Kerry Raymond

Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, Kerry Raymond!

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Tip: Categorizing images

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Hello, Kerry Raymond!

Tip: Add categories to your files

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Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

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[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]

[[Category:Comets]]

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CategorizationBot (talk) 11:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Image:St-Brigids-4.JPG was uncategorized on 20 January 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• Image:St-Brigids-Church-Perth.JPG was uncategorized on 20 January 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• Image:Glenrae.JPG was uncategorized on 26 February 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:17, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
• Image:Graceville-Uniting-Church.JPG was uncategorized on 26 February 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:17, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
• Image:The-Gables-Graceville.JPG was uncategorized on 26 February 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:17, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
• Image:Oakleigh House, 17 Murray St, Wilston, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.jpg was uncategorized on 6 January 2012 CategorizationBot (talk) 12:21, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Category Barnstar
		For all your work categorizing Category:Photographic material from the Queensland State Archives 99of9 (talk) 10:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Still appreciating your hard work! --99of9 (talk) 09:38, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Under 2500 to go! I've tried to pitch in a bit too. It takes a long time doesn't it? --99of9 (talk) 02:53, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

It's one of those things I do when I don't really want to think too hard :-) I added a lot of Categories using Cat-a-Lot and AWB, so actually many of the "uncategorised" are in fact at least partially or often sufficiently categorised, but it still needs a manual look at each one. So the progress is probably greater than it seems. Kerry Raymond (talk) 03:01, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Ding ding ding... under 2000! Thanks for the sustained effort. If you stay this attentive to it there's a danger I'll ask for your help on another few thousand aussie images that are currently in the pipeline... --99of9 (talk) 07:13, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Notice how I have failed to volunteer for the CSIRO images so far :-) I've taken on a few too many things, so I am trying to clear the backlog before taking on any more commitments. I don't like having lots of things half-done. Kerry Raymond (talk) 07:15, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Done! Kerry Raymond (talk) 10:41, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Congrats and thanks! That's a huge outcome. You deserve another barnstar, but I'm not on a good enough connection right now to find the most appropriate one. --99of9 (talk) 13:53, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

		The Historical Media Barnstar
		For locating and suggesting the Category:Photographic material from the Queensland State Archives as a great source of historic Queensland media. 99of9 (talk) 10:05, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

PS I guess I awarded them in the wrong order... oh well. --99of9 (talk) 10:05, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Queensland

It has become some kind of a standard for write "x year in" (at least when it comes to countries, towns and federated states). J 1982 (talk) 10:51, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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• Yep, that is more than enough proof for anyone. I've added links to one photo, so anyone looking at it will know it is definitely your own work. If you don't get round to it I'll add similar links to the other photos which need them. Thank you for your contributions. :) Green Giant (talk) 09:14, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Carts and Wagons

Hi, when categorising images would you please note that there is a major difference between wagons and carts. You and others are giving me sore fingers! Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 06:25, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Eddaido! Sorry if I don't know the difference but I really don't know what I can do to fix the problem unless you point me at the file. I've been categorising thousands of photos from the Queensland State Archives over the past month or so, so I really don't remember them individually. But there is no need for you to get sore fingers to fix a problem like this, just use Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot to pick out the wrong ones and re-categorise them. I re-categorise lots of things (in topic areas I do know about) that way. Kerry Raymond (talk) 19:46, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Kerry, carts have two wheels, wagons or waggons have four. Have just found your response and will go see if I (a poor computer illiterate kiwi) can understand about Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot and come back. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 04:19, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Looks like Cat-a-lot could be useful. I don't think its now necessary in this case. I have just done two searches, Cart Brisbane and Cart Queensland. The first brought up just one (which I'd already fixed but it was in the text of the picture description which I'd have thought was done by the Archives — and Surely they would know.(?)) This is another example File:StateLibQld 2 182687 Filling a tank on a water cart at Warwick, Queensland, 1900-1910.jpg possibly because it was spoken of as a water cart though the men in the photo have pressed a waggon (I'd guess, because its so lightly built, its an old gig with the seats removed and a tray in their place) and a corrugated iron tank into service and some one has given it the generic name "water cart". Does that make sense? Its a (temporary) "water cart" made from a wagon and a tank.

Anyway I have now categorised it under Category:Horse-drawn wagons in Australia. So though I still have sore fingers (I see I made 44 files go into the new wagons category) I did fix the mistakes. I just needed to tell you about it. Thanks for your response, Eddaido (talk) 06:31, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Category:Sugarcane_farming_in_Australia

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Category:Sugarcane_farming_in_Queensland

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Alan Liefting (talk) 00:16, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Category on userpage image

Hi Kerry - I reverted the category addition to my userpage image [1] since that image isn't meant to be used as an illustration for any South Georgia content, but is simply here for use on my user page. Hopefully that makes sense, but let me know if you disagree. -- Wrh2 (talk) 22:05, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

No problem. I had just stumbled on a bunch of uncategorised images of South Georgia Island so thought I'd gather up anything that mentioned it into a category. I visited South Georgia Island myself in 1996 and took loads of photos, but we didn't have digital cameras back then, so it's not so easy to contribute them (too much tedious scanning). Kerry Raymond (talk) 22:18, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Category:South Georgia Island

We already have Category:South Georgia, and although this is both the name of the main island of the South Georgia islands and the island group, I think it will be confusing to have two categories ceovering more or less the same topic. - 4ing (talk) 22:12, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I discovered that afterwards. I had assumed that any category name would involve the word "island" when I went searching for an existing category in order to categorise a number of uncategorised photos. I think there needs to be a category redirect when categories don't use the common name, so we don't waste more people's time. Kerry Raymond (talk) 22:31, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Well, South Georgia is the proper name of the Island. But a redirect would be great. And thanks for the categorization work! - 4ing (talk) 22:39, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

I have now undone the categorisation work that I did as you told me it was wrong. This will have left a number of photos uncategorised. Sorry for trying to help; I'll leave it to the experts. Kerry Raymond (talk)

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Takeaway (talk) 11:21, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

@Takeaway: If you scroll down the web page at the source link provided, you will see the CC-BY logo towards the lower right of the page and then if you go to the Copyright link at the very bottom of the page, it will take you to the webpage that says the site is CC-BY-4.0. I suspect you got distracted looking at the image and didn't look at the page behind the image (closing the image makes it easier to see, but the CC license is visible even with the image displayed - well it is on my laptop - maybe you have a rendering issue). Can you please remove the permission tag from the file? 12:46, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	𝓗𝓔𝓛𝓛𝓞 👍 Ramiiiiiiiii 08:07, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

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Former Lidcombe Hospital

Thanks for adding the old shot of the hospital to the new category, which I just created half an hour ago. Wow, you sure are on the ball. I was out there yesterday to get some shots. Do you have a particular interest in Lidcombe?

Looking at the old photo, I can't help noticing that the buildings aren't the same buildings that are there now. Do you know anything about this?

Sardaka (talk) 08:02, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

@Sardaka: That was random chance and it surprised me too. I am working my way through all the articles on the Category:New South Wales State Heritage Register to try to add an infobox photo and the commons category. I have seen and used a number of your photos taken over the years (so thanks for all your efforts, the photos do get used eventually) but I was taken aback by how recent your Lidcombe Hospital photos were. We have just done a big roll-out of all the NSWSHR articles, but photos weren't a priority at that point so now I am coming back and looking for photos. Kerry Raymond (talk) 08:47, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

File:1 Pitt and Hunter002.jpg

Looks like the sign reads "Map of the seat war". Bidgee (talk) 11:22, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

@Bidgee: Yes, that was my best guess too. So I tried to see what the Sydney Morning Herald published as an illustration with that title and got these search results which would appear to suggest it is Russo-Japanese War during the 1904 campaign. But it is not so clear to me why this war would be of such interest to the Sydneysiders that they would want a large map of it on the front of the building. It would make sense if Australian troops were involved, which is why I wondered if it was the Boer War (the lack of motor vehicles makes it unlikely it is World War I). One of the search results is to the Boer War, in which case it might be 1902. I guess this is drifting into original research, but it would have been nice if the map had provided a date for the photo. Kerry Raymond (talk) 21:33, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

@Bidgee: I found this photo which appears to be the same photo (the people and vehicles in the street are in the same positions). But here we can clearly see it is a map of Southern Africa and to the right of the door "Off to the war" and then something I can't quite read about departure of troops. Kerry Raymond (talk) 21:43, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Ah, File:Herald_Office,_Sydney_(3003586345).jpg is dated 1899 according to the Powerhouse Museum which is the start of the Second Boer War. It's all coming together now. Kerry Raymond (talk) 21:55, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

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JuTa 17:10, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

@JuTa: This seems to be a problem with the way we describe files on Commons. The uploader gets asked for the source of the file and the permission, but you don't get asked for the source for the permission. I have correctly provided the URL for the file I uploaded and I have asserted that the permission is CC-BY-4.0 (all of which is true). There appears to be an assumption here on Commons that the source file itself will be individually marked with the permission, but I am drawing the two files you have questioned from a site which has a site-wide CC-BY-4.0 (with some exceptions) permissions statement, an arrangement which is increasingly used by the Australian Government and some of our state governments (the New South Wales state government in this case). There should be a field here to Commons to provide the link to sitewide (or similar) permission statements that are not individually marked on the sourcefiles, but AFAIK there isn't such a field (and I note that that the Upload Wizard only provides a radio button to select CC-BY-4.0 and never asks why you believe that to be so). I'm happy to add it if you can tell me what field I should be using. Kerry Raymond (talk) 19:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

The problem was that on the source links to provided, the license wasnt visible. You corrected that now, and I removed the problem tags. regards. --JuTa 03:51, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

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JuTa 17:27, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Someone moved the QLD border?

File:Technical Response Rescue Unit, Urban Search and Rescue of Queensland Fire and Rescue in Wagga Wagga.jpg. Bidgee (talk) 09:15, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Shush, it's the forward troops of the Qld invasion plan :-) Kerry Raymond (talk) 22:15, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

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Alex Cohn (talk) 03:06, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

@Alex Cohn: This is marked PD on Flickr and that has been confirmed. It is an image of Australia, uploaded by the Queensland State Archives (an Australian organisation) as PD. It is therefore {{PD-Australia}} which is acceptable on Commons. We have thousands of images from the Queensland State Archives here on Commons because they are committed to using PD and CC-BY licensing. If these are manually uploaded, they are normally tagged PD-Australia by the uploader, but when they come via the Flickr , they are just marked as PD as Flickr does not have a PD-Australia option. PD-Australia is pre-1955 content, so you should expect to see much later dates on PD-Australia content compared to public domain in other countries. Please remove the speedy delete. Kerry Raymond (talk) 04:01, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Commons requires images uploaded as public domain to be PD in both the source country and the US, so I don't think {{PD-Australia}} is a sufficient license tag by itself. The image is indeed PD in Australia, but I doubt the Queensland State Archives are considering US law when deciding which license tags to apply to images they upload to Flickr, so the PD tag applied on Flickr is likely not trustworthy for purposes of uploading to Commons. In 31 days, this particular image will be PD in the US based on age, and this will be moot, though. Alex Cohn (talk) 18:46, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Are you serious! Who in the US would ‘own’ the rights to a Australian created work that was created by a Queensland Government employee? No one, it is a fictitious argument that Australian works have US copyright. Bidgee (talk) 23:47, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

@Alex Cohn: Agreements between the USA and many other countries including Australia deal with the treatment of material originating in those countries in relation to copyright. In a nutshell, the USA respects Australian copyright law in relation to Australian images and vice versa. Therefore, there is no problem with hosting PD-Australia content on Commons as they are accepted as PD in USA regardless of the relevant dates in USA's own rules on copyright of material created in the USA. This has been understood for many years on Commons and we have many PD-Australian files on Commons, as well as PD-LotsOfOtherCountries. Kerry Raymond (talk) 09:32, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

@Bidgee: Unclear ownership of copyright is not an argument for PD: orphan works are unfortunately a thing in US copyright law. Unless the Government of Queensland has disclaimed copyright for a specific work (e.g. with CC-0) or in a blanket fashion (as the US federal government has) they may still hold international copyrights they are unaware of. While some countries recognize the "rule of the shorter term" for works from others, the US generally does not. @Kerry Raymond: Do you have a citation for a treaty that may have modified this? See also en:Copyright expiration in Australia#Comparison with American copyright law, which is admittedly unsourced but also claims that PD in Aus does not necessarily mean PD in the US. (I agree with your sentiment - the intersection of US and international copyright law and Commons' policy that media must be PD in both the country of origin and the US creates situations that make zero sense by any rational standard) Alex Cohn (talk) 18:19, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Never said it was "unclear" ownership, no one owns the copyright in the US! The Department of Housing and Public Works/State of Queensland would not claim copyright in the US, when it has been in the PD in Australia for sometime. My view point has been for sometime that the WMF needs to have this cleared up by seeking its own legal team to take an overview of copyrights and Commons policy and not to be relied on the view of a few Commons contributors. Bidgee (talk) 07:04, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Just on this point, I had an interesting discussion with someone from a major Australian cultural institution about this issue a few years ago. They were baffled about the need for works in their online collection which are PD in Australia to be further marked as being PD worldwide for Wikipedia purposes, and noted that it would be legally difficult for them to do this given that they don't actually have the legal right to say how PD Australia works can be further used given that they're PD. The institution has since figured out a form of words which addresses this, happily, by simply noting that the images are PD. Nick-D (talk) 09:37, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

@Bidgee and Nick-D: Yes, it would be good if we could have a definitive statement in some appropriate page on Commons that says PD-Australia is allowed on Commons (with whatever caveats might apply, if any). This is not the first time Ozzies have had this problem about "but it's not PD in the USA" so it would be nice to have a place to point to say "It's OK, see here where a full explanation is given". Kerry Raymond (talk) 11:01, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

@Alex Cohn: I am not a copyright lawyer. You need to go to the copyright help desk for a definitive answer. But I think it all started with the Berne Convention which establishes the principle of which nation's copyright law gets to determine the copyright of a work (which is complicated for things like a movie, but is straightforward for a photo as the place it is taken determines the nation). That is, if an Australian citizen goes to the USA and take photos of the Brooklyn Bridge, it is USA copyright law that applies and if American citizens come to Australia and take photos of the Sydney Harbour Bridge, it is Australian copyright law that applies. Article 18 in Berne says "If, however, through the expiry of the term of protection which was previously granted, a work has fallen into the public domain of the country where protection is claimed, that work shall not be protected anew." That is, once a work is out of copyright in one country, no country that is signatory of the Berne convention can declare it is copyright under their law. I believe most trade agreements which address intellectual property rights do so based on the Berne Convention. Photos in Australia are out of copyright pre-1955 (a fixed date, that is, it will not be pre-1956 next year) and for government works I think it is now 1969 (50 years ago). But it gets better, here in Queensland we have a very proactive policy of government material being as accessible and re-usable as possible. Agencies like the Queensland State Archives and State Library of Queensland have embraced this with enthusiasm and make a lot of material available in a variety of ways under the weakest possible licence they can. Kerry Raymond (talk) 20:17, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

You're right - this is the wrong forum to discuss copyright issues. Additionally, I'd like to apologize for the original tag - even if my logic above is correct, File:Architectural plans, Gympie Baby Clinic, 9 April 1925.jpg is still PD in the US because of {{PD-1996}}. Thanks for your time and consideration here. I greatly appreciate your responses. Alex Cohn (talk) 22:01, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

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Hello Kerry Raymond, the following content you uploaded violates one or more of our policies and therefore has been or will soon be deleted:

File:Cairncross Dock C2-5187 (48261344521).jpg

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And also:

• File:Cairncross Dockyard, Morningside C2-5164 (48261413142).jpg
• File:Cairncross Dockyard, Morningside C2-5165 (48261340921).jpg
• File:Cairncross Dockyard, Morningside C2-5166 (48261413407).jpg
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• File:Dry Dock, South Brisbane, riverside. September 1964 C2-5177 (48261342991).jpg
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• File:Dry Dock, South Brisbane, riverside. September 1964 C2-5188 (48261344681).jpg
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• File:Dry Dock, South Brisbane, riverside. September 1964 C2-5190 (48261417357).jpg
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Yours sincerely, 1989 (talk) 04:55, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@1989: What was the problem? They are from a batch upload from Flickr from the collection of the Queensland State Archives. The File:Cairncross Dock C2-5187 (48261344521).jpg is from here and is released there as "public domain". These are Queensland Government images of Queenland from the 1960s so Australian copyright law applies, and as they are more than 50 years, so they are public domain in Australia. Under Berne convention, they are therefore PD in the USA. The problem is that Flickr does not have a way for the uploader (in this instance Queensland State Archives) to indicate under which country's copyright laws they are PD. Kerry Raymond (talk) 05:26, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

The license you used to upload these was the PDM license which is generally not allowed on Commons. 1989 (talk) 07:35, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

So why do we offer people tools on Commons that upload with that license?! If you could restore them, I will PD-Australia them. Kerry Raymond (talk) 07:46, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm not sure, anyways,  Done 1989 (talk) 13:19, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, all PD-Australia now (I hope). Kerry Raymond (talk) 22:28, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

You should remove the {{FlickreviewR}} tag since the PDM license is no longer there. 1989 (talk) 22:32, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

I cannot remove them because the template says "If you are an administrator or a trusted user, you can review the image and remove the tag." Kerry Raymond (talk) 22:58, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Done. Bidgee (talk) 02:44, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Bidgee! Kerry Raymond (talk) 03:01, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

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Democracy sausage barbecue, Kenmore State School, Moggill electoral district, Queensland, state election, 25 November 2017, 13:15:54

Democracy sausage barbecue, Kenmore State School, Moggill electoral district, Queensland, state election, 25 November 2017, 13:15:54
What were the price of Democracy sausages at that venue and date, and the approximate dimensions of the sausage?
Are these canonical "Democracy sausages" ?
These appear to be skinless and finely ground to a homogenized texture, what some other countries might call frankfurters.
Is this a correct perception? Thanks.

0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 16:50, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@0mtwb9gd5wx: A democracy sausage is not any specific type of sausage in terms of its food content but rather a sausage that is sold ane eaten at a polling station during an election in Australia. Voting in Australia is compulsory for adult citizens so there are large numbers of people queuing to vote and community groups use the opportunity to do fund-raising by selling food and drink. The BBQ sausage wrapped in a slice of bread is so widely sold and eaten at polling stations that "democracy sausage" is now an Australian cultural icon. Kerry Raymond (talk) 23:34, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

@Kerry Raymond: Democracy sausage barbecue, 25 November 2017, 13:15:54
I am referring specifically to this picture and the items on view, were you there and did you take the picture? Also how large were the crowds usually (pre-pandemic) ? –§–0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 09:12, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@0mtwb9gd5wx: Since it's uploaded under an {{Own work}} license, it's safe to assume I was there taking the photo. In the normal way of such events (being fund raisers for community groups) they are probably the cheapest sausages that they could buy in bulk. However, the ones you are seeing raw in the package in the foreground of the photo are gluten-free sausages (if you zoom in, you can that on the label of the packet) so not the typical sausage being sold. Being 3 years ago (and a couple of elections ago), I don't remember the price (probably AU $2 or $3), the precise dimensions of the sausage, nor the size of the crowd. Kerry Raymond (talk) 20:36, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@Kerry Raymond: So the price charged by a fund-raising organization, currently, from your experience, for that item is AU $2 or AU $3 ? The package seems not to be a family-sized package. What kind of stores sell bulk packages like this? The optics could be misleading, but they seem to be larger than one inch in diameter and longer than six inches in length. What is the standard size that one usually purchases at a supermarket for home consumption, and how many per package ? The pink meat product seems to be almost homogenous. In the USA they call such products "hot dogs" or more archaically, a "frankfurter". So these pink meat products are called sausages ? In the USA they call coarser grinds as sausages, e.g.: kielbasa, calabrese, and wurst. What are those flat, disk-shaped, light-colored items ? Do people stand outside voting places and yell at people waiting to vote, to vote for a particular candidate or for/against a policy issue ? Do any wiki articles talk about how AU got compulsory voting ? ---0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 02:43, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

They are not frankfurter (or what we call Frankfurts), these are gluten free sausages. And at polling places, BBQ are typically set-up by P&C (Parents & Citizens groups) at schools, scouts/girl guides, community or church groups as a way of raising funds for example, installing shade sails at a school, new equipment for scouts ect. They are political neutral. Even those handing out ‘how to vote cards/sheet’ have rules to follow (be a certain distance from the polling place, must not yell, must respect the voter ect). Bidgee (talk) 03:49, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

@0mtwb9gd5wx: I don't eat gluten-free sausages so I plead ignorance of their taste, contents and size, but agree that they do look pretty unattractive raw (a good reason not to eat them perhaps!). Sausages come in all shapes and sizes in Australia and are filled with a wide variety of appealing (and probably unappealing) contents. They are sold singly, in packets, in bulk orders, whatever you want. For a list of sausages from a local online supermarket, see this search on "sausage". If you search on other terms like "frankfurt" or names of specific sausage types, you will probably get more results. And of course there are speciality butchers and delis that also sell a wide range of sausages and sausage meats. The Kenmore area (where my photo of the democracy sausage comes from) has attracted an above average number of South African immigrants so a lot of our local butchers and delis make the South African Boerewors sausages. I gather you are from the USA. Having visited the USA many times, the food you have in the USA is not that different to the food we have in Australia. This is not surprising as we are both countries with a wide variety of climates, a large agricultural industry growing a wide variety of local produce, and we are both nations with immigrants from many of the same countries (Germans, Italians, etc) who have brought their food traditions (including sausage-making) to both our countries. We have plenty of hot dogs in Australia, but they are not as popular as in the USA. Whereas the meat pie and the sausage roll are more popular in Australia than in the USA. For a description of Australian's compulsory voting on Wikipedia, see [2]. I know from my visits to the USA that compulsory voting seems very strange to Americans, but it has been operating for so long in Australia that it is completely normal to us. To me, the 15-30 minutes on average each year needed to cast my vote seems a small price to pay to have a true democracy. Plus I get to eat a democracy sausage, purchase lamingtons and other cakes, jams (jellies), etc sold by community groups as fund-raisers, bump into people I haven't seen for a while and catch up with them, etc. Everyone know the rules about not being political in a polling station so everyone is just friendly with each other. It's all very pleasant. Yes, $2 or $3 sounds about right but these are Australian dollars not US dollars so more like US $1.50 to US $2.00. You don't have to buy a democracy sausage but it's become part of the ritual for a lot of us. A lot of people post selfies on social media of them eating a democracy sausage. Kerry Raymond (talk) 08:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

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