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Hi there!
Hi, I don’t Know if you would read this, but i edited some pages of spanish politics.
I edited an hour ago the 2004 People’s party leadership election page, I’m Spanish and member of this party and I know exactly what happened.
I introduced some names of candidates that declined to run and you delete my editions commenting “???”
Do you know anything of spanish politics? Because you have deleted a very good edit and i think you are very wrong.
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.126.116.227 (talk) 19:17, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
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Hello, the values appear to be drastically different for this graph. I was wondering if you could generate 5 new graphs (per party). It should have elements based on company so that we can follow consecutive polling on a company by company basis. Some of these companies seem to have drastically different polling results making a trend assessment impossible. Thanks. -- とある白い猫 ちぃ? 14:19, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, Impru20. Would it be possible for you to update this file, please? Regards, Moonraker (talk) 13:35, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi, Impru20. Congratulations for your excellent work, but I suggest smooth trend lines. I made an example of smoothing for a 15-day moving average: File:Opinion_Polling_for_Spain_General_Election_2015.png I have not replaced your graphic because I think you are doing a great work, so I prefer to you continue to take the initiative. Thank you! --Vigi (talk) 18:33, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
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Graphical Summary
editHello, Impru20! I saw your graphical summaries for opinion polls, they are really good. Do you have kinda program or tutorial how to do GS like that? Thanks, Mirashhh.
Poll graphic
editHow did you that?
SVG version of election graph
editHi Impru20,
could you upload a svg version of File:ElectionAverageGraphItalyNext.PNG? Since the graph seems to be created using R it should be that complicated. See the source code at File:UK EU referendum polling.svg as an example for creating svgs in R. Thank you very much, -- T.seppelt (talk) 11:00, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
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Need update
editHello, can you update https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OpinionPollingGreeceGeneralElectionNext.png thanks — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 176.233.130.99 (talk) 14:43, 04 October 2016 (UTC)
Script for File:ElectionAverageGraphItalyNext.PNG
editHi Impru20,
could you send me the script you used to create File:ElectionAverageGraphItalyNext.PNG (or publish it on the file's description page)? I would like to create a similar one and couldn't figure out how to create these trendlines. Thank you in advance,
-- T.seppelt (talk) 07:31, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
How do you make the same polling graph that you’re using for italy and spain for Canada Produda (talk) 19:12, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
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Italian general election
editCan you update File:ElectionAverageGraphItalyNext.PNG? It was not updated for months. I want a new version already. Also the German one and upload the Dutch one (seat projections, not percentages)--SMB99thx (talk) 06:18, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
Greek elections Polls
edithttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OpinionPollingGreeceGeneralElectionNext.png Update this please.--91.221.154.117 22:44, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Hello,
This name is more descriptive and I didn't see the set of pictures... do you have examples ?
BR
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- And I just saw that Armbrust refused the renaming for the same reason... --Scoopfinder(d) 13:47, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
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File:OpinionPollingGreeceGeneralElectionNext.png requires updating
editHi Impru20,
Thank you for your contributions to Commons. I noticed File:OpinionPollingGreeceGeneralElectionNext.png is out of date. Could you update it? Thanks again. HapHaxion (talk) 15:17, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
poll tracker (Italian general election)
editNeeds updating again. An update would be very much appreciated. 62.252.189.70 14:51, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
Map on Catalonia Republic
editMinistry of Foreign Affairs of South Korea said that "We support the intergrated spain and hope that problem of Catalonia will be resolved peacefully within the constitutional order of Spanish constitution". Therefore, in this map, please include South Korea in "States not recognizing the Catalan Republic"--고려 (talk) 12:45, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
- I'm really grateful to you. :D--고려 (talk) 12:53, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi Western Sahara is disputed. Please remove it from the map with Morocco. --Panam2014 (talk) 13:51, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
- I think using international recognized borders for Egypt, Ukraine, and Morocco is better. --Panam2014 (talk) 13:59, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
- Hi. Corsica is an autonomous entity. I think its position is a notorious information for international recognition. Please take this to the talk page of the image for a discussion with all users. Dartsss (talk) 15:22, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
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See my edit requests in File talk:InternationalRecognitionofCatalonia.svg, please. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.92.177.4 (talk) 20:09, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
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Historia de España
editSaludos y gracias compañero por tus aportes!!! ^^ Podrías colgar CUANDO PUEDAS algunas de estas fotos?
- http://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/multimedia/fototeca/Paginas/Imagen.aspx?img=08e38b9372
- http://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/multimedia/fototeca/Paginas/Imagen.aspx?img=08baa44535 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Campeones 2008 (talk • contribs) 18:29, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
- http://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/multimedia/fototeca/Paginas/Imagen.aspx?img=087d040242
- http://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/multimedia/fototeca/Paginas/Imagen.aspx?img=0865f77241
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- http://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/multimedia/fototeca/Paginas/Imagen.aspx?img=0829470843
GRACIAS!!! --Campeones 2008 (talk) 17:45, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
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editHi! I reported him as a vandal. You could give more info about your evidence on that page. Thanks for the information!. --Sfs90 (talk) 16:41, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- Well, vandalizing the request only make things worse for that vandal. Let's wait for the resolution, meanwhile we have to publish all their vandalisms to keep all evidence possible for the administrators. --Sfs90 (talk) 16:57, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
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NF Color
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editDear Impru20,
Why did you remove the modification on File:OpinionPollingSpainGeneralElection2016.png ? This file is uselessly overlarge, spanning more one year after the end of the election, a time when obviously there is no more poll about this election… In addition, several months are repeated several times (I then assume that they probably don't correspond to the beginning of the month, but we can't know what they actually correspond to since only the month is given…). You are invited to come and discuss these and other problems of your file here: fr:Wikipédia:Atelier graphique/Images à améliorer#Graphique inutilement long.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards.
SenseiAC (talk) 01:38, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- I reiterate the comments done by SenseiAC. Could you please explain why you keep reverting modification on this picture. Like articles, pictures are editable by everyone on Commons. Plus, in this case, the length doesn't seem to make any sense... Thank you for your understanding. Triton (talk) 18:21, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Triton: Just as they are editable, you are also free to upload your own version of the pic into a separate file without overriding already existing files. Indeed, not only you are free to do it, but also, you are required to upload it as a new file when it involves substantial or major changes. This is an actual Wikimedia Commons guideline. Thank you. Impru20 (talk) 18:29, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
- Of course. But apparently this modification is necessary to make the file usable since the elections stopped in 2016. People don't want to alter your work just for fun but to improve it. Triton (talk) 23:39, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Triton: No, this modification is not "necessary to make the file usable". Indeed, some of the crops did actually decrease the quality of the pic (such as this). The image as it is has a purpose: to allow it to be more easily comparable to the trend lines of charts for opinion polling in other elections, at least in the English wiki. Anyway, COM:OVERWRITE is very clear. If you want a cropped version of the image, upload it as a new file. Do not overwrite the currently existing file, as it implies a substantial change of it. Impru20 (talk) 07:13, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Your chart may be useful if at least the axis of the date was meaningful. Here the date are actually random dates, impossible to determine, at the middle of the month, and are therefore not useful to compare anything since we actually don't know what we actually have. Also, I don't understand why you want one full year of nothing in your chart. SenseiAC (talk) 08:53, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- @SenseiAC: The chart as it is right now is useful for comparing trend lines in the English wikipedia. If you want it without such blank space, upload your cropped version as a new file. And if you don't like the current chart, then make your own one with the polling data (it is not difficult). Really, I don't understand what is so difficult about it that you want to persistently overwrite an already existing file as if there was no other choice. Impru20 (talk) 09:37, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Ok, now we get the reason why (yet I don't see any article where there is a comparison...anyway). No need to bite, we are all here to improve and help things, nothing more. Good continuation. Triton (talk) 13:28, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- @SenseiAC: The chart as it is right now is useful for comparing trend lines in the English wikipedia. If you want it without such blank space, upload your cropped version as a new file. And if you don't like the current chart, then make your own one with the polling data (it is not difficult). Really, I don't understand what is so difficult about it that you want to persistently overwrite an already existing file as if there was no other choice. Impru20 (talk) 09:37, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Your chart may be useful if at least the axis of the date was meaningful. Here the date are actually random dates, impossible to determine, at the middle of the month, and are therefore not useful to compare anything since we actually don't know what we actually have. Also, I don't understand why you want one full year of nothing in your chart. SenseiAC (talk) 08:53, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Triton: No, this modification is not "necessary to make the file usable". Indeed, some of the crops did actually decrease the quality of the pic (such as this). The image as it is has a purpose: to allow it to be more easily comparable to the trend lines of charts for opinion polling in other elections, at least in the English wiki. Anyway, COM:OVERWRITE is very clear. If you want a cropped version of the image, upload it as a new file. Do not overwrite the currently existing file, as it implies a substantial change of it. Impru20 (talk) 07:13, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Of course. But apparently this modification is necessary to make the file usable since the elections stopped in 2016. People don't want to alter your work just for fun but to improve it. Triton (talk) 23:39, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
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Por favor
editCuando uses {{Attribution-La Moncloa}}, pon también {{LicenseReview}}. Gracias --Discasto talk 10:27, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Diagram of parliamentary spanish elections
editBuenos días. Acabo de ver sus modificaciones y no sé porque lo ha hecho? Ahora hay imagenes en doble (CLM y La Rioja) que pueden incurrir en supresión ya que son identicas... --FructidorAn3 (talk) 12:39, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
File:SpainProvinceMapCongress1977.png
editThe colors of UDC and PNV are almost the same. Is this intentional or would it make sense to use a different color scheme for PNV? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shuageo (talk • contribs) 04:21, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Shuageo: Intentional. UCD's is typically represented in dark green, whereas PNV's colour is green. There's little we can do here unless you want to use a colour not actually used by either party, which I do not favour. Impru20 (talk) 10:17, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Logo
editHola, veo que mejoraste este logo y que dominas la edición de logotipos. Podrías colgar en una sola imagen este logo al lado de este otro? Sería para Socialists and United to Advance Parliamentary Group (Q56747465). Gracias --Davidpar (disc.) 17:00, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Mapa de resultados Andalucía
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Gráfico de Elecciones de España 2019
editHola, te escribo para saber si ya has colocado en el gráfico File:OpinionPollingSpainGeneralElection2019.png que Vox se posicionó como tercera fuerza política, según esta encuesta. Saludos!.--LuisZ9 (talk) 15:47, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
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editThe Source says "Own work". Although the beautiful graph was made by you, @Impru20, I believe the source of the poll data should also be included in the metadata of this file as Source. Is it one source? several sources? which are them? This is important for fact-checking and better dissemination of information. Thanks!
Italy
editCould you make a chart for the coalitions, thanks Braganza (talk) 16:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
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editThis applies to you. That is a parliament diagram of a municipal election in Alcalá de Henares. Thus the categorisation is appropiate. I don't know if a further specific category for "parliament diagrams of municipal elections in Alcalá de Henares" is necessary (vis-à-vis the subset of "parliament diagrams of municipal elections in Alcalá de Henares created by Impru20"?). But that's up to you not to anyone else. You don't own the content of categories named "parliament diagram of municipal elections".--Asqueladd (talk) 16:35, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- I don't understand. The only hostile and disruptive behaviour in here is yours. You are unable to accept different versions of a parliament diagram categorised in the same generic category (whose content you don't own). For some reason you seem to think only files uploaded by you can be included in a category of parliament diagrams of municipal elections. Stop this nonsense.--Asqueladd (talk) 16:50, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- As I have told you. If you have interest in any particular obscure subset then create a subcategory with a descriptive name (Category:Parliament diagrams of municipal elections in Alcalá de Henares (english wikipedia schema)?) but don't co-opt any generic category, because that's the single disruptive behaviour in here.--Asqueladd (talk) 17:38, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Renaming files
editHi, I am here to discuss with you about the renaming of File:OpinionPollingSpainGeneralElection1996.png and other similar files. I personally think that the new name File:Opinion Polling of Spain General Election 1996.png is better as the space inbetween the word makes it a clearer representation of what the file is about. Do want to listen to you opinion to as you are the uploader of the files. 大诺史 (talk) 11:33, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry about that :) 大诺史 (talk) 11:37, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi. I recently undertook your recent rename requests. I would appreciate if you could read the above link guidance page, and look to follow that guidance and update the renamed pages accordingly to reflect that nature of their more dynamic updates. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:33, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
Images
editIs public domain the thing I should be searching for? Rodrigospascoal (talk) 19:38, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
To delete vs to remove
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Incnis Mrsi (talk) 11:44, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Incnis Mrsi: This user uploaded those images in order to put them in a Wikipedia article. I removed those from there, and this user tried to undo the deletion request here because they didn't want to have their images removed from that article. Yes, "delete" could also have been used, but "remove" is a correct word here considering that, in context, I was referring to such a situation as well. Impru20 (talk) 11:57, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Stop reverting without reason!
edit@Impru20, if you are using colors to represent parties and they are not correct, do not reverse true editions that put them the authentic colours. Arguing "if you don't like it, upload another file" is not valid and even less if the file is not even yours. That is not the first time you make this and, please, respect the editors' contributions, especially if they are to improve the article and to correct mistakes. --Alberto Espinosa 17:54, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
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Hi. Sorry for the inconvenience caused, only with the constant change between CpM and PP I replaced the file and the trend changed. I will still take your advice. It will not happen again. Regards.--LuisZ9 (talk) 23:24, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Autopatrol given
editHello. I just wanted to let you know that I have granted autopatrol rights to your account; the reason for this is that I believe you are sufficiently trustworthy and experienced to have your contributions automatically marked as "reviewed". This has no effect on your editing, it is simply intended to make it easier for users that are monitoring Recent changes or Recent uploads to find unproductive edits amidst the productive ones like yours. In addition, the Flickr upload feature and an increased number of batch-uploads in UploadWizard, uploading of freely licensed MP3 files, overwriting files uploaded by others and an increased limit for page renames per minute are now available to you. Thank you. ~riley (talk) 05:11, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
OpinionPolling
editWhat is the name of the application you use to make moving average line diagrams like the ones you make and upload?--2A02:587:4D2F:AE00:C8B6:CDB9:79:8756 15:52, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Which software for trendlines?
editHello, may I know which software/script/code you use to create poll trendlines?--3512495a (talk) 21:14, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Mónica García
editHola, estos últimos días he estado subiendo imágenes de Mónica García que creía que tenían la licencia correcta pero no la tenían. Hoy he encontrado esta entrevista de elDiario.es https://www.eldiario.es/madrid/monica-garcia-si-ayuso-sale-fracaso-secundario_1_7329831.html con imágenes de Mónica García. Creo que tiene la licencia creative commons correcta, y las iba a subir, pero he visto que otras imágenes obtenidas de elDiario.es tienen mejor resolución de la que aparece en la web. Si pudieras subir esas imágenes con buena resolución estaría encantado. Gracias de antemano. :) --Basque mapping (talk) 17:08, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Congress: Elec.maps of municipalities per region
editI thought, that an ignorant idiot deleted Your great maps (as it happened to mine) at the Results-BreakDowns. Now i am glad, that i found them again! Would make me happy, if You completed them with adding Valenciana and Castile&Leon and the 2019s - a lot of work, i know, but appreciated! Agricola Planitius (talk)Agricola Planitius
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Next Italian General Election
editHello! Requesting an update to your graph for opinion polling for the 2023 Italian General Election as your last update was in July, and since then, a new party has emerged in first place in polling. Thanks! B. M. L. Peters (talk) 08:37, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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Buenas Impru20, nada una preguntica rápida sobre el mapa: ¿Al final Soria Ya iba en coalición con EV? Porque según las fuentes cuando estuvimos viendo en hacer el artículo de esWiki yo entendí como que SY se presentaba únicamente y que, en todo caso, haría grupo parlamentario en las cortes con EV, pero que no se presentaba con ellos. Entonces no sé si sería lo más correcto ponerlo como si hubiese ido en coalición. Que también he visto que hay periódicos que lo tratan como si sí. No sé qué será lo más correcto, la verdad. — Lector d Wiki (talk) 07:34, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Buenos días @Lector d Wiki: . ¡Sí! Es que es una situación particular, pues no son una coalición per se con el resto de EV, pero sí forman parte de la misma alianza/plataforma global. En la página de resultados aparecen diferenciados, pero luego en los medios y en muchas encuestas se les muestra juntos o, cuanto menos, con la coletilla "SY-EV" o derivadas. El caso es muy similar al de Unidas Podemos con ECP y demás confluencias, por lo que se le está dando el mismo tratamiento para mantener la coherencia. ¡Un saludo! Impru20 (talk) 07:54, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
2004 People’s Party of Spain congress
editHi there!
Hi, I don’t Know if you would read this, but i edited some pages of spanish politics.
I edited an hour ago the 2004 People’s party leadership election page, I’m Spanish and member of this party and I know exactly what happened.
I introduced some names of candidates that declined to run and you delete my editions commenting “???”
Do you know anything of spanish politics? Because you have deleted a very good edit and i think you are very wrong.
Graphical summary
editHi Impru20. My name is Jurajec6 and I am user involved mainly in the Slovak politics. I saw that you uploaded a great graphical summaries for the next Spanish and Italian parliamentary elections. The article with polls for the next Slovak parliamentary election currently lacks such a graphical summary. Since I'm not experienced in creating and editing graphs outside of Wikipedia, I can't change it. But I really like your work. So I just wanted to say and ask if you could create a similar one for Slovakia if you were bored, or at least give us your know-how.
Best regards! Jurajec6 (talk) 22:20, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Need update
editHi, my name is Danielfpq and I am an unexperienced wikipedia.it user. I've noticed that the graph that is being used for the opinion polling for the next Italian general election is not updated. As the elections approach and a page in Italian will surely be created, the graph should be put up to date for clarity and general understanding. Thank you in advance,
Kind regards, --Danielfpq (talk) 21:59, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
Update Graph
editHi, it has been 3 months since the Next Greek Election Graph has been updated and 18 more polls have been released since then. If we could try to keep regularly updating these graphs that would be helpful. Otherwise I am willing to produce a regularly updated graph for the polling. Thank you. CoaxAndBotany (talk) 00:37, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Will work on it today. Thank you! Impru20 (talk) 08:37, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Madrid update
editHi @Impru20, there's a new Madrid regional election poll out. Please update the graph when you get the time. Thanks Quinnnnnby (talk) 13:29, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you, I'll do it as soon as I can. Please note that one thing is that charts are outdated by a couple months, another thing is to keep asking for an update every time a new poll comes out. That the chart update is not absolutely immediate does not mean that it won't happen soon. Thanks! Impru20 (talk) 20:23, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
How do I create a polling graph?
editHello Impru20! I was wondering how I can create general election polling graphs like the ones you'ng ve been creating/updating? I was asking because I feel that the 2023 Ecuadorian general election's English wiki article would benefit from having a polling graph. Thanks! TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:08, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Share graph code
editHey Impru20, I was wondering whether you could share the R code. I'm curious about the specific method of local regression used, and I'd like to learn some more about ggplot. Additionally, I could help you update it from time to time, alleviating your work. Best, Tomé Tome.rodriguez (talk) 10:27, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Archivo:Catalunya_En_Comú_2021_logo.svg
editHi, Impru20, in https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Catalunya_En_Com%C3%BA_2021_logo.svg you change de colour because "In the sourced website this logo is not shown with any particular colour", but the statutes of Catalunya en Comú establish on page 7 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gOOaxAkTAyk6L7vzwqgUp5DHqJFDHG6C/view) that the party's corporate colors are vermilion ([[1]]) and purple ([[2]]). I've reverted your edit. Fliz82 (talk) 13:18, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Fliz82; as it says in your marvelous source, the party has several official colours (not a single one). It also shows a black version of the logo in page 7 (where it shows six other versions). I have thus reverted your edit, since black is the most neutral colour here, instead of your cherry-picking of one of these (why should we choose purple and not vermillion, exactly? We should we favour one of the official colours over the others?). Cheers! Impru20 (talk) 14:37, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Black is used in one-ink editions such as electoral ballots, there is no source where the party uses that color while there are multiple examples of the use of purple. Please, stop gaming and respect the corporate image of Catalunya En Comú above your, in this case irrelevant, personal beliefs. Thanks.
- https://twitter.com/CatEnComu_/photo
- https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=227979786189129&set=a.227979779522463
- https://www.instagram.com/catencomu/ Fliz82 (talk) 15:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Fliz82: You provided a source where black is clearly used in the logos together with the other ones. Your source, the party's statutes, use black. The same source clearly states that, if anything, when it comes to pick a colour then vermillion is the main colour over purple, yet you ignore your own source and cherry-pick purple as the main colour to show, for the sake of it. Yes, the party uses purple and vermillion interchangeably (as well as black or even neutral shades). Curiously, since your own initial, authority source proved you wrong, now you seemingly cherry-pick more sources to support your claim and ignore facts, while dubbing my arguments as "irrelevant". No, my friend: this is your own "irrelevant, personal beliefs. Thanks". Cheers! Impru20 (talk) 15:20, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- On the website itself you can see that they use purple.
- https://www.catalunyaencomu.cat/index.php/ca/premsa/catalunya-en-comu-engega-seu-proces-de-primaries-escollir-candidat-o-candidata-eleccions
- https://www.catalunyaencomu.cat/ca/premsa/mena-govern-nomes-comptara-amb-nostre-suport-si-descarta-hard-rock-i-situa-com-prioritats
- https://www.catalunyaencomu.cat/ca/premsa/mena-laigua-no-cau-del-cel-nomes-quants-i-ja-es-hora-que-govern-consideri-turisme-com-sector
- https://www.catalunyaencomu.cat/ca/premsa/mena-hi-ha-molta-ciutadania-tot-pais-que-esta-esperant-fumata-blanca-sobre-investidura-i-es Fliz82 (talk) 15:36, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Fliz82: Literally all those links show a vermillion-background logo as the header of the website LOL. You are basically acknowledging my own claim that the colours are used interchangeably (which adds to your own initial source –which you have since ommitted– using black, vermillion and purple, then acknowledging vermillion as the main colour and purple as secondary), but then you somehow pretend that we ignore all colours that are not purple. Impru20 (talk) 15:50, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- I mean, I am not disputing that purple is used, nor I ever did. That's the whole point: purple is used... as well vermillion, and black/white depending on the circunstamces. Your first source uses vermillion, purple and black versions of the logo. That source also says that, if anything, vermillion is dominant. All sources point to the colours being used interchangeably. These colours are used interchangeably across Wikipedia as well, leading to weird situations when a purple logo is used when the article uses vermillion as the party's colour and vice versa. The use of black here is a compromise (one recognized by the party itself) in which neither one is cherry-picked as the single official colour (since the party uses all of them) that also fits all articles across Wikipedia. I am not even opposing that vermillion and purple versions of the logo may be uploaded separately and used across Wikipedia at leisure. Impru20 (talk) 15:59, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- The corporate colors are vermilion and purple, the first being the main and the lilac the secondary. That is, black is not mentioned, reserved for black and white works. If you don't want to put a purple version you should put it in vermilion, not black. Fliz82 (talk) 16:32, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- And in the links that I provide from the website you can also see how the purple is used in rollers, lecterns and official folders. Your probably eroticized, sexualized, paraphilized, black color does not appear anywhere on the web. Fliz82 (talk) 16:40, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Aside of clearly evidencing a lack of genuine care or interest about any arguments other than your own, your reply is absolutely disgusting and out of place. Impru20 (talk) 16:49, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- You use the LOL before, is only a mirror. Fliz82 (talk) 16:55, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- No, it is an outright insult. I did not personally attack you, I used "LOL" as a toned-down way to emphasize that you were pretending to take everyone else as dumb by ignoring that the whole website you kept linking uses other colours (like vermillion everywhere) and by ignoring your own initial source, which you initially kept posting everywhere as an authority source ("hey, that's the party's statutes") until you realized that it showed a black version of the logo similar to the one that has been uploaded. I have attempted to argue with you in a polite way, even pointing an alternative solution (uploading different pics using the various official colours). You have literally thrown accusations at me of things that you have been doing through this discussion, and if I had to tell whether someone here has "eroticized, sexualized, paraphilized" a colour, then that's probably you with your obsession with purple. Anyway, you have let you run out of any meaningful arguments by this point, specially considering your attempt to resort to personal attacks. I hope you have a nice day at the very least. Impru20 (talk) 17:05, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- It is clear that you have no knowledge about corporate identities or how they always provide a black version, however in those statutes they clearly say that the colors are vermilion and not purple, above black, and I have provided you with numerous sources official where it is used when facing the public, one of those colors and, in no case, black. In fact, this has also been the case in CommonsWikimedia for more than two years until you decided that beyond the corporate image with which the party identifies, what is important are your feelings. Fliz82 (talk) 18:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- You again come with a rant of personal considerations on myself, combined with a random mix of concepts for no reason, only to attempt to hide you lack of arguments. You have blatantly ignored what I have argued for throughout the discussion: the need for a neutral version of the logo that can be used interchangeably for all articles throughout Wikipedia, without that precluding different versions (in purple or vermillion) being uploaded if required. I have never denied the party uses purple. I have never denied the party uses vermillion. It is you have repeteadly cherry-picked sources, arguments and insults to try to defend the case for purple, ignoring that some wikis (such as the Spanish one) use vermillion for the party and not purple. If corporate identities always provide "a black version" then that means, amid the various versions, than that is the most neutral one. That-is-my-point. On the "two year"-thing: this logo is no different than this one that has been around here for seven years, except that it does not include the imagery. That someone in 2021 chose to upload as official a logo that is not the single, official one does not mean than this cannot be corrected. Impru20 (talk) 18:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- "then that means, amid the various versions, than that is the most neutral one": Well, you misunderstand, in Spain a lot of printing is done with one ink, that is, only with a black ink cartridge, for example, electoral ballots, and the Ministry of the Interior does not accept any color other than black in its registry of political parties. For this reason, there are political parties that offer a black version, because if the color originals were printed with black ink the result would not be the most optimal. The statutes clearly state which are the two corporate colors, which do not include black, and those are the colors used in its material and in its social networks by the party, which is more authorized for these purposes than you (and me). Fliz82 (talk) 19:15, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- You again come with a rant of personal considerations on myself, combined with a random mix of concepts for no reason, only to attempt to hide you lack of arguments. You have blatantly ignored what I have argued for throughout the discussion: the need for a neutral version of the logo that can be used interchangeably for all articles throughout Wikipedia, without that precluding different versions (in purple or vermillion) being uploaded if required. I have never denied the party uses purple. I have never denied the party uses vermillion. It is you have repeteadly cherry-picked sources, arguments and insults to try to defend the case for purple, ignoring that some wikis (such as the Spanish one) use vermillion for the party and not purple. If corporate identities always provide "a black version" then that means, amid the various versions, than that is the most neutral one. That-is-my-point. On the "two year"-thing: this logo is no different than this one that has been around here for seven years, except that it does not include the imagery. That someone in 2021 chose to upload as official a logo that is not the single, official one does not mean than this cannot be corrected. Impru20 (talk) 18:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- It is clear that you have no knowledge about corporate identities or how they always provide a black version, however in those statutes they clearly say that the colors are vermilion and not purple, above black, and I have provided you with numerous sources official where it is used when facing the public, one of those colors and, in no case, black. In fact, this has also been the case in CommonsWikimedia for more than two years until you decided that beyond the corporate image with which the party identifies, what is important are your feelings. Fliz82 (talk) 18:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- No, it is an outright insult. I did not personally attack you, I used "LOL" as a toned-down way to emphasize that you were pretending to take everyone else as dumb by ignoring that the whole website you kept linking uses other colours (like vermillion everywhere) and by ignoring your own initial source, which you initially kept posting everywhere as an authority source ("hey, that's the party's statutes") until you realized that it showed a black version of the logo similar to the one that has been uploaded. I have attempted to argue with you in a polite way, even pointing an alternative solution (uploading different pics using the various official colours). You have literally thrown accusations at me of things that you have been doing through this discussion, and if I had to tell whether someone here has "eroticized, sexualized, paraphilized" a colour, then that's probably you with your obsession with purple. Anyway, you have let you run out of any meaningful arguments by this point, specially considering your attempt to resort to personal attacks. I hope you have a nice day at the very least. Impru20 (talk) 17:05, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- You use the LOL before, is only a mirror. Fliz82 (talk) 16:55, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Aside of clearly evidencing a lack of genuine care or interest about any arguments other than your own, your reply is absolutely disgusting and out of place. Impru20 (talk) 16:49, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- And in the links that I provide from the website you can also see how the purple is used in rollers, lecterns and official folders. Your probably eroticized, sexualized, paraphilized, black color does not appear anywhere on the web. Fliz82 (talk) 16:40, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- The corporate colors are vermilion and purple, the first being the main and the lilac the secondary. That is, black is not mentioned, reserved for black and white works. If you don't want to put a purple version you should put it in vermilion, not black. Fliz82 (talk) 16:32, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- I mean, I am not disputing that purple is used, nor I ever did. That's the whole point: purple is used... as well vermillion, and black/white depending on the circunstamces. Your first source uses vermillion, purple and black versions of the logo. That source also says that, if anything, vermillion is dominant. All sources point to the colours being used interchangeably. These colours are used interchangeably across Wikipedia as well, leading to weird situations when a purple logo is used when the article uses vermillion as the party's colour and vice versa. The use of black here is a compromise (one recognized by the party itself) in which neither one is cherry-picked as the single official colour (since the party uses all of them) that also fits all articles across Wikipedia. I am not even opposing that vermillion and purple versions of the logo may be uploaded separately and used across Wikipedia at leisure. Impru20 (talk) 15:59, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Fliz82: Literally all those links show a vermillion-background logo as the header of the website LOL. You are basically acknowledging my own claim that the colours are used interchangeably (which adds to your own initial source –which you have since ommitted– using black, vermillion and purple, then acknowledging vermillion as the main colour and purple as secondary), but then you somehow pretend that we ignore all colours that are not purple. Impru20 (talk) 15:50, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Fliz82: You provided a source where black is clearly used in the logos together with the other ones. Your source, the party's statutes, use black. The same source clearly states that, if anything, when it comes to pick a colour then vermillion is the main colour over purple, yet you ignore your own source and cherry-pick purple as the main colour to show, for the sake of it. Yes, the party uses purple and vermillion interchangeably (as well as black or even neutral shades). Curiously, since your own initial, authority source proved you wrong, now you seemingly cherry-pick more sources to support your claim and ignore facts, while dubbing my arguments as "irrelevant". No, my friend: this is your own "irrelevant, personal beliefs. Thanks". Cheers! Impru20 (talk) 15:20, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Method
editHey Impru20,
Thanks for uploading the local regression for the 2024 Basque election. Could you share the methodology you use? Do you use LOESS? If so, how do you select the span? Could you also share whether you use weights, and, if so, how do you use weights, namely how much weight do you give to the result of the last election?
Thanks and best,
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