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Hi Odder,

Is there anything like User:AlexNewArtBot here on commons where I can follow and watch those new uploaded images I want? Jaqeli (talk) 11:48, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: OgreBot does exactly that; see User:OgreBot/gallery for tips on how to configure it to output files that you are interested in. odder (talk) 12:09, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
I couldn't really understand what should I do to watchlist them. For example if I want to get new picture updates from Category:History of Georgia what exactly should I do? Jaqeli (talk) 12:44, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: See this edit I made for you. Now you'd need to add User:Jaqeli/Georgia to your watchlist, and OgreBot will update this page every day with new images uploaded under the category tree for Category:History of Georgia. You might want to tweak the settings a bit; see the top of that page for exact instructions, and have a look at the source code to see how other people did that for categorieis they are interested in. odder (talk) 12:56, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
And what should I do with that red link? Should I create that page? And how do I add all other categories I am interested in? Jaqeli (talk) 13:05, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: Just have a look at the instructions and how other people did that, please. That's the way I learnt it, too. odder (talk) 13:13, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
I cannot edit that page. I want instead of that category there to be changed with Category:Tbilisi and Georgia. Jaqeli (talk) 13:36, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: I fixed it for you this time, but please request any changes on the talk page in the future. Thanks. odder (talk) 13:53, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. As I understand that red link will automatically be changed after the images will be added? Jaqeli (talk) 14:07, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: The bot will create the page, yes. odder (talk) 14:22, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. Jaqeli (talk) 14:25, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi odder, that page was updated with new images but it is very strange that none of those pictures have any connection with Tbilisi or Georgia and can you please if you know what is wrong with it? Jaqeli (talk) 19:31, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Just follow the category tree. All those files are in categories which are subcategories to Category:Georgia or Category:Tbilisi. odder (talk) 19:44, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
None of those pictures even match to those categories or subcategories. For example, what does this have to do with Georgia or Tbilisi or its subcategories? Jaqeli (talk) 20:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
I have no time to troubleshoot this for your at this time, but I'm quite convinced Magog the Ogre would be able to dig up some logs to explain how that file got onto your page. odder (talk) 20:54, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Category:Georgia => Category:History of Georgia => Category:Colchis => Category:Golden Fleece => Category:Order of the Golden Fleece => Category:Knights of the Golden Fleece => Category:Knights of the Golden Fleece (19th century) => Category:Wilhelm I of Germany => Category:Things named after William I, German Emperor => Category:Churches named after William I, German Emperor => Category:Kaiser-Wilhelm-Gedächtniskirche => File:Berlin-Charlottenburg, the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church .JPG. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 20:58, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Wow! Does it go that deep? May I ask to add some other categories than? Jaqeli (talk) 21:46, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: Yes; please go to the talk page so Magog can directly implement your wishes :-) odder (talk) 21:54, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi odder, do you know by chance in what time would my gallery page get archived? It will get more and more hard to load a page with that amount of images and maybe you know how to make it archived automatically? Jaqeli (talk) 05:19, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: It won't get archived unless you set DAYS_PER_GALLERY (currently I set NO_SUBPAGE for you). It's all mentioned in the instructions at the top of User:OgreBot/gallery. odder (talk) 08:25, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Can you please set the automatic archive on 7 days? Jaqeli (talk) 11:14, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: I just set DAYS_PER_GALLERY to 7. odder (talk) 11:38, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Odder. Jaqeli (talk) 11:55, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi odder, my page was archived well but do you know by chance why it wasn't updated with the pictures of 8th march? Today is 9th but no updates from 8th march there. Jaqeli (talk) 09:53, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

@Magog the Ogre Maybe you could help or know why my page was not updated today? Jaqeli (talk) 18:49, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: No, I don't know. odder (talk) 10:07, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
No updates even for today. There's definitely something wrong. Can you please odder help? Jaqeli (talk) 06:49, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: I am sorry, but I don't know why the bot stopped updating your page. Pinging @Magog the Ogre again so he can have a look at it. odder (talk) 08:24, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: - please place your questions at User talk:OgreBot/gallery, as odder has already requested you do. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:17, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Images appearing on the English Wikipedia's main pageEdit

I just unprotected the file. I hope you're fine with it, @David Levy. odder (talk) 12:42, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Please elaborate on your summary — "no need for protection". (I need to ensure that a misunderstanding hasn't occurred.) Thanks! —David Levy 21:37, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
@David Levy: Sure! There was no need to protect the file, as it was already protected by the means of being included in a page with cascade protection set to be active. odder (talk) 22:23, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
To clarify, which page do you mean? Thanks again! —David Levy 01:46, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
@David Levy: Commons:Auto-protected files/wikipedia/en. odder (talk) 08:29, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
I was hoping that was what you meant. (Thanks very much for confirming it.) I asked because some administrators (primarily at the English Wikipedia) have mistakenly assumed that the cascading protection of en:Main Page extends to Commons images.
For that reason (among others, including simple forgetfulness), unprotected images keep turning up on that page, particularly in the In the news section (the only one in which images are routinely transcluded with little or no advance planning and for no predetermined duration). Sometimes, vandals notice and replace the Commons files with arbitrary imagery (such as pornography).
This is why Commons:Auto-protected files/wikipedia/en was created — for instances in which admins fail to either upload a local copy or ensure that the image is protected at Commons. As a fallback, it's helpful, but it isn't perfect. The page is populated by KrinkleBot, which can take anywhere from minutes to hours (and sometimes fails entirely).
Last month, a Wikipedia administrator transcluded the unprotected file Philip Seymour Hoffman 2011.jpg. KrinkleBot took about 12.5 hours to add it to Commons:Auto-protected files/wikipedia/en. Fortunately, I caught the problem after about an hour and protected the image at Commons before vandals got to it.
But then Russavia unprotected the file, noting only that "indefinite protection is way too long". Thankfully, the cascading protection had taken effect less than an hour earlier, and I'm trying to determine whether Russavia was aware of that (or mistakenly believed that the English Wikipedia's cascading protection was sufficient).
As I explained to Russavia last month, when I protect such an image, I routinely return to unprotect it shortly after it leaves the English Wikipedia's main page. When KrinkleBot functions properly, the file is cascade-protected at Commons anyway, so little or no additional protection occurs. (In many cases, I unprotect the images before KrinkleBot updates the list to remove the cascading protection.)
When I manually protected File:Vladimir Putin 12015.jpg, the cascading protection did not yet exist. As I noted above, I'm glad that you observed it before terminating the manual protection. This approach generally causes no harm, but it does have a potential detriment: From time to time, an image in the English Wikipedia's In the news section is removed and restored a short time later (typically when a newly added blurb is pulled due to problems). In some instances, KrinkleBot performs an update during the brief gap in the image's appearance (resulting in its removal from Commons:Auto-protected files/wikipedia/en). So when an admin (who typically assumes that the image is still protected) performs the reversion, the image returns to the main page without the cascading protection in place (and it might be many hours before it takes effect again). If the image is manually protected, this isn't an issue.
My apologies for typing such a long message. Thanks again! —David Levy 10:16, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
I mentioned above that the problem arises most often at the In the news section, but it just occurred at the From today's featured article section (where an admin decided to switch from an image's uncropped version to its cropped version, thereby inserting File:Jimi Hendrix thumbnail.jpg without protection). So I've protected the file at Commons (but because it's guaranteed to leave the main page at the end of the day, I've set the protection to expire then).
Incidentally, I always remind these administrators to upload local copies of images before transcluding them on the main page. This rarely seems to help much, as many of the admins forget again and others show up to make the same mistake. —David Levy 14:29, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Special Barnstar
Thanks so much for the autopatrolled permission. —Blurred Lines 19:50, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
@Blurred Lines: You are much welcome. Thank you for your contributions to Wikimedia Commons, and happy editing! odder (talk) 20:24, 4 March 2014 (UTC)


Hello Odder,

Can you please move these 2? Jaqeli (talk) 21:09, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Done. odder (talk) 21:41, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. Jaqeli (talk) 21:46, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Odder, by the way is there any way I can watchlist the multiple files with one click without going directly going into the images one by one? Jaqeli (talk) 21:53, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Not that I know of; all the methods I can think of include at least several clicks :-( odder (talk) 10:51, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Okey, thanks anyways. Jaqeli (talk) 11:25, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Oversight attentionEdit

{{YGM}} INeverCry 23:04, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

@INeverCry: Thanks, I'll have a look in a few minutes. odder (talk) 09:29, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
odder, you have a mail. Jee 13:04, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jkadavoor: Thank you; I'll respond once I'm really on-line, ie. in a few hours. odder (talk) 13:17, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Muchas graciasEdit

Gracias por modificar mis permisos para ser "autopatrolled". Ya me ire enterando poco a poco de lo que esto conlleva. Gracias.Adolfobrigido (talk) 17:32, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Usted es siempre bienvenido, @Adolfobrigido. odder (talk) 18:07, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

User autopatrolledEdit

Thanks for insertion between autopatrolled users. --Massimo Telò (scrivimi) 08:46, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

@Massimo Telò: Il tuo benvenuto! odder (talk) 09:29, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

They are so rule-boundEdit

They simply don't understand that the principle comes first, and from the principle that the rules are written (not the other way around). So forgetting the principle and just looking at the rules gives them security as they see that they are operating within the rules, their comfort space. All forest and trees stuff, and damn infuriating.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

@billinghurst: … or else just saddening and depressing if we repeatedly have to deal with the same situations. I'm just so tired of explaining this again and again… :-( odder (talk) 17:21, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


Hi odder,

Can you please move these 2?

Thank you. Jaqeli (talk) 19:03, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Both done :-) odder (talk) 19:48, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. :) Jaqeli (talk) 20:50, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

File:Smoking Crack.jpgEdit

File:Smoking Crack.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

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Zellfaze (talk) 19:12, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification, @Zellfaze. odder (talk) 19:36, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
No problem. Thank you for doing so much great stuff here! Zellfaze (talk) 19:43, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


Hi Odder, what's wrong with my entry. Why you not change my commons-name? :o( --Peter Abraham (talk) 12:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

@Pit 14: I just didn't get to it before. You should be renamed now :-) odder (talk) 17:33, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Hallo Odder, I thank you very much, DANKE... --Pit 14 (talk) 18:05, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
@Pit 14: Bitte schön! And thanks for the flowers :-) odder (talk) 18:24, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Flag of BrazilEdit

Pomoz.Pozdrawiam z Berlina.--J.Dygas (talk) 09:57, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

@J.Dygas: W czym dokładnie potrzebujesz pomocy? odder (talk) 10:10, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Cos zepsulem, I nie moge znalezc.Bylo duzo przetlumaczen, a zostalo tylko pl.--J.Dygas (talk) 10:15, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
@J.Dygas: Ja widzę opis pliku w 20 językach; może masz włączony jakiś gadżet w Preferencjach, który wpływa na to, jakie języki widzisz? odder (talk) 11:42, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Ach to moze z czasem cos nie tak,teraz widze tez wszystkie.Dziekuje za uwage.A tak na marginesie mozesz mi ogolnie tu pomoc,chcialbym wlasciwie tylko tu tlumaczyc na pl., de., cs. I jesli dam rade, to przezucanie plikow na i jeszcze raz dziekuje.--J.Dygas (talk) 12:42, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
@J.Dygas: Jasne, jak będziesz mieć z czymś problem, to oczywiście zapraszam i postaram się pomóc, jeśli będę w stanie :-) odder (talk) 14:05, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Odder!Edit

It seems I now have a lot more rights, thanks to you. I don't expect to use many of them, because I am mainly involved with content, but it certainly will help if I occasionally can change file names without importuning some other busy guy! (First have to do some learning to avoid making a mess, but... :) )

Either way, thanks again. JonRichfield (talk) 04:55, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

@JonRichfield: You are welcome! Thank you for your contributions to Commons; your involvement here is noted and appreciated. odder (talk) 10:01, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Renaming of my AccountEdit

Hi odder, I'm not sure if you read my answer on my Discussion page. If not, I only want to tell you, that I agree with your solution. Thanks.-- (talk) 18:22, 23 March 2014 (UTC)


Many thanks!Manuelvbotelho (talk) 09:58, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

@Manuelvbotelho: You are welcome. Thank you for your contributions to Wikimedia Commons, and happy editing in the future! odder (talk) 17:45, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Prośba o usunięcie plikówEdit

Witaj! Czy mogę prosić o usunięcie kilku plików które załadowane mają Plik:Delete 2 usunać plik.JPG Plik:Usunąć plik 02.JPG Kazimierz Puczyński grób delete please.JPG Izydor Koper grób0.JPG Józef Prokopowicz grób delete.JPGM9837493762487216.JPG I wszystkie wymienione zdjęcia są załadowane pod innymi nazwami Lukasz2 (talk) 19:33, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

@Lukasz2: Zgodnie z prośbą usunąłem File:Izydor Koper grób0.JPG, File:Józef Prokopowicz grób delete.JPG i File:M9837493762487216.JPG — pozostałe pliki zostały usunięte przez innych administratorów. odder (talk) 17:47, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

File:Kazimierz Puczyński grób delete please.JPG i File:Delete 2 usunać plik.JPG File:Delete 2 usunać plik.JPG File:Jan Szymanowski grób delete.JPG File:Brunon Romiszewski grób delete.JPG nie zostały usunięte tak jak i poprzednio są to kopie właściwych plików Lukasz2 (talk) 19:17, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

@Lukasz2: Zrobione. odder (talk) 19:25, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Dzięki wielkie! uchowały się jeszcze File:Paweł Nowacki grób0.JPG I File:Włodzimierz Seweryński grób delete.JPG także do kasacji.Lukasz2 (talk) 19:32, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

@Lukasz2: Oba pliki zniknięte. odder (talk) 19:38, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

File:Usunąć plik 02.JPG to już chyba ostatni dzieki za pomocLukasz2 (talk) 19:43, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

@Lukasz2: Usunięte. odder (talk) 19:46, 2 April 2014 (UTC)


Hi odder,

Please move:

Per Georgian scripts. Jaqeli (talk) 21:44, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: This is now done. odder (talk) 17:45, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. Jaqeli (talk) 18:14, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Picture of the Year 2013 Results AnnouncementEdit

Picture of the Year 2013 ResultsEdit

The 2013 Picture of the Year. View all results »

Dear Odder,

The 2013 Picture of the Year competition has ended and we are pleased to announce the results: We shattered participation records this year — more people voted in Picture of the Year 2013 than ever before. In both rounds, 4070 different people voted for their favorite images. Additionally, there were more image candidates (featured pictures) in the contest than ever before (962 images total).

  • In the first round, 2852 people voted for all 962 files
  • In the second round, 2919 people voted for the 50 finalists (the top 30 overall and top 2 in each category)

We congratulate the winners of the contest and thank them for creating these beautiful images and sharing them as freely licensed content:

  1. 157 people voted for the winner, an image of a lightbulb with the tungsten filament smoking and burning.
  2. In second place, 155 people voted for an image of "Sviati Hory" (Holy Mountains) National Park in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine.
  3. In third place, 131 people voted for an image of a swallow flying and drinking.

Click here to view the top images »

We also sincerely thank to all 4070 voters for participating and we hope you will return for next year's contest in early 2015. We invite you to continue to participate in the Commons community by sharing your work.

the Picture of the Year committee

You are receiving this message because you voted in the 2013 Picture of the Year contest.

Delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:59, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Need your unprejudiced opinionEdit

Dear Odder, I am really sorry, but may I ask you to take part as an experienced user in the discussion about Deletion requests/File:Albert graffiti Belarus.jpg to make it unprejudiced? The question is would anonymous graffiti correspond to the folk art work. Many thanks, Frantishak (talk) 18:09, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

  • @Frantishak: I responded on the deletion request page, thanks for the heads-up. odder (talk) 18:45, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Commons:Requests for comment/Allow transferring files from other Wikimedia Wikis server sideEdit

Please read, copyedit and add to this RfC, specifically section Why a Request for Comment. When done, please list it at Template:Centralized discussion or tell me here so I can proceed. Thanks in advance. -- Rillke(q?) 15:59, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Nowy użytkownikEdit

Hej! Jesteś w stanie mi powiedzieć ile czasu jest się nowym użytkownikiem na Commons? Mati7 (talk) 18:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

@Mati7: 4 dni. odder (talk) 20:35, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Jestem już chyba miesiąc, i dalej w plikach, które przesyłam jest Uploads by new users. Mati7 (talk) 12:17, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

@Mati7: OgreBot po prostu wychwytuje wszystkie pliki przesłane przez użytkowników mających poniżej 150 edycji, ponieważ w tej grupie zwykle znajduje się najwięcej naruszeń praw autorskich. Ty masz w tym momencie 132 edycje, w związku z czym Twoje zdjęcia są dodawane do tej listy; nie ma to związku z Twoim statusem w rozumieniu oprogramowania MediaWiki, a poza tym nie ma się czym przejmować — niedługo znikniesz z tej listy :-)) odder (talk) 12:30, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

work meetingEdit

Hey Odder,
are you interested in joining a meet for doing some free content work in Tripoint region of poland, szech und germany? Maybe you can help us with some lists of Cultural heritage sites in Woiwodschaft Niederschlesien, especially we are interessted in Lists with locations of Upper Lusatian houses. Please have a look at our projectpage - I would be happy to see you there :) . Greetings, Conny (talk) 07:10, 6 April 2014 (UTC).

@Conny: Thanks for the message and the kind invitation. I'm definitely not coming to the meeting, but if you need any help with creating a list of interesting buildings to photograph on the Polish side of the border (if you're planning a photo hunt there), then I'd be happy to help. odder (talk) 15:10, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out my MistakeEdit

I am sorry Its my Mistake. I want it tobe (Rukn950). should I re apply?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rukn950 (talk • contribs)
@Rukn950: No, there's no need. Thanks for fixing the mistake on the request page — I'll take it from here :-) odder (talk) 08:27, 10 April 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for insertion between autopatrolled users :-) --Bubamara (talk) 21:07, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

@Bubamara: You are welcome. Thanks for your involvement with Commons, and happy editing! odder (talk) 21:23, 13 April 2014 (UTC)


Hi odder,

Can you please move these 4?

After moving please delete those categories instead of redirecting. Thank you. Jaqeli (talk) 19:21, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: All done now! odder (talk) 20:01, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks odder. Jaqeli (talk) 20:32, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Odder, please move also these 2.

After moving please delete those categories instead of redirecting. Thanks. Jaqeli (talk) 14:43, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Done, too. odder (talk) 15:12, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Odder. Jaqeli (talk) 15:38, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you...Edit

... for trusting me and grant me the autopatrolled label. Sorry for my bad English of google translator. Escarlati (talk) 23:55, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

@Escarlati: You are much welcome. Thanks for everything that you do on Commons! odder (talk) 08:32, 19 April 2014 (UTC)


Hi odder,

Can you please delete this? Jaqeli (talk) 23:50, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Deleted. odder (talk) 09:53, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Odder. Happy Easter! Jaqeli (talk) 10:48, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

File moveEdit

Hi odder,

Can you please move this one?

After moving please delete the first link instead of redirecting.

Thank you. Jaqeli (talk) 13:44, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Done, and enjoy the remaining of your Easter holidays as well! odder (talk) 13:48, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks odder. Please if you can delete it's redirect also. Jaqeli (talk) 13:59, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: The file was uploaded over two years ago, and I'd rather we kept the redirect in case someone from outside Commons is using it. (Which is impossible to check, but it does not hurt us to keep the redirect in place). odder (talk) 16:25, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
All right. Thanks. Jaqeli (talk) 16:33, 21 April 2014 (UTC)


Hi Odder.

Just wanted to apologise for the lack of on-wiki response to the SpreadTheSign batch upload. Just wanted to assure you that there was activity off-wiki though (including physical poking of Axel). Anyhow thanks for the patience and thanks for closing as stale (we still haven't gotten any response from SpreadTheSign). /André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 10:05, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

@André Costa (WMSE): No offense taken; my close was merely a procedural one and made as part of a wider push to reduce the backlog in bureaucrat tasks. I hope you'll be able to reach SpreadTheSign so that we can move forward with the project. odder (talk) 12:34, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!Edit

Thanks for making me an autopatroller. Much appreciated! :D Best regards,—Clockery Fairfeld who, me? 11:17, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

@Clockery Fairfeld: You are much welcome. Thank you for your contributions to Commons, and happy editing! odder (talk) 11:32, 24 April 2014 (UTC)


Hi odder,

How do I upload the image automatically with the help of Flickr bot? Do you know how that's done? Jaqeli (talk) 18:33, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Sure! Just use this tool. odder (talk) 18:41, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks a lot greatly helped :) Jaqeli (talk) 19:25, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Odder, the Flickr upload bot is no more working. Can you please check it yourself if it works? Or maybe you could fix it? Jaqeli (talk) 10:10, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: It doesn't work for me, either, and I'm not sure whether it will ever be back since its author (Bryan) is not active anymore. You can use Flickr2Commons in the meantime. odder (talk) 11:14, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, that's even better tool. Jaqeli (talk) 12:46, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!Edit

Auto patrol received and acknowledged! Amandajm (talk) 07:25, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

@Amandajm: You are very welcome. Thank you for all your work on Commons, and happy editing! odder (talk) 07:47, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the Autopatrol!Edit

Hi Odder,

I just got a note to say that I'm now autopatrolled. Thanks! --Slashme (talk) 01:04, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

@Slashme: I'm sure you did! :-) Thanks for all you've been doing for Commons and the wider Wikimedia movement, and happy editing, here and elsewhere! odder (talk) 09:42, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!Edit

  A cupcake is a small cake designed to serve one person. They are often served with frosting and sprinkles on top.

Becous you don't like barnstars, i bring you a cupcake :) -- Steinsplitter (talk) 15:10, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

@Steinsplitter: What cupcake?! I can't see no cupcake, this one is gone already! :-) odder (talk) 15:36, 27 April 2014 (UTC)


Hi Odder,

Can you please move this one?

Thank you. Jaqeli (talk) 20:32, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Done :-) odder (talk) 21:28, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks odder :) Jaqeli (talk) 10:01, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Odder, please move this one if you can:

Thank you. Jaqeli (talk) 14:03, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: This is now done as well :-) odder (talk) 14:28, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks again :) Jaqeli (talk) 19:25, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Incompetent editing by a userEdit

Hello odder,

Can you please help to resolve an ongoing problem with one user here File talk:Mkhedruli.svg.

The thing is that this user is continuously continuing to uglify the 3 Georgian letters in that illustration. He has no knowledge in Georgian, does not speak Georgian, nor he knows well the Georgian script and how the Georgian letters are written and me, who is a native Georgian and knows everything in the subject is lecturing me how those letters are actually written. This is getting ridiculous with that user already and pretty much disturbing. I've presented him the original link of the Georgian ministry of education which clearly shows how those 3 Georgian letters are written but still he is reverting the image changes back to that version which has nothing to do with the original Georgian letters. Please do everything possible for solving that dispute with that user as it is getting more and more problematic. Thank you. Jaqeli (talk) 22:19, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: I had a look at that discussion, and cannot see anything wrong with the way it was handled. Granted, the language used by both you and @Kwamikagami was a bit harsh at times, but it's nothing I haven't seen before. Just keep on discussing the issue, preferably by referring to notable sources, and eventually you'll be able to reach a consensus, I'm sure. odder (talk) 07:58, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

I am showing him this to see the differences but he clearly refuses to see them. For a foreign eye it may seem the same but in reality they are not. The Georgian letters are very complex and everything in writing of them are very important. Odder, for example how do you see that image I've just posted? The above image shows how it should be and is a screen-grab from the Georgian ministry of education and the second one is a version of the user Kwamikagami who says that the he made those 3 letters just like how the ministry says but in reality he has not and those 3 letters are not written like the ministry says. Jaqeli (talk) 12:04, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: While I can clearly see a difference between the circled letters on the two images, I have zero knowledge about Georgian alphabet and Georgian letters. I can only hope you and @Kwamikagami will be able to reach a consensus satisfying both parties. I trust that you'll be able to work on this together in good spirit and atmosphere. odder (talk) 19:26, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
The problem here is that Jaqeli provided a very nice source which I used, but which he apparently hasn't actually watched himself. I (and others) have had this kind of dispute with him before; usually it takes weeks or even months of petty bickering over the nature of reality before he admits that he was wrong all along. I'm tired of it, and so would rather remove the image from all articles that use it than to edit-war over it or put in the time required to debate it. Kwamikagami (talk) 21:13, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Odder, that incompetent editing is back. I cannot understand his delusional obstinacy. He still believes that those letters are written the same way on that image I've linked to show the differences. He seriously has a visual problems if he really thinks that those letters are the same on those two images but I cannot help to make him understand that. Please do everything possible for avoiding such an incompetent editing as he is clearly making those Georgian letters ugly in purpose. He just does not want to listen and to correct those mistakes on those 3 letters. He just does not want to see that they are written differently and continues to ridicule the entire discussion process. I hope you would be able to find some solution for this because I cannot any more have that discussion with him as he clearly does not want to listen and see those mistakes those 3 letters have in writing. Jaqeli (talk) 09:24, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: As I wrote above, I have zero knowledge about Georgian alphabet and Georgian calligraphy. I have, however, a lot of experience in discussing issues on various Wikimedia projects, and can clearly see that the way you are currently discussing this issue leads nowhere but to conflict. I have no doubt in my mind that both you and @Kwamikagami mean nothing but good with your contributions here on Commons and elsewhere, and I would please, please ask you to try to reach some consensus in a friendly, polite and considerate manner. We are all here to bring free knowledge to others, but it cannot be done if we keep fighting one another. odder (talk) 12:43, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

I am a native Georgian and I am telling him who is not a native Georgian, speaks no Georgian, cannot write Georgian and has no knowledge in Georgian that those 3 Georgian letters are written wrong. But no, he does not want to understand that and he is lecturing me a native Georgian that I am wrong. Now, how can I have a discussion with such ridiculous attitude that user has? I have asked him million times already that those 3 letters are written wrong but he just does not want to understand that. May I ask you as an admin. Who is more knowledgeable in this matter? A native Georgian (me) who speaks, writes and knows everything of Georgian language, writing system, calligraphy etc. or that user who does not speak it, cannot write it and has no knowledge in it? It is his delusional obstinacy that is making it impossible to reach any consensus with him. I just don't understand this any more. Jaqeli (talk) 12:55, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: I understand where you're coming from on this issue, and I understand that you might feel a little bit irritated by how this discussion is developing. We all get a little nervous if things do not go as planned :-) I don't think there is any need to get too upset about this. I suggest that you take a break from this issue and focus on something else for a while; maybe it will allow you to have a fresh look. When you do decide to go back to the problem at hand, please try to refer to sources and facts rather than feelings. If you still will not be able to reach consensus with @Kwamikagami by then, then the only solution that I can think of is to create two different files and allow Wikipedias to decide which one they want to use by themselves rather than decide it here on Commons. odder (talk) 22:20, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

What's so odd about this is that the change he's complaining most about is from the source he provided. He even did a screen capture that shows I'm right. It's like arguing with someone over which direction "up" is. He originally complained about twice the number of changes, claiming that Georgians never wrote that way, only to admit that he was wrong about half of them. I know he's wrong about the main remaining one, and from what I can see in various sources, it would appear he's wrong about the rest as well. I've defended Jaqeli when others have gotten upset with him for nonsensical arguments like this, but it is getting tiresome. Kwamikagami (talk) 06:09, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Odder, are you telling me that I am not that knowledgeable to tell which Georgian letter is right or wrong? The user above is vandalising those 3 letters and I should not care? He is that delusional that he even stated above that on that screen capture which I've posted showed he is right. Now how can I talk to such user or discuss anything anymore? He is clearly lying or has serious visual problems with eyes. He has no understanding of Georgian and he should stop his vandalous editing as soon as possible. I have given him the source upon what he should base his corrections but no he clearly does not want to and even claims that he did it all by that source and this is me who cannot clearly see a source. Now how can I deal with that kind of cynicism from his side? Jaqeli (talk) 08:45, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli, Kwamikagami: Calm down, guys. If you do have to argue, don't do it from Odder's talk page. But I highly recommend Odder's suggestion of creating two different files. This seems to have become a revert war. (Sorry, Odder, for barging in... :) Best regards,—Clockery Fairfeld who, me? 10:16, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Admin's Barnstar
Odder!!! I'm very happy to see that you have recently usurped my account from Himanis Das to HPD. So, this barnstar is from me for your excellent work.  HPD   talk  07:55, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks @HPD, glad to see you so happy! Best of luck, and I hope to see you editing Commons in the future! odder (talk) 08:23, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Category:Nędza z biedą (Wójcicki)Edit

Popełniłam szewski błąd w tytule publikacji. Bardzo Cię proszę o zmianę nazwy wszystkich plików na tę zgodną z nazwą kategorii - i przede wszystkim zgodną ze stanem faktycznym. Książka nosi tytuł "Nędza z biedą"... Z góry dziękuję i przepraszam za zamieszanie. Wieralee (talk) 10:46, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

@Wieralee: Nie ma za co — już poprawione :-) odder (talk) 11:19, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Coat of arms of MalaysiaEdit

Hi Odder, can you delete this file. The user who uploading it keep adding this file on the coat of arms article even after been told. The reason is according to the Malaysian law, Malaysian copyright file would be free after 50 years. The file created on 1963 but the last modified happens on 1965, so based on a calculation, it will be free from any copyright in the next year (2015). Here an old discussion about it. :) — ᴀʟʀᴇᴀᴅʏ ʙᴏʀᴇᴅ ʜᴜʜ? 19:44, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi @Ranking Update: Deleted, thanks for bringing this to my attention :-) odder (talk) 20:26, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
You're welcome and thanks for helping on this matter too. ;) — ᴀʟʀᴇᴀᴅʏ ʙᴏʀᴇᴅ ʜᴜʜ? 08:03, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


Hi odder,

Can you please review this image? I think the bot got stuck to review it. Jaqeli (talk) 10:19, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: The problem with that file is that it's basically a derivative work of the portrait, and unless we know that the portrait is released under CC BY-SA or else in the public domain, we cannot host that picture on Commons. Do you happen to know who created the portrait, and if so, whether it's free? odder (talk) 13:00, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
I think that image should have been sold at the dry market in Tbilisi. It's a place of the antiquity and former Soviet things like that and are sold there. Unfortunately I don't know who is or was the author but I think it should be old enough but how old I don't know. Many painted Stalin in the past in that very pattern. Do you think we cannot keep the image? Jaqeli (talk) 13:23, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: In general, works created by Soviet artists are free only after 70 years after their death (see Commons:Copyright tags for more information); as we cannot determine who was the author, or even what country they were a citizen of, I believe we cannot keep the file due to our precautionary principle. I'm intending to delete it if you agree — sorry about that :-( odder (talk) 13:45, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
No problem. Of course I agree as no information is given or known concerning its author or time of its creation so please do so. Jaqeli (talk) 14:54, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: Thanks, I have now deleted the file. Enjoy the rest of your evening :-) odder (talk) 18:45, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks odder :) Jaqeli (talk) 23:16, 7 May 2014 (UTC)


Please, help me. Can i revert original images, removed by Dennis? You talked here about this (here) As i cen see Commons:OVERWRITE tell me that i should. But he tretened me, please look at this, help me, i dont understand, we must not overwrite images, i think? Help me please. --Anastan (talk) 22:55, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

I asked a question here, and one person tell me that we should not overwrite images. (here) --Anastan (talk) 22:59, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
@Anastan: This indeed is true, but we also shouldn't engage in edit wars. While I don't personally like the behaviour that Dennis has shown, I also know that he means nothing but good. I suggest that you and other Serbian editors discuss the situation on the appropriate talk pages; it is always possible to reach some sort of consensus by discussing the issue at hand. odder (talk) 07:51, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
You are telling me to stop edit wars? I didnt start it, but current version is not regular one. I am asking for you to tell dennis to stop wit hedit war, as he moved current version after years in peace. Please, do that, so we can have peace, as it was befoure. --Anastan (talk) 12:44, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
@Anastan: I'm asking you to refrain from taking part in edit wars, as this is a way that generally leads nowhere but to conflict. It's much better to discuss controversial issues on talk pages, no matter who started the edit war; every version is wrong. odder (talk) 14:03, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Wow, viki have rules for everything i say... I will talk on page then --Anastan (talk) 19:40, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


Zmieniłeś sens. Było o tym, że grupa jest satanistyczna, a zmieniłeś na coś, co znaczy, że chodzi o satanistyczny death metal, ale nie jest po polsku. Jak już miał być satanistyczny death metal, to by musiało być tak, jak teraz zmieniłem (chociaż dałem "pop metal"). Tego się nie da odmienić. Krzysiu (talk) 20:24, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Okej. odder (talk) 20:32, 9 May 2014 (UTC)


Hi again Odder, can you delete these files. I have made a duplicate files without knowing it is already been created by Orionist. Thanks! :) — ᴀʟʀᴇᴀᴅʏ ʙᴏʀᴇᴅ ʜᴜʜ? 01:56, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Odder. If in Wikipedia we can send a cookies.. I want to give you a cookies because you always helping me here. ;) — ᴀʟʀᴇᴀᴅʏ ʙᴏʀᴇᴅ ʜᴜʜ? 14:45, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Recount requestEdit

Hi Odder,

Could you please recount votes for Niklem? There seems to be +12 -2 =0. Thanks, Sealle (talk) 15:02, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

@Sealle: Oi! I appear not to have noticed the support vote cast by Marcus; just fixed my omission. Thank you for noticing this! odder (talk) 15:11, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Deletion requests notificationsEdit

File:Monthly Metrics Meeting February 2, 2012 (240p).ogvEdit

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Pete F (talk) 18:52, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, @Pete, responded there. odder (talk) 20:09, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

AW: BBC is using your photo without creditEdit

Hello Odder! You can read what happened on my Discussion page. Kind regards hermannk

Thanks! Responded there. odder (talk) 07:56, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Portrety wyborcze plakaty itpEdit

Witam! Od pewnego czasu robię plakaty wyborcze do parlamentu europejskiego jednak teraz dostałem informacje że nie można takich robić ponieważ obowiązują prawa autorskie. Czy orientujesz się jak jak z tym jest? Bo nie chcę robić sztuki dla sztuki. Lukasz2 (talk) 10:33, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

@Lukasz2: Generalnie jeśli fotografia przedstawia jedynie plakat wyborczy, to uznawana jest za pracę pochodną od plakatu. Jeśli plakat wyborczy nie został udostępniony na wolnej licencji, to niestety jego fotografia nie może być przechowywana w Wikimedia Commons.

Jest to niewątpliwie pewna strata dla nas, więc może warto byłoby w tym wypadku skontaktować się z konkretnymi komitetami wyborczymi i poprosić o uwolnienie fotografii kandydata? Podczas ostatnich wyborów prezydenckich wszystkie komitety tak zrobiły, dzięki czemu mamy w Wikipedii wspaniałe zdjęcia prezydenta (wtedy kandydata) Bronisława Komorowskiego, Grzegorza Napieralskiego, Jarosława Kaczyńskiego, Waldemara Pawlaka i innych. W takiej sytuacji zysk jest obopólny — komitety i kandydaci korzystają z dobrej formy promocji (w postaci Wikipedii), a my mamy wspaniałe fotografie na wolnej licencji. odder (talk) 11:46, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Zmiana nazwy użytkownika Pablomx7Edit

Dziękuję za zmianę mojej nazwy użytkownika, jednakże kiedy utworzę konto globalne to czy moje konto na angielskiej wikipedii pod starym nickiem również przekształci się w nową nazwę? Na stronie o tworzeniu konta globalnego wyświetla mi się tylko polska wikipedia i commons. -- Paweł Ruminkiewicz (talk) 17:01, 14 May 2014 (UTC) PS. Został mi stary podpis.

@Pablomx7: Niestety nie, jeżeli chcesz zachować edycje wykonane na angielskiej Wikipedii spod Twojej poprzedniej nazwy użytkownika, musisz poprosić o zmianę nazwy tak samo, jak zrobiłeś to na Commons, a potem połączyć wszystkie konta w konto globalne za pomocą Special:MergeAccount. Podpis możesz zmienić w swoich preferencjach. odder (talk) 17:10, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
@Długo czeka się na zmianę na angielskiej wikipedii? Link:w:Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple#Pawel Ruminkiewicz → Pablomx7 --Pablomx7 (talk) 17:23, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
@Pablomx7: Ciężko mi to określić, sam nigdy nie prosiłem o zmianę nazwy użytkownika i nie orientuję się w procedurach obowiązujących na angielskiej Wikipedii, ale pewnie gdzieś ok. 2-3 dni maksymalnie. odder (talk) 17:33, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
@OK, dzięki za pomoc. --Pablomx7 (talk) 17:38, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
@Wiesz może kto mógłby połączyć moje dwa konta w jedno na wikimedii? --Pablomx7 (talk) 20:45, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
@Pablomx7: Możesz to zrobić samodzielnie na Special:MergeAccount. Gdybyś czegoś nie wiedział, to na samej górze strony znajdują się odnośniki do stron pomocy po polsku i angielsku. odder (talk) 21:07, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
@Najpierw muszę zmienić nazwę na wikimedii, ale sekretarz nie odpowiada na mojego maila, do kogo mógłbym się zwrócić ?--Pablomx7 (talk) 19:26, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
@Pablomx7: Napisz do któregoś z lokalnych biurokratów. Osobiście polecam Polimerka (prezesa WMPL); w ostatnich zmianach możesz zobaczyć, że edytował on dzisiaj wiki WMPL. Napisz do niego po prostu na stronie dyskusji prośbę o zmianę nazwy użytkownika. odder (talk) 19:41, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

W.Sz. KaczmarekEdit

Cześć. Nie znam statusu tego obrazu. Jeśli usunięcie będzie konieczne, to trudno. Pzdr. MOs810 (talk) 20:36, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Usuniecie plikuEdit

Witaj! czy mozesz usunąć plik bo załądowała mi się kopia? 06:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC) File:Adminie ten usuń plik bo to kopia.JPG

Usunięto. odder (talk) 08:36, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

History FileEdit

Odder, can you delete the old "file history" in the picture because a user just update the file with a nonsense flag. — ᴀʟʀᴇᴀᴅʏ ʙᴏʀᴇᴅ ʜᴜʜ? 22:11, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

@Ranking Update: I'd rather not do that. While the picture might not be factually correct, it is not vandalism; and it doesn't hurt us in any way to keep it in file history. odder (talk) 13:02, 20 May 2014 (UTC)


Need suppression of a name and external links due to COM:IDENT from the revision histories. Jee 13:06, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

@Jkadavoor: The only policy that we take into consideration when doing suppressions is the Oversight policy; COM:IDENT, while important on a daily basis, is not in itself a reason for performing suppressions. I understand that you think the real name of the person who was photographed was revealed without their knowledge or consent, but as far as I am aware, @Leucosticte is who they claim to be. With that in mind, I'd only suppress the page revisions and edit summaries that reveal that real name upon a request from the person affected. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, and enjoy your evening! odder (talk) 13:23, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
My edit was reverted and I don't wan to involved it any further. Hope I informed this to a more experienced user like you and believe the privacy and safety of such people are safe in your hands. Thanks, Jee 14:33, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
I wonder sometimes how Commons could build up a collection of useful images of people unless it were to accept at face value people's assertions about consent, authorship, etc. It's not like this is Citizendium, where users have to present proof of identity before contributing. Leucosticte (talk) 04:30, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

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Fränsmer (talk) 12:22, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

@Fränsmer: I am not the author of that particular image (it seems I only fulfilled an edit request posted by someone else), but I understand that the deletion nomination script makes you inform each and every uploader, and that's just fine with me. I don't have any opinion on the deletion request, so I'll leave it up to someone else to decide. odder (talk) 13:28, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
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