (talk) 06:05, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- You responded correctly by challenging the process, which starts a full deletion request. I have offered an opinion at that discussion. I believe you should enter as part of your rationale at least the paragraph starting My understanding is that as this is an official document... to seek to ensure that your understanding of the situation is fully noted by the independent administrator who will, in due time, close the discussion 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 12:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
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- I replied to the recent challenges using reply button the same way as I am doing now to you. I own these files (note from P. Lenartowicz which was written to me) and Medal Brodowskiego i Paszkiewicza. I asked via email Jusuits Order in Poland and Towarzystwo Warszawskie Lekarskie for permissions. Puncinus (talk) 14:19, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Please respond either at the full deletion discussion, if there is one, or by challenging any speedy deletion process on the page of the file itself (where there is a big grey button to press, close to the notice of speedy deletion).
- Only using your own talk page is useless; it does not form part of any discussion. Any formal challenge must be made either by the challenge button or by offering an opinion in the full discussion.
- Ownership of an item does not mean you own the copyright. I own a Harry Potter book. The copyright is owned by the author.
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- @Yann: please will you clarify this if you feel I have been unclear, or incorrect, or if you have more to add. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 15:59, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
"Own work"
editYou seem to have a missunderstanding of when "own work" is sufficient for an image to be acceptable on commons.
There's a distinction between the image itself and the subject of an image. If you made the image yourself then you can claim "own work" of said image. If the subject of the image is something artistic (e.g. a statue, a painting, etc.) then you also need permission to use that. That is called a derivative Work. To upload such an image, you therefore additionally need permission to use an image of said subject, except if that object is free for some other reason. One such reason is that the object is out of copyright. This is certainly true for Roman statues, because their creator has certainly died more than 70 years ago. Thus your images of a Roman Statue are fine to upload, because they're a derived work of something that is no longer under copyright.
I know this is quite confusing, but please ask if you need further assistance. PaterMcFly (talk) 13:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with you. However, I am aware of copyright issues, and I have been uploading images that I assumed are not copyrighted (either because it was a Roman Statue, or because they were mosaics on public buildings (freedom of panorama), or because I asked verbally an artist for permission). But it seems that I should not have used "my own" work. Therefore, today I went over all puncinus files and requested that most of them are deleted, including Roman Statues as, in this particular case, I do not know if perhaps LACMA museums may claim copyright. Thanks. Puncinus (talk) 16:55, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would like to thank you for your diligence in doing something that must have caused you pain and annoyance, and been distasteful to you.
- For what my opinion is worth, I am going quietly through your DRs, suggesting deletion of some, retention of others, and commenting on those where I am also unclear. There is a silver lining. Any file of yours that is deleted may have that deletion overturns if proofs of the right to upload are sent to COM:VRT, even if some time has elapsed 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 17:21, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am encouraged, as you should be, by the verdict with Esther Bruton and Victor. That means that this process, arduous as it has been, will have been well worthwhile. Thank you once again. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 16:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I looked just now at they deletion process for that file - the person who nominated it for deletion decided that it should not be deleted. I do not think that by looking at a picture you can deduce that its copyright was or not extended. The reason I gave why this picture is not copyrighted is that it was done using Work Progress Administration money. It was US project to help artists during the recession of 1930'. Such projects supported by US tax money are not copyrighted. Puncinus (talk) 16:48, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- It would be worth your having that conversation with them. I am not 100% sure they are correct, but I am deferring to their better expertise than mine. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 17:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I looked just now at they deletion process for that file - the person who nominated it for deletion decided that it should not be deleted. I do not think that by looking at a picture you can deduce that its copyright was or not extended. The reason I gave why this picture is not copyrighted is that it was done using Work Progress Administration money. It was US project to help artists during the recession of 1930'. Such projects supported by US tax money are not copyrighted. Puncinus (talk) 16:48, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am encouraged, as you should be, by the verdict with Esther Bruton and Victor. That means that this process, arduous as it has been, will have been well worthwhile. Thank you once again. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 16:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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