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♫♫ Leitoxx ♪♪ 22:06, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
- Why did you revert the permission information here: [1]? Do you want to mark the permission ticket invalid and delete this file? Ankry (talk) 08:49, 19 May 2014 (UTC) (OTRS team member)
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—LX (talk, contribs) 23:13, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Hi LX. The photo I uploaded was sent me, by email, by the only copyright holder who is the subject in the image too. The photo was taken by one of the collaborators of Daniele Radini Tedeschi using Daniele's camera and under his request. Nobody, except Daniele Radini Tedeschi, may claim the rights about this picture in internet. Greetings--Ugo Bongarzoni (talk) 15:53, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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Yours sincerely, Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 02:05, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
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Hasty cancellation
editMy dear Hedwig in Washington,are you well?, I was sending (at now in Italy is night) to <permissions-commons@wikimedia.org> the emails with the permission to upload of the co-owner copyright of the two playbills and you deleted the two images togheter, just in two minutes. I have to upload them before sending the permission mail with their links.......What's now ?--Ugo Bongarzoni (talk) 02:38, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- You have cancelled all images I uploaded ! The image of my artwork Medusa too, about whitch only I own all copyrights. It seems to be a sort of malice.--Ugo Bongarzoni (talk) 02:55, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- !? All my posts are signed...--Ugo Bongarzoni (talk) 03:13, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
I can't understand
editI'm the artist who create this artwork "Medusa"
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Why you have cancelled this images? I can't understand...--Ugo Bongarzoni (talk) 03:27, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- For every image you cancelled I sent an email with the permission to upload it... I don't understand...--Ugo Bongarzoni (talk) 03:33, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
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Vituzzu (talk) 15:18, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Richieste di cancellazione foto caricate
editBuonasera Vituzzu. Dal tuo nickname sembri italiano (siciliano?) e ti scriverò in italiano. Ho visto tutte le tue richieste di cancellazione e riguardano tutte copertine di cataloghi di libri d'arte che ho caricato in Wikipedia inviando per email i relativi permessi di pubblicazione da parte di chi li ha creati e pubblicati. Quindi volevo capire il perché di tali richieste. Un saluto .--Ugo Bongarzoni (talk) 02:51, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
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editCiao, il problema non è il copyright ma il fatto che detto in maniera un po' spicciola quelle foto sono "inutili" per i progetti WMF. In buona sostanza non saranno mai inclusi in alcuna pagina su nessun progetto. Alla fine magari ce le teniamo perché un sacco di gente pensa che qui si debbano tenere persino tonnellate di foto sfocate di piedi, ma sempre inutili rimarranno. --Vituzzu (talk) 19:27, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
- Può darsi e può darsi anche no. Il fatto è che non ho caricato su Wikimedia Commons foto di piedi sfocate ma pubblicazioni di arte contemporanea con tanto di codice ISBN, presenti anche in librerie di questo paese culturalmente devastato. Magari in questo momento potranno non servire ma in un futuro prossimo si e forse sono testimonianza del fatto che siamo ancora vivi in quel settore senza dover andare indietro nel tempo di un secolo. Inoltre se il criterio di condivisione immagini in Wikimedia Commons fosse l'utilizzo immediato e non il presunto contenuto culturale almeno metà dei file dovrebbe essere proposto per la cancellazione. Ma penso di aver fatto affermazioni ovvie. Un saluto --94.160.252.93 23:20, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
- Ma niente di tutto ciò rientra fra gli scopi di commons. Il web è pieno di posti dove tenere immagini senza problemi, commons invece non è un hosting. A margine la mera copertina non ha alcun valore. --Vituzzu (talk) 19:22, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
- Come già ho detto sono immagini di testi di arte contemporanea associati ad eventi non proprio "minori", in altrettanti luoghi di effettiva importanza storica e politica, a Roma, nel Lazio ed all'estero come puoi vedere dalle informazioni che ho aggiunto, e non immagini personali qualsiasi di contenuto vario. Sono di interesse enciclopedico in quanto pubblicazioni di arte contemporanea. Se Wikimedia Commons non contemplasse l'arte contemporanea allora avresti ragione, ma non è così. Cito testualmente " Wikimedia Commons (chiamato anche Commons) è un archivio di immagini digitali, suoni ed altri file multimediali con licenza libera.[1] I file inviati a questo archivio possono essere usati direttamente da tutti gli altri progetti che si trovano sui server Wikimedia, inclusi Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikinews, Wikispecies, come se fossero caricati localmente su ogni singolo progetto .." . Hai notato il verbo "possono"? E non "devono"....E comunque ripeto che sono immagini di volumi di arte contemporanea, di interesse enciclopedico per chi la ama, e saranno di arte moderna fra un centinaio di anni. Posso chiederti (è una curiosità personale) che titolo di studio hai e cosa pensi dell'arte contemporanea ? --94.161.66.69 23:53, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
- Assolutamente no, sono *copertine* di cataloghi di mostre per la verità di peso abbastanza basso. Non sono arte e non danno alcuna informazione e infatti non saranno mai usate sulle wiki. Comunque puoi mettere un solo {{vk}}, i commenti relativi li lascio la i simboletti in eccesso li ho già levati due volte. Occhio inoltre a non intervenire con e senza aver effettuato l'accesso, se avessi voluto sfruttare il fatto che hai "votato" tre volte da registrato e una da non registrato non sarebbe stata una violazione banale del regolamento, non l'ho fatto perché mi rendo conto che si è trattato di un errore.
- Comunque rimarranno perché qui per tradizione non si butta niente, ma mi chiedo come mai hai scelto Commons invece di Flickr o simili, io ci sono arrivato solo ed esclusivamente perché mi è capitata una delle tue richieste di autorizzazione e sono andato a rimbalzarla proprio perché non sono immagini utilizzabili da nessuna parte. --Vituzzu (talk) 01:33, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
- Come già ho detto sono immagini di testi di arte contemporanea associati ad eventi non proprio "minori", in altrettanti luoghi di effettiva importanza storica e politica, a Roma, nel Lazio ed all'estero come puoi vedere dalle informazioni che ho aggiunto, e non immagini personali qualsiasi di contenuto vario. Sono di interesse enciclopedico in quanto pubblicazioni di arte contemporanea. Se Wikimedia Commons non contemplasse l'arte contemporanea allora avresti ragione, ma non è così. Cito testualmente " Wikimedia Commons (chiamato anche Commons) è un archivio di immagini digitali, suoni ed altri file multimediali con licenza libera.[1] I file inviati a questo archivio possono essere usati direttamente da tutti gli altri progetti che si trovano sui server Wikimedia, inclusi Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikinews, Wikispecies, come se fossero caricati localmente su ogni singolo progetto .." . Hai notato il verbo "possono"? E non "devono"....E comunque ripeto che sono immagini di volumi di arte contemporanea, di interesse enciclopedico per chi la ama, e saranno di arte moderna fra un centinaio di anni. Posso chiederti (è una curiosità personale) che titolo di studio hai e cosa pensi dell'arte contemporanea ? --94.161.66.69 23:53, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Come ti ho detto, io do all'arte contemporanea una certa valenza (non nulla come molti fanno). Quando gli eventi artistici sono ospitati non in banali gallerie, che sono oramai affitta-pareti, ma nei luoghi che ho nominato nei miei commenti, di particolare interesse storico o museale, hanno un tema importante dal punto di vista storico-sociale e vedono la partecipazione di critici, storici dell'arte, e di artisti ultraottuagenari la cui biografia è già presente nella stessa Wikipedia e che sono ben noti anche all'estero, allora, mi premuro di caricare su WIKIMEDIA le foto delle copertine, ma lo faccio sperando di dare un contributo, non certo per far pubblicità (per quello c'è Facebook che è molto efficace). Il tuo dubbio sul perché ho scelto Wikimedia e non un social dovrebbe portarti proprio a questa conclusione. Sulla valenza di questi eventi poi, ti esorto ad avere il beneficio del dubbio, soprattutto perché il contenuto di questi testi non è evidente e potrebbe stupirti. Quanto poi all'utilizzo eventuale, valuta che, forse, fra un centinaio d'anni qualcuno su Wikipedia penserà (solo perché è passato del tempo e non perché si intenda d'arte) che forse un significato questi caricamenti l'hanno avuto, magari solo quello di testimoniare che qualcuno nel 2016 ha creato arte, in un periodo di depressione economica pesante, mentre il resto d'Italia pensava solo alla pagnotta quotidiana, rischiando ogni giorno di morire di fame, e non parlo solo per me, ma anche per gente contenuta in quei libri di cui stiamo parlando che negli anni '60 aveva quotazioni di 20-30 milioni delle vecchie lire a dipinto, e che oggi, vive al limite della povertà e continua comunque a dipingere e scolpire. La condizione di Vincent oggi è comune a moltissimi artisti, quanto agli eventi che tu chiami "maggiori" (alludo, per esempio, ad una certa biennale lagunare) si presentano come "ad invito" ma hanno un costo (circa 20.000 euro a crosta), a meno di essere il mediocre pittore morto padre di un certo attore italo-americano. Queste cose che ti racconto non sono frutto di fantasie ma fanno parte della mia piccola esperienza nel campo. Quanto all'utilità amo ricordare la frase di un certo Oscar Wilde nella prefazione del suo romanzo più noto, "Il ritratto di Dorian Gray" : La diversità di opinioni intorno a un'opera d'arte dimostra che l'opera è nuova, complessa e vitale. Possiamo perdonare a un uomo l'aver fatto una cosa utile se non l'ammira. L'unica scusa per aver fatto una cosa inutile è di ammirarla intensamente. Tutta l'arte è completamente inutile.
E qui hai piena ragione, ignoravo (è la prima volta che utilizzo {{vk}}) di poter usare una sola volta il simbolo, pensavo fosse solo descrittivo del tipo di giudizio (tenere o cancellare) e non che costituisse "punteggio" ai fini della discussione ma sapevo, per esempio, che si potesse commentare anche senza aver effettuato l'accesso ( non c'è una corrispondenza diretta fra l'utente ed il numero di registro ?, il PC è lo stesso ed anche il server). Non era difficile capire comunque che ero sempre io, ho anche fatto modifiche ai vari interventi e firmato più volte, dopo aver effettuato l'accesso, a distanza di 10 minuti, comunque correttezza tua che hai capito ed agito di conseguenza. Un saluto --Ugo Bongarzoni (talk) 04:10, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
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