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Autopatrol given

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Copyright status: File:Zodiac Z340 key.png

Copyright status: File:Zodiac Z340 key.png

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Yours sincerely, Ahmad^talk 21:38, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

I understand what you mean. I just don't have a way to contact the creator of that YouTube video, and sadly I'm too lazy to create my own Z340 key after that screenshot. But I'll have you know that I took that screenshot, if it's any consolation. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 01:11, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Brave (1) girl

I've just googled her and found a little discussion on Reddit from a few years ago! No Swan So Fine (talk) 13:17, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

@No Swan So Fine: And here's a clipping I painstakingly acquired from Newspapers.com without a subscription or any hacking tools. (The full page's thumbnail is here, the article with OCR is here.) Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 14:48, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

That's incredible! That writer really paints a picture of their meeting, love the details of his desk toys. Let's team up and flog this story to Netflix. $$$ No Swan So Fine (talk) 17:45, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Is this her? Dates seem to match up. Probably not if she lost her maiden name. She made the NYT!. And she got a scholarship as well. No Swan So Fine (talk) 17:54, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

COM:AN/U

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--Túrelio (talk) 09:18, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Túrelio: can you please tell Surjection that I'm sorry for pestering him, but I wish he'd (at the very least) give me advice like what was given here and here, and/or unblock my en.wikt account from the "User talk" namespace. Being unable to edit my own talkpage there is fine, but I don't want to be blocked from leaving messages on other users' en.wikt talkpages. I mean, Surjection has a lot of messages from worse abusers on his en.wikt talkpage, so why can't I leave such a message?

Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 16:37, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

What part of drop it do you not understand? You've been blocked on the English Wikipedia for pushing it, and yet you persist here; I would have no plans on ever unblocking you on the English Wiktionary for that alone.--Prosfilaes (talk) 17:34, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

@Prosfilaes: Don't worry, I have absolutely no further intention of persisting about that issue here.
But, seriously―why isn't there an equivalent of WP:LTA either on Commons or on English Wiktionary? 'Cause I think there should be. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 17:37, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Oh, and by the way, @GeneralNotability: ― can you please not lock me on en.wiki or anywhere else? There's a sockfarm list at my Commons page. Also, I would like you to add "[[Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Angela Criss]]" to User:PvtHudson III and User:PvtHudson IV. Thank you. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 18:18, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

It's quite easy to get me to stop blocking your socks on enwiki: stop making them. GeneralNotability (talk) 18:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

@GeneralNotability: That's fine by me. I don't plan to register any more of those anyway. Cheerio! Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 18:42, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

File:SAKURAKO gazes at the menu at the OJ Coffee x TANITA Cafe. (49505960723).jpg

File:SAKURAKO gazes at the menu at the OJ Coffee x TANITA Cafe. (49505960723).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Headlock0225 (talk) 03:42, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

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Affected:

• File:I am keeping drinking to a minimum! (31152631461).jpg
• File:SAKIKO - Glad to see you!. (23789987453).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO - Boat pier. (9325538199).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO - Boater. (6986018442).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO - Boater. (7132111461).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO - cafe & bar "chant". (10904811285).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO - Cafe Mar. (11625693563).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO - Cake lover! (18896610155).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO - Go boating! (7137287471).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO - It's time for breakfast. (5770781259).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO - Jojo's cafe. (9725058484).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO - Let me see! (14969263907).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO - OJ Coffee x TANITA Cafe. (49506468136).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO - Picture Diary (24416840385).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO and boat. (6991164500).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO and SAKIKO - LeTAO PATHOS. (51756404438).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO and SAKIKO - Sister line. (40093357495).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO and SAKIKO - We went to a nearby cafe. (51691639362).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO boards a boat. (9325533007).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO gazes at the menu at the OJ Coffee x TANITA Cafe. (49505960723).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO rests in a cafe. (6979243835).jpg

Yours sincerely, Syunsyunminmin (talk) 06:48, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Copying descriptions from Flickr

Flickr import tools may copy descriptions from Flickr, but human reviewers should remove anything that’s not relevant. For example, they should remove affiliate links like the one added in Special:Diff/687047369. Brianjd (talk) 10:26, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

@Brianjd: Oh. I apologize for that one; that file was uploaded when COM:F2C didn't exist yet, so the Flickr description hadn't gotten copied over before I edited that file.

(That is also why its infobox had

|source=https://www.flickr.com/photos/mujitra/2577545028/sizes/o/in/photostream/

|author=https://www.flickr.com/photos/mujitra/

rather than

|source=[https://www.flickr.com/photos/mujitra/2577545028/ Sapporo Festival. (2008)]

|author=[https://www.flickr.com/people/7940758@N07 MIKI Yoshihito] from Sapporo City, Hokkaido, Japan

beforehand.) Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 15:46, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes, it was uploaded in 2013. It is good that you copied all the stuff that F2C would normally copy automatically; I just think you should have omitted the link when doing so.

While we are discussing this file, I have nominated it for deletion as a possible violation of COM:CSCR#Japan. Thoughts? Brianjd (talk) 05:42, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't know....I mean, Flickr DID let its photographer (a Japanese citizen) upload it without asking him to, say, blur out any faces or file it as "All rights reserved" (as opposed to the "Some rights reserved" required for COM:F2C to work).

(Think of how, in China, Google has to comply with Chinese censorship laws, since its owners deem it "better to offer censored results than nothing at all".) Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 14:31, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Good points. Brianjd (talk) 14:35, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

COM:AN/U

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Floquenbeam (talk) 21:47, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Stop putting towns in Australia into cities in Australia related categories

Please do your research before creating categories! Placing town related categories into cities in Australia related categories is just plain wrong and incorrect. Towns and cities are two very different things. 119.18.0.15 09:30, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

That may be true, but AFAIK when it comes to Category:Cities in Australia by year/decade/century or Category:History of Australia by city, towns always get categorized as if they were cities.

And I am not the first to do this--if you would check the revision history of some of the other categories you removed from the cities-in-Australia-related categories, you would know that Kgbo (who's an Australian like you, while I am a Usonian) has also done so.

And you shouldn't have re-added Category:Coolamon, New South Wales to those images I transferred to 1999 in Coolamon, NSW or May 2010 in Coolamon, NSW. It's really redundant to have a file in both "Category:Such-and-such" AND "Category:Year in such-and-such", since 2008 in Coolamon, NSW is a sub-sub-category of Coolamon, NSW. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 16:31, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Photographs are always going to have to related categories regardless! If someone is wanting a photograph of a war memorial, they are not going to look in every month by year category!

Kgbo isn't an Australian, they are Polish, they have zero understanding of Australian copyright or categorisation. Categorising towns as cities is rubbish. Please leave Australian photographs alone. 119.18.0.15 05:31, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

I thank you for creating Category:Coolamon War Memorial. But I'm curious-- have you considered signing up for an account yet?

And while Kgbo may have been born in Poland, he lives in Australia now (Queensland, specifically). And he's uploaded several photographs of Australia (and people in Australia) that he took, so why do you claim he has "zero understanding of Australian copyright or categorisation"?? Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 15:50, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

volodarsk

Shāntián Tàiláng talk contribs‎ 6,332 bytes +64‎ +Category:Sediments in Russia; +Category:Erosion in Russia. Be more accurate Albedo (talk) 18:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Albedo, could you please provide which page(s) I edited in that way? And that looks like poorly disguised copypasting to me. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 20:46, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I see. (Shame for the enormous delay in response, but I only just found out what file you were talking about. Man, ya really coulda saved me some time searching...*groan*)

And it's not "volodarsk", it's File:Volodars'kyi district, Kyivs'ka oblast, Ukraine - panoramio (3).jpg. And that diff should have been pasted like this:

   In this edit, you added Category:Sediments in Russia and Erosion in Russia to a photo taken in Ukraine. Be more accurate.

See what I mean?! Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 19:02, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Blocked by Yann (lifted by Taivo)

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--Yann (talk) 16:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Unblock request granted This blocked user asked to be unblocked, and one or more administrators has reviewed and granted this request. Request reason: "Uh, @Yann, Prosfilaes, Túrelio, GeneralNotability, and Jmabel: isn't it totally legitimate to edit from your IP, an alternative account, or even an undisclosed or secret alt in general (as Svartava told me once)? Just that one should not edit while blocked on their main account, that is, not evade a block or double vote. Since I have not been doing block-evading OR double-voting on Commons, I think an indefinite block is rather unfair. And what's disruptive about soliciting proxy edits on my behalf (especially since Lugria & Eirikr never ever complained about it)? Look at WP:PROXYING: it doesn't say you are forbidden from editing on behalf of a blocked editor, just that you have to ensure the changes are verifiable or productive. And to me, the addition of a category is always productive as long as it's an appropriate category. On Wiktionary, for instance, that'd be putting a word meaning "macaque" in Category:LANG:Monkeys and NOT in Category:LANG:Bovines. And what is the best way to bring off-wiki discussions that involve wikis that I'm blocked from (and therefore can't discuss about properly on that wiki)??? Surely there must be a way to do so without being disruptive! Trust me, I feel really terrible and heartsick about tagging Surjection in that edit summary and getting blocked here. But I was at the end of my patience with those rollbacks at that time. No, I really do NOT think that that last sentence justifies what I did; it merely helps others understand why I did it. And please tell me if there is any possible chance of me getting unblocked from Commons (whether within the next few days, or at all). Because I worked with HotCat and Cat-a-lot quite a lot, and I really want to avoid fighting with off-wiki users here (I just don't know how to properly communicate to them regarding off-wiki things that I wish they'd do). Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 18:45, 11 April 2023 (UTC)" Unblock reason: "After looking at your accounts page, I will unblock you on three conditions: You will not create more accounts. You will not ping anybody. You will not speak about what happened or should happen on Wiktionary. You must pretend that Wiktionary does not exist and has never existed. After one year, you can request lifting the ping and Wiktionary conditions. Taivo (talk) 08:29, 12 April 2023 (UTC) @Taivo: OK, but am I allowed to ask Commons users to translate any non-English text in the description of certain images, like the Japanese text in the description of File:SAKURAKO is infected with The Adeno-Virus! (14777136673).jpg or ? And am I also allowed to ask somebody like User:Chuck Entz which other WMF-wiki users (NOT extra accounts of mine) are on the IP ranges Special:Contributions/2600:1003:B400:0:0:0:0:0/40 and Special:Contributions/72.82.32.0/19? (Because those are ranges that I've used before on other WMF wikis.) Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 17:24, 12 April 2023 (UTC)" This template should be archived normally.

(Block log) (unblock) (Change local status for a global block) (contribs)

Absolutely not! Telling what uninvolved accounts are using those IP ranges would be an invasion of their privacy and a violation of the privacy policy. There's simply no reason you need to know that. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:07, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Chuck Entz is right. It's prohibited for you to know that. For translating file descriptions – translate yourself, using Google translation as advice. Taivo (talk) 07:26, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Chuck Entz, I only asked that because I used to get caught in several rangeblocks meant for User:Til Eulenspiegel, before AND after my account's creation (although my IP block exemption did keep me safe after I registered).
See here for what I mean; the WP blocks in question were 66928085 and 77118144.
That is why I asked TonyBallioni this question about Til Eulenspiegel's crimes in June 2022. (Tony buddy, I ain't gonna hold it against ya, but ya shoulda pointed me to meta:Requests for comment/Global ban for Til Eulenspiegel, doncha think?)

And Taivo, please note -- Google Translate is unreliable.
For instance, if I put in the Japanese text "妖怪ウォッチ等のキャラものを尻目に彼女が選んだのは金魚。実に良いセンスです（笑）。"
that will be rendered as "She chose a goldfish as a character from Yo-Kai Watch. It's really good sense (laughs)."
The actual translation is (per Eirikr) "Looking askance at the characters from Yo-kai Watch and the like, what she chose was the goldfish. That's actually good taste (lol)."
See what I mean? Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 20:55, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

I prohibited you to use ping. Templates "u" and "user" ping others as well. If you do that once more, then I will reblock you. Taivo (talk) 21:08, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't aware that using {{U}} and {{User}} qualified as "pinging". I knew it did notify the user in question, though.

And did you have my talkpage on your watchlist?

Because frankly, I do not know how you (Taivo) usually know if a user has written a reply to you on their own talkpage if they don't ping you. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 21:15, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

I don't. And I do not want to add your talkpage into my watchlist. If you really want to ask, ask on my user talkpage. The problem is, that you were blocked in one project due to "continuing to ping other users after request to stop pinging other editors" and I see, that you really have that problem, that's why I demand you to work without pinging. If you want to link to userpage without pinging, use {{noping|username}}.

Of course I know, that Google translation cannot be always trusted. I am Estonian myself and stupidity of Google translation into and from Estonian language is well known. That's why I said, that Google translation must be used as advice, not using it without thinking. Taivo (talk) 12:03, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Man, I wish somebody on that other project had informed me of {{Noping}} (or whatever alternatives existed on that project). Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 16:56, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Taivo: I forgot to say, I wouldn't use "advice" in that way, because for one thing, would you say "translate [the words by] yourself, using Google Translate as reference"? I doubt it. And besides, you really need a better command of English. For instance, don't use commas that aren't necessary.

• "The problem is, that you were blocked in one project due to "continuing to ping other users after request to stop pinging other editors" and I see, that you really have that problem, that's why I demand you to work without pinging."

should be

• "The problem is that you were blocked from one project due to "continuing to ping other users after request to stop pinging other editors" and I see that you really have that problem, that's why I demand you to work without pinging."

Also, one does not say, "I prohibited you to use ping". One says, "I prohibited you from using ping", "I forbade you to use ping", or "I told you not to use ping". "Prohibit" and "ban" cannot be followed by a to-infinitive; they're used with "from" and/or a gerund, as in "The new ordinance prohibits spitting on sidewalks" or "The judge banned her from keeping animals for ten years".

And in case I didn't tell you this before: The "continuing to ping other users after request to stop pinging other editors" was not why I was blocked from that project. That was something I did only after I'd already been blocked, and it soon led to my talkpage access being revoked there. So, are you gonna take the "no pinging" thingy outta the unblock conditions?
Because there just might come a time when I need to alert one user (such as someone who might know more about a file or set of files than I do--you know, with more expertise than me) while posting on a third user's talkpage. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 19:49, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Please read unblock conditions: "After one year, you can request lifting the ping and Wiktionary conditions." Taivo (talk) 21:14, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes, but does {{Noping}} give users a notification? And can you provide at least 3 other examples of my pinging problem, so I can know just how far the problem extends? Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 22:28, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

You ought to know that yourself. And no, noping does not give users a notification. Taivo (talk) 08:36, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Well, the only extent of my pinging problem that I can think of right now is my proxy-edit-soliciting, which you already covered in condition 3.

Hey, speaking of which, why exactly is it disruptive (as Surjection referred to it here) to solicit those kinds of proxy edits through Commons? See, the proxy-edit-soliciting was done simply so that I would feel less of an urge to block-evade.
So why would he (Surjection) find that part disruptive, especially when I never asked him to make those proxy edits?
I'd ask Surjection but he and Fish bowl seem to think anything I ask them is "pestering" (quite unlike Lugria and Eirikr), even when I don't mean it that way.
Hmm...maybe you can ask them on my behalf (but without actually telling them it's on my behalf)??

See Surjection comment 1 & 2, and Fish bowl comment 1 & 2.
(Three things about Fish bowl comment 1: It was really late at night when I posted the question that he reverted, I had forgotten I wasn't logged into Wikipedia when I posted it, and I didn't feel like mentioning that the blocked user in question was my sock Block Vader of the Sith.)

Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 17:19, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing Commons for a month. The reason for the block is violating unblock condition not to mention Wiktionary (block log). If you believe this block is unjustified, you may add {{Unblock}} below this message explaining clearly why you should be unblocked. For more information, see Appealing a block.

Prohibited edit. As the violation happened in your user talkpage, I removed access to your talkpage as well. If you want to make such edits, maintain a text file in your own computer for that. Taivo (talk) 12:34, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry. If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

• File:SAKURAKO - Picture Diary (24416840385).jpg

Yours sincerely, eien20 (talk) 05:51, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Category:Headgear : Caps # Hats

Good morning, concerning this contribution and others that you made in the Headgear arborescence, please note that Category:Hats and Category:Caps are two distinct sub-categories within the headgear category. Hats are brimmed ; caps are brimless and therefore should not be placed under Category:Hats. Thank you, yours sincerely, --Bohème (talk) 05:10, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

My apologies. Sometimes it can be hard to tell if a hat or cap is brimless or not, you see. (If you squish a brimless cap in a certain way, it'll soon have a sort of brim, unlike a baseball cap [unless you count a baseball cap's bill as a "brim"].) Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 14:29, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Good morning, there is no doubt about what a hat brim is. It is the narrow or broad hat part protuding from the base of the hat crown running together with the hat band all the way around the crown.
Caps do not have brims, some have a projecting peak or visor which does not run around the crown : it shades only the forehead and the eyes.
Caps are definitely not to be confused with hats. In case of doubt, please use Category:Headgear.
I remove this category that you added, and a few others from the caps by color subcategories. Yours sincerely, --Bohème (talk) 03:38, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Uh, you did NOT remove Category:White caps, and a few others from the Category:Caps by color subcategories.

You should have said "I removed Category:White caps from White hats, and applied similar changes to a few other categories in Category:Caps by color).

And when writing on my talkpage, please don't link to French Wikipedia (where "hat brim" is a nonexistent page BTW)--I can only speak English!

(Please note that Knit caps are often called "knit hats" or "ski hats" in English. I also know of a man who said about Ushankas:
"I have no idea what these hats are called, but I call them Fargo hats, because the main character in that movie wears one."
Also, I think you should know that "cap" is defined in English dictionaries as "A close-fitting hat, either brimless or peaked.")

So, do you believe that this hat-cap confusion is a common mistake for English-speakers to make?

Lastly: Why did you wait almost 3 months to respond to me? For me, that's an awfully long time....

PS: I wouldn't use "arborescence" in the way you did on May 30. That word is generally used for something visual, like a phylogenetic tree. Since we can't see the Headgear subcategories in a way visually resembling a tree, that is clearly not an "arborescence". Those "press one for X, press two for Y" telephone systems are often called "phone trees", but nobody ever calls them "phone arborescences".

Have a nice forever! Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 18:39, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

@Bohème: in American English, at least, a cap is considered a hat. A beanie might or might not be, but anything more than that certainly is. - Jmabel ! talk 20:10, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

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• File:SAKIKO enjoyed skiing. (51935733874).jpg
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• File:SAKIKO. (51947702046).jpg
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• File:SAKURAKO and SAKIKO - Sister line. (40093357495).jpg
• File:SAKURAKO and SAKIKO - We went to a nearby cafe. (51691639362).jpg

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Bucharest by decade

Your recent changes to Category:Bucharest in the 1870s etc. removed all the pictures that have long been used as illustrations for these categories. Was there a discussion I missed that reached a consensus to do this? Otherwise, I think these should probably be restored. - Jmabel ! talk 18:09, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

I wanted to get rid of that rather unwieldy {{Places by decade}} thingy, since

Template:time and place is
{{time and place is|1870|Bucharest}}

has more...irrelevant links (with or without the illustrating pictures that you mentioned) than, say,

Template:BucharestDecade
{{BucharestDecade|18|70}}

See also my recent change to Category:North Holland in the 1970s. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 18:59, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

I really think people shouldn't do stuff like this unilaterally. You are undoing someone else's work without giving them a chance to be involved in the decision. - Jmabel ! talk 01:00, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Well, nobody (especially not Srittau) complained when I edited Category:Marzahn-Hellersdorf in the 1940s to add {{DistrictsBerlinDecade}} and remove the previous template along with its category-illustrating image. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 13:58, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

The fact that not every edit you make meets with an objection does not mean that you are going the right way. Who knows whether anyone was even watching that particular category, or paying attention. I am here, now, objecting. People put work into adding those photos, obviously wanted them there; you are removing them (as well as a bunch of links that someone presumably found relevant) with absolutely no chance for anyone to raise the issue beforehand, and then dismissing it when I raise it after the fact. - Jmabel ! talk 14:57, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Well...I do know that L. Beck was watching the Category:Marzahn-Hellersdorf in the 2000s (I mistakenly added an extra | when I added {{DistrictsBerlinDecade}}, and he reverted it, but I realized why and re-added the template correctly).

Anyway, how do I add the optional parameters |image=, |width=, |image2=, and |width2= to templates like {{BucharestDecade}} so that they'll line up in the same way as they do with {{Time and place is}}? I've already re-added the pictures to Category:Bucharest in the 1870s, but they look a little unwieldy. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 15:21, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Don't worry, Jmabel--I think I've got it safely figured out now. Yay! Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 15:29, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes! Good. - Jmabel ! talk 18:26, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

However, there seems to be an issue with Category:Bucharest in the 1920s. I think it has to do with File:Bucharest in 1927.jpg's annotations. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 18:28, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

I unsuccessfully tried a few experiments (e.g. switching over to a "gallery", which I couldn't make work at all.). I don't see any way to suppress the annotations in that context. I think unless we can draft a real template expert we'll just have to change what image we use there, which I'll do. - Jmabel ! talk 22:09, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. (Or should I say, "Sanctuary much!" Haha.) Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 13:17, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

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Sockpuppetry?

I've heard about you are using socks, is it true? Lemonaka (talk) 06:18, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Not since April! Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 16:18, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Color cats

Hello, I see you have been adding new cats to the color combinations tree. Can you have a look at this diff and see if you can make your cats match the rest? -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 23:55, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Why do you want the sortkey for categories like:
Category:Amber, blue, cyan, green, orange, vermilion, yellow to be 8Black and not simply Black
and Category:Black, blue, cyan, green, orange, vermilion, yellow to be 8Amber instead of simply Amber
(as I made 'em for this cat)?
I think it's pointless to have, say, Green, indigo, orange, white‎‎ sorted under anything other than Indigo within Green, orange, white.
(Think like how Blue, red, white clothing is sorted under White within Blue and red clothing and under Red within Blue and white clothing)

Besides, I think that categories such as Color combinations with yellow, vermilion, orange, etc. have become way too crowded. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 15:48, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

I have been expanding on previous work done by other users, adding new categories following what had been done before. I suggest you follow suite. Even if your idea for sort keys (alphasorted by English color name instead of by number of colors envolved) is better (which I would contend is not), there is merit in keeping each new category matching all previous ones, instead of using two different sortkey systems at the same time. If you want to propose new criteria, please do so at the top cat talk page, for general, not piecemeal, application.

As for things like Category:Color combinations with yellow, with 11 368 elements… well, there’s even more in Category:Natural numbers and there’s nothing wrong with that.

-- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 03:34, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Why do you believe my "idea for sortkeys (alphabetically sorted by English color name instead of by number of colors involved)" is not better? Because nobody seems to have a problem with using that sortkey with the tricolor clothing categories (like Category:Blue, red, white clothing).
Compare with these messages which resulted in this change (involving linked categories) to a works-by-decade template ({{DistrictsBerlinDecade}}) that I created.

Anyway, you're welcome about my edit to ΦEΠ letter combinations―whatcha think of my creating Category:Phi Epsilon Pi to accommodate ΦΕΠ letter combinations (and placing Martin Broones in it, so that it wouldn't get deleted for being empty)? Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 13:47, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Islands in categories for cities, why?

Is there a reason why you move categories of whole islands into categories for cities? For example Mykonos, Naxos and several others are islands, not cities. I can see no sense in sorting them as Category:Cities in Greece. --Tsui (talk) 21:21, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Well then, why did Jeanhousen and Auntof6 put Naxos and Mykonos in Category:Cities in Greece in the 21st century? Surely, they must've had some reason for doing that. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 15:58, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

I have no idea why they did so. It does not make sense to sort islands as cities. Will ask them on the weekend. --Tsui (talk) 12:48, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Category:Chemical structures‎

I notice that you are categorizing many files in Category:Chemical structures‎. I don't think this is a good idea. This is a main category and files should be moved into appropriate subcategories. But they are already in subcategories, so there is no need to put them in the main category. Plus, the category is being discussed at Commons:Categories for discussion/2023/02/Category:Chemical structures, so it is probably best to wait to the conclusion of that discussion before making major changes to the way the category is used. Regards, Marbletan (talk) 15:07, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

But I'm really not sure where to put them. I mean, are they Category:Lewis structures or Category:Markush structures?
And do you think I was right to place them all in Category:Verified chemical structure diagrams as I did just now?
I just want to put them in, well, whatever category distinguishes those images from Ball-and-stick models, 3D-sticks models, Space-filling models, and Ribbon diagrams. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 15:16, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Currently I don't think there is a main category that is appropriate for them. There are many tens of thousands of images of this type, so I'm not sure that putting them in one category would make sense anyway. That seems to be the reason, at least in part, for the discussion at Commons:Categories for discussion/2023/02/Category:Chemical structures - please feel free to contribute to that discussion if you have ideas. For certain, Category:Markush structures isn't correct because that has a specific meaning that doesn't apply to the files you categorized and Category:Verified chemical structure diagrams isn't appropriate because it is only for files that have been verified by the WikiProject Commons:WikiProject Chemistry/Structure validation. Marbletan (talk) 15:25, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) sounds like this may call for a maintenance category, something like Category:Chemical structure diagrams of unidentified type. - Jmabel ! talk 15:48, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

That might work. In terms of chemistry terminology, these types of chemical stucture drawings are generally called "Skeletal formulas" (see w:en:Skeletal formula). The Commons category with that name, Category:Skeletal formulas, is currently a redirect to a category with narrower focus: Category:Teaching illustrations of skeletal formulas. Marbletan (talk) 15:57, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Template:By quantity

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Barefoot boys category

Why are you removing Category:Barefoot boys from photos that contain barefoot boys? Mjrmtg (talk) 20:40, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

That category had become way too crowded, so I put some of those images' large (but not overcrowded) categories (Category:Erik Passerone at Ulla-Klinger-Cup 2021, for example) within Category:Barefoot boys, and then used Cat-a-lot on those photos. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 18:06, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

You can't put Category:Erik Passerone at Ulla-Klinger-Cup 2021 in Category:Barefoot boys, he isn't barefoot in every photo. I do like how you created Category:Barefoot standing boys. I do plan to create Category:Barefoot walking boys and Category:Barefoot running boys. I'll see how else I can get the category less crowded. Mjrmtg (talk) 23:19, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

OK. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 16:34, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

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Lifting one unblock condition

One year ago I unblocked you on two conditions and I allowed you to request lifting the conditions after one year, which has now passed. You have now worked for a year in Commons without big problems and I lift now the ping condition. You can now ping users – of course not too often. But meanwhile you got indefinite block in Greek Wiktionary for annoying people, so the Wiktionary condition must remain. You must work in Commons without mentioning Wiktionary at least one year more. Without Greek Wiktionary block things could be different. Taivo (talk) 11:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, Taivo. But truth be told - how was I supposed to know that Sarri.greek would give me the indefinite block in Greek Wiktionary if I tried to make edit-requests on Saltmarsh's talkpage?
I made similar edit-requests to Sayonzei on Chinese Wiktionary (see zh:User talk:Sayonzei) before & after that, and he did not seem annoyed at all!
So maybe you could be a little more lenient with the "don't mention Wiktionary to other users" condition?
(I suggest six months instead of one year, since I already learned my lesson with Greek Wiktionary.)

PS: Please note that I am only mentioning Wiktionary in this reply because:

1. I am not soliciting any proxy-edits in this message.

2. I could post this message on Meta, but then it would look too inappropriate without Taivo's "Lifting one unblock condition" message preceding it. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 20:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@Shāntián Tàiláng: you are already running up against that second condition. Taivo did not offer to discuss the Wiktionary issue with you, and he did not lift the condition about discussing what is happening there [at Wiktionary] on Commons. I won't ask to reinstate the block because of this (I can see how you might have thought it was appropriate to discuss it here in this particular context) but please, just drop the matter right now or I will ask to reinstate the block. - Jmabel ! talk 21:44, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

My apologies, Joe. But how'd you come across my talkpage? I know you're an admin, but I don't think you've ever spoken to me on Commons before. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 18:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Look for my name right here on this page and you will see that we've interacted quite a bit, including you pinging me in an earlier unblock request. - Jmabel ! talk 13:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

My mistake. Sorry. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 14:03, 29 April 2024 (UTC)