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Wikipedia Play Africa Competition Files Flagged RedundantEdit

Hello TCells,

Some of my pictures were flagged redundant. Pls kindly review the files flagged. They are original pictures taken by me at the events stated in Jos Nigeria. You can observe from the mrta data information and also the multiple pictures uploaded of one scene. Please kindly restore it & remedy this anomaly. All what I have posted are authorised and originals. Thanks //BR

Josh Eson L.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Josh Eson (talk • contribs) 20:44, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

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Hi T Cells. As I am new with the LR right, I have a question to ask. If the stated source of the file is no longer available, how should the file be dealt with? See File:(직캠)(4K 60P) 폴킴 - 좋은사람 (180415 2018 H.A.N.D 페스티벌) by.JAS.webm for the file I'm talking about. (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 05:13, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

大诺史 by "no longer available" do you meant the source is no longer accessible and you have no idea of under which license it was previously uploaded to Commons? I am away from home and currently on a mobile device but Davey2010 may be interested in this. Regards. T CellsTalk 05:41, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
Sorry for not being clear. The source of the mentioned file is no longer accessible. (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 05:43, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
@大诺史: Try archive.org. As the link was not found there, try Google cache. As it's not there either, try finding it in Bing cache. (doesn't seem to be there either) You can contact the uploader, but at this point it's probably a loss. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 06:20, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
大诺史, chances are that the video has been deleted from YouTube. That happens most of the time and there is nothing Commons can do about what happens on external websites. That being said, the image was imported from YouTube by a trusted user, User:Explicit, and I assumed they verified that the file was available there under the stated license on that date prior to importing here. Thus, if this is the case, the license cannot be revoked even thou the source link is broken or the license has changed, the same way a license cannot be revoked if any Flickr file change their license in the site after they have been verified here on Commons. T CellsTalk 06:39, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
So it's ok to verify the license? (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 07:03, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
You can't verify the license as you cannot access the source but may be passed if User:Explicit confirm that the file was available there under the stated license on that date prior to importing here. T CellsTalk 07:07, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping, Alexis Jazz is bang on - The only way you can verify it would be to view a cached version however there's no longer cached versions available so as such the only option we have is to decline the licence and delete. –Davey2010Talk 11:32, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
@大诺史: I forgot one method: search Commons. (insource:"X-TuJSVGbeY") Sometimes there is another file uploaded from the same source (like a screenshot) that has already been reviewed. In this case no such luck. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 15:00, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz, Davey2010: & T Cells. Thanks for explaining this to me :) I'll be copying this to my own talk page archive for easy reference. (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 15:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
Should I just request a DR/speedy for the file? (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 15:06, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
I've DR'd it as at the time of uploading it could have been under a CC licence, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:08, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
@大诺史: Generally prefer DR. The uploader (Explicit) is an admin/license reviewer so it's best to let the uploader handle it in this particular case. If any other (reasonably trusted) user can confirm it was available under a CC license at the time, Explicit could review it. Of course, we have to take into consideration why the YouTube account was terminated. We don't actually know, but copyright violations are a common reason for account termination. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 15:14, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
Another one I forgot! http://archive.is/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-TuJSVGbeY It's actually there, license confirmed. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 15:16, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
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