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CAT:LR experiencing high backlogEdit

Hello admins (and license-reviewers monitoring this page),

We're currently at CAT:LR with 4028 files waiting for us as of the time I save this page.

4000 files stuck in the queue for few months are not good, so please help to empty the queue. Thanks! — regards, Revi 18:37, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Just for reference sake, 3,300 of them are videos. Videos take a lot longer to review since there are multiple parts that all have to comply with licensing standards and you have to actually watch the videos (or at the very least scroll through them). It seems like we have a lot of people scrapping YouTube for any and all Creative Commons licensed vidoes and uploading them here. Regardless of whether or not they are actually useful in any way. --Majora (talk) 22:11, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Currently at 4688 images. — regards, Revi 08:02, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Bad Flickr accountEdit

Please add 8527875@N04 to Commons:Questionable Flickr images/Users.

Twitter may or may not have been the actual source, but everything on that account looks iffy. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 06:57, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

I just had to bring this thread back from the dead. It was not done. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 19:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Bad Flickr account 2Edit

Please add 48973657@N00 to Commons:Questionable Flickr images/Users.

While it has a CC-BY-SA license, the description says (not just for this photo):

"You may syndicate this content for non-commercial purposes as long as you attribute credits to me. Commercial usage will be considered on a case-by-case basis."

So it's actually more like CC-BY-SA-NC. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 19:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with insource:"48973657@N00". - Alexis Jazz ping plz 20:27, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

A file needs to be reviewed & Remove tag!Edit


A file had a bug, Was corrected and now it needs to be reviewed by reviewer like this and Remove tag. can anyone help me?

thanks, Seyyedalith (talk) 20:39, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

@Seyyedalith: I see too much text in too little space in the bottom right corner, such that I can't read all the English text and separate it from the other text.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 07:17, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: Was corrected. sincerely, Seyyedalith (talk) 19:07, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Why does not anyone do anything? Seyyedalith (talk) 05:39, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

(formerly) empty category restoreEdit

Hi! As the deleting admin (User:Klemen Kocjancic) is not active recently, can anyone please restore the Category:14-03 (aircraft)? Many Thanks! -- Meisam (talk) 13:40, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

✓  Done . --Túrelio (talk) 13:47, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Incorrect value of Sitelinks parameter in Wikidata InfoboxEdit

My default language is Belarusian Taraškievica (be-tarask), so in Wikidate Infobox I see the information in Belarusian Taraškievica. But if I want to read the article in Belarusian Taraškievica Wikipedia ( and click on link "Вікіпэдыя" (the name of Wikipedia in Belarusian Taraškievica) it leads me to the corresponding article in Belarusian Wikipedia ( It seems like there is an issue with Sitelinks parameter in Wikidate Infobox. Could you please help me to fix this issue? --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 19:04, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

@Kazimier Lachnovič: This is very odd. It looks like the problem is with {{BaseLang}}, which returns "be" rather than "be-tarask" (which is correct for the case of "en-gb" -> "en", but not here). @RexxS: can you have a look at this please? (For reference: the sitelinks are generated by {{#invoke:Wikidata2|getSiteLink|{{BaseLang}}wiki|qid=Q2}} -> Earth Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:31, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
@Kazimier Lachnovič, Mike Peel: there's an issue with {{BaseLang}}, but also with the way the MediaWiki software works. We need to map from the user's language to what is called the "globalSiteId" for that wiki. For both en and en-gb, the correct globalSiteId is enwiki, but for be-tarask, it is not bewiki. After some trial and error (because of the non-existent documentation for globalSiteId), I eventually worked out that the globalSiteId for be-tarask is "be_x_oldwiki". I'll write a quick and dirty hack to map the code "be-tarask" to "be_x_oldwiki" as an exception.
  • {{#invoke:Wikidata2|getSiteLink|{{BaseLang}}wiki|qid=Q2}} → Earth
  • {{#invoke:Wikidata2/sandbox|getSiteLink|{{BaseLang/sandbox}}wiki|qid=Q2}} → Earth
  • {{BaseLang}} → en
  • {{BaseLang/sandbox}} → en
If that looks ok, would one of you copy the contents of Module:Wikidata2/sandbox over Module:Wikidata2, please? Or ping me and I'll do it if you're satisfied. Let me know if problems arise. --RexxS (talk) 18:29, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
@RexxS: I did the replacement, but e.g. for Category:Church of Vitaut the Great, Hrodna the result was [1]. So I tried to replace "be_x_old" with "be-x-old" and the link just disappeared from infobox. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 19:18, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
@Kazimier Lachnovič: The globalSiteId for code "be-tarask" is "be_x_oldwiki", and I've checked that. There is no globalSiteId with the value "be-x-old", so there will be no link and if you try to use that, it will disappear of course. The problem now lies in Template:Wikidata Infobox, I think.
@Mike Peel: I believe that the infobox employs a hack using {{BaseLang}} to create different values: (1) the globalSiteId such as enwiki used in getSiteLink; (2) the language code such as en used to create an interproject link. I note that there is also the possibility of creating urls such as, but I haven't seen those. The general pattern for most languages is that the globalSiteId is created by appending "-wiki" (or "-wikiquote", etc.) to the basic language code (e.g. en instead of en-gb), so de gives dewiki, dewikisource, etc. Unfortunately, for old-style Belorussian, the code returned by {{int:lang}} is "be-tarask", but the globalSiteId is "be_x_oldwiki", and the language code is "be-x-old", while the site url is "". That means we can't use {{BaseLang}} for both getSiteLink and the interproject link (nor the site url if we ever needed it). Some documentation is at meta:Special language codes.
Now, I've tried to work out the 'Sitelinks' code in {Wikidata Infobox}, but it looks broken to me. Here's what I see if I unpack the clump of code:
	{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |{{BaseLang}}wiki |qid={{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }}
	{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |{{BaseLang}}wikiquote |qid{{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }}
	{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |{{BaseLang}}wikisource |qid{{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }}
	{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |specieswiki |qid{{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }}
	{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |{{BaseLang}}wikivoyage |qid={{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }}
	<tr><td colspan=2 style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;">
		{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |{{BaseLang}}wiki |qid={{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }}
		[[:{{BaseLang}}:{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |{{BaseLang}}wiki |qid={{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }}
		{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getLabel |Q52}}]]
		{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |{{BaseLang}}wikiquote |qid={{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }}
		<br />[[:wikiquote:{{BaseLang}}:{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |{{BaseLang}}wikiquote |qid={{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }} |{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getLabel |Q369}}]]
		{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |{{BaseLang}}wikisource |qid={{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }}
		<br />[[:wikisource:{{BaseLang}}:{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |{{BaseLang}}wikisource |qid={{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }} 
		{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getLabel |Q263}}]]
		{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |specieswiki |qid={{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }}
		<br />[[:species:{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |specieswiki |qid={{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }}
		{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getLabel |Q13679}}]]
		{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |{{BaseLang}}wikivoyage |qid={{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }}
		<br />[[:wikivoyage:{{BaseLang}}:{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |{{BaseLang}}wikivoyage |qid={{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }}
		{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getLabel |Q373}}]]
It looks to me that you've got links [[ ]] broken across the then and else parts of several {#if: } statements. or am I not reading them correctly?
My apologies, but I have to sort out the forked version of WikidataIB on enwiki first, then I'll add two new functions to map the base language code to the root of the globalSiteId and to the interproject-link code. You'll be able to use those to create the proper links for be-tarask and others. --RexxS (talk) 21:30, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
@RexxS: The | you're seeing is part of the wikilink, not the if statement. So e.g., [[:wikivoyage:{{BaseLang}}:{{#invoke:Wikidata2 |getSiteLink |{{BaseLang}}wikivoyage |qid={{getQID |qid={{{qid|}}} }} }}|{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getLabel |Q373}}]] is all inside the if statement. (If that wasn't the case, then it wouldn't work!) If there could be a neater way of implementing this, that would be nice though! Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:39, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
BTW, I think there's an ongoing migration of be_x_old to be-tarask. Try searching for 'be-tarask' on phabricator and you'll find a bunch of tickets about it. So maybe it's best to report this inconsistency there and ask for it to be solved by the WMF devs, rather than adding exceptions for the case here... Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:43, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
The WMF devs? Give me a break. I'd like to see it done sometime in this lifetime. There are multiple exceptions, according to meta:Special language codes, so it makes sense to me to bundle those up inside an opaque Lua function (with a wrapper template of course) so that we can deal with exceptions as they come to our attention without any further re-writes of the infobox code. I'll have them done soon. --RexxS (talk) 21:53, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB|siteID}}wiki → enwiki
  • :{{#invoke:WikidataIB|projID}}: → :en:
  • {{siteID}}wiki → enwiki
  • :{{projID}}:: → :en:
Done. --RexxS (talk) 22:45, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
@RexxS: OK, is this implementation correct? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:53, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
Possibly, Mike. I mean it looks right to me, but I think I'd rather wait for Kazimier Lachnovič to tell us whether it's giving the correct sitelinks for him now. --RexxS (talk) 22:58, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
@RexxS: Should I modify some code? Because for now the problem didn't gone. E.g. for Category:Earth the link "Wikipedia" in Infobox leads to [2] instead of [3]. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 09:48, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
@Kazimier Lachnovič: Can you test this version please? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 10:31, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
@Mike Peel: This version works well. Thank you! --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 10:35, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
@Kazimier Lachnovič: OK, the new infobox version is now live. If you see the wrong link again, then try clearing your cache (?action=purge at the end of the URL), and if it still doesn't work then let us know. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 11:26, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Everything is OK. Thanks a lot for your help! --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 11:34, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Missing rules in Mobile.cssEdit

Please, someone of you copy these rules for geo coordinates from MediaWiki:Common.css to MediaWiki:Mobile.css:

/* Geographical coordinates defaults. See [[Template:Coord/link]]
 for how these are used. The classes "geo", "longitude", and
 "latitude" are used by the [[Geo microformat]].
.geo-default, .geo-dms, .geo-dec { display: inline; }
.geo-nondefault, .geo-multi-punct { display: none; }
.longitude, .latitude { white-space: nowrap; }

And by the way you could also fix the typo paramter in Mobile.css.

Because these are missing all coordinates are shown twice in mobile view, cf. examples in Template:Inline coordinates in desktop and mobile mode.

I did not use {{Edit request}} because the according category Commons protected edit requests has not been processed for months (a request of mine is from 22 March this year).
— Speravir – 22:44, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

✓  Done --Steinsplitter (talk) 13:34, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

File names need to be swappedEdit

This seems a bit too complicated to fix with the permissions of a normal user:

For verification of what Marina Elliott looks like, see [4] and [5]. For Becca Peixotto, see [6].

I could try to swap the JPG pictures by uploading new versions of each file, but I don't know if I'm supposed to upload completely new images over the old ones. The PNG of Ms. Peixotto looks like an inferior duplicate of the JPG, but at least it's named correctly. Should the PNG be deleted as a duplicate, changed to a redirect, or kept? And could someone swap the names of the two JPG images? Philbert2.71828 03:38, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

@Philbert2.71828:, maybe this image can be helpful. Face-smile.svg Lotje (talk) 04:50, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
I decided to swap the images by uploading new versions of each one. I don't know I was supposed to do it that way, but it means that all three files are named correctly now. The file histories of File:Becca Peixotto.jpg and File:Marina Elliott.jpg now show that the images were swapped. I think this is resolved, unless I wasn't supposed to do it that way. Philbert2.71828 12:19, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Database errors while processing deletion requestsEdit

I get database errors (DBQueryError) while trying to process the following two deletion requests:

I'll just leave this here as a reminder that their processing (removing/adding templates in the former case, deletion in the latter case) is unfinished. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 11:55, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

✓  DoneYann (talk) 12:47, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

my user name was changed and my page showing all my photos together is gone.Edit

Hi, I originally made my account under my name, Dave Bunnell. I've made a lot of photo contributions, and had them all organized on a wiki page. A year or more ago I have my user name changed by some admin to Dave Bunnell~commonswiki and apparently now my page showing all my images by category is gone in a puff of smoke. Or is it, this has discouraged me from contributing further to the commons and I see a number of places I can fill a niche.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dave Bunnell~commonswiki (talk • contribs) 19:40, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
@Dave Bunnell~commonswiki: Please see the last two sections on your talk page. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 19:52, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
@Dave Bunnell~commonswiki: There is account Dave Bunnell~commonswiki created on 21st January 2007 and there is also account Dave Bunnell created on 19th May 2016, after the first account was renamed. Looking at subjects of the photos uploaded from these accounts I would say that both are yours. Perhaps they could be merged. You should contact a steward in this topic. --jdx Re: 20:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Account merging was never really available to the masses and at this point in time probably never will be. Account renaming however is a possibility. --Majora (talk) 20:35, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Is it not possible to just ignore entirely the User:Dave Bunnell~commonswiki account and log in using the User:Dave Bunnell account? The photos are credited to the User:Dave Bunnell account, all of them in the file descriptions and all-but-28 of them the wiki software (which credits the ~commonswiki account for the upload). You have edited using User:Dave Bunnell post-rename (you edited using it in 2017)... did you just inadvertently log in using the wrong account now? We need more spelunkers contributing photos, so please don't be too discouraged... we can probably find a solution that you'll be happy with. Storkk (talk) 20:59, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Video deletedEdit

Hi File:Kylie Jenner2.png is a free photo. But the video have been deleted by the owner of the YouTube channel. What is the solution ? I know that for YT or Flickr when the licence is changed the file remains free. --Panam2014 (talk) 15:31, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

There is a license review so I would not worry myself. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 15:39, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
@Sjoerddebruin: please see that archive. I have uploaded the file and the reviwer have seen the file. --Panam2014 (talk) 15:40, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Uploaded a new version of a video, but the old version plays, insteadEdit

File:7. user sandbox+ prepare library's article templates.webm.

Thank you,--ManosHacker (talk) 06:29, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

@ManosHacker: This isn't an administrative problem. It is your cache. This is a rather common occurrence. Hold down the shift key and press F5 to ignore your cache while reloading the file information page and it will be fine. --Majora (talk) 06:33, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, Majora. Shift F5 had not worked, but manually clearing the browser's cache did.--ManosHacker (talk) 06:40, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Out of scope?Edit

Hi, can someone take a look at these contributions? Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 04:29, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Deleted, blocked (a long history of spam using multiple accounts). Materialscientist (talk) 04:45, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Materialscientist, Special:Contributions/Wso.louise might be another one I think. Best, --Achim (talk) 14:06, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

"Missing evidence of permission" On File:S133e006372 Stitch Stitch.jpg From Admin who doesn't Understand NASA Copy RightEdit

I recently uploaded an image I created in 2011 of the Space shuttle Discovery and the International Space Station created using multiple stitched screen captures I took at the time from NASATV. I added the NASA licensing to the image as it was derived from their channel, however they give permission for use as seen here:

NASA copyright release: "NASA content - images, audio, video, and computer files used in the rendition of 3-dimensional models, such as texture maps and polygon data in any format - generally are not copyrighted. You may use this material for educational or informational purposes, including photo collections, textbooks, public exhibits, computer graphical simulations and Internet Web pages. This general permission extends to personal Web pages.

News outlets, schools, and text-book authors may use NASA content without needing explicit permission. NASA content used in a factual manner that does not imply endorsement may be used without needing explicit permission. NASA should be acknowledged as the source of the material. NASA occasionally uses copyrighted material by permission on its website. Those images will be marked copyright with the name of the copyright holder. NASA's use does not convey any rights to others to use the same material. Those wishing to use copyrighted material must contact the copyright holder directly."

I HAve mentioned this to the admin, but they continue to refuse to release the "Missing evidence of permission: hold on the file.

@Ronsmytheiii:If the file regarding is from NASA, then please provide us a link to that image. What I am concerning at that time is that the file lacks a verifiable source to NASA, and other users cannot prove it is from NASA.廣九直通車 (talk) 00:34, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Again, the image used NASATV footage, of which I screen captured and stitched together myself. There is no link to the Image as I made it myself. Ronsmytheiii (talk) 05:28, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

OK, I originally thought that NASA TV is some sort of YouTube channel owned by NASA. After searching for some more information, I think that the issue about the source is better to be asked on COM:VPC, as more experienced users may provide assistance.廣九直通車 (talk) 07:16, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
So the admin doesn't have enough experience, but still leave the lock/deletion flag on? I think I have more than documented fair use for this file. I have covered NASA for years, and know their copyright, plus it is mentioned right on the media guidelines that I provided!
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronsmytheiii (talk • contribs) 20:06, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Fair-use material is not allowed on Commons; it needs to be uploaded locally, if the project allows it, such as :en. --Túrelio (talk) 20:18, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
廣九直通車 is not an admin ("So the admin doesn't have enough experience, but still leave the lock/deletion flag on?") This is the Administrators' noticeboard; exactly what admin intervention is required here? And how do you reconcile your position with COM:EVID? Эlcobbola talk 20:22, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) First of all, 廣九直通車 is not an administrator but a regular editor, but they were totally right to tag the image. We need verifiable evidence such as links to the actual NASA TV footage of this mission which you used for your combined image. You are of course right that original NASA works are in the public domain, but you as the uploader need to provide evidence and not just assertions that your work does not infringe upon any possible copyrights. Moreover, we don't allow fair use images here at all, so why did you think that this was relevant? So, blaming 廣九直通車 for being inexperienced where you were clearly at fault is a no-go. As there are hardly any private photographers out there who could possibly claim copyright for these original images I do believe that this is NASA material, but please try to find the original TV footage so we can verify your claim. De728631 (talk) 20:25, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
For someone familiar with the material, this is an obvious situation. Works created by NASA are in the public domain, without exception. Regarding this image, the only question is who created it (NASA, Roscosmos, ESA, or JAXA). It can easily be determined to 1) be from a camera on the International Space Station P6 Truss segment, which is owned by NASA and 2) was broadcast on NASA TV (the network bug is visible bottom left). De728631, I'm unaware of publicly available archives of live NASA TV footage, so your request is likely impossible. Huntster (t @ c) 00:10, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Alright, thank you for clarifying the matter. This "bug" logo may also serve as evidence of origin. So unless anyone objects, I'm going to pass the original PD status. De728631 (talk) 00:19, 19 June 2018 (UTC)