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"Ballet Nacionalista del estado Mérida va,guardia del Nacionalismo Artístico Danzario en Venezuela"
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Balletnacionalistamerida (talk • contribs) 08:14, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

API "NeedToken" ErrorEdit


I don't know if it's the right place for this, but here I am. I am trying to upload images to Wikimedia Commons using MWBot, a NPM Package, however even the simplest example simply refuses to work, I get a "NeedToken" error.

const MWBot = require('mwbot');

let bot = new MWBot();

const APIURL = ''; const USERNAME = 'username@botname'; const PASSWORD = 'long random string';


 apiUrl: APIURL,
 username: USERNAME,
 password: PASSWORD


 .then((response) => console.log('Response: %o', response))
 .catch(error => console.error('Login Error: %o', error));

And my error is simply : index.js:19 Login Error: Error: Could not login: NeedToken

This is running on a local server, and the only way to get the request to even work is to disable CORS using a chrome extension. Any ideas?

Thank you.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by KywimMedia (talk • contribs) 13:32, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Cannot login through the wikimedia API (bot account)Edit

Hello everyone, I'm currently working on the Open Yesterday project (more info here:, we want to add a feature that could permit to our users to directly upload their pictures about certain places onto wikimedia and then use the returned links to show them up on our application.

The thing is that i cannot figure out how to log into wikimedia with my bot account, we're using javascript, here's the code:

               let jsonLogInfo = JSON.parse(jsonInfo);
               let formData = new FormData();
               formData.append('action', 'login');
               formData.append('lgname', jsonLogInfo.loginInfo.lgname);
               formData.append('lgpassword', jsonLogInfo.loginInfo.lgpassword);
               formData.append('lgtoken', loginToken);
               formData.append('format', 'json');
               var options = {
                   method: 'POST',
                   body: formData,
                   cache: 'no-cache',
                   credentials: 'include'    
               fetch(apiURL, options)
               .then(response => response.json())
               .then(response => JSON.stringify(response))
               .catch(error => console.log(error));

I'm getting redirected to the API help webpage each time (the loginToken is generated with another request)

Can someone figure out what is going wrong ?

Thank you for your time,

Open Yesterday team
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Byoa (talk • contribs) 14:03, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Uploading a picture via the APIEdit

Hey everyone,

I'm trying to upload a picture via the API, i'm making my API POST request like this:

               let file = document.getElementById('files').files[0];
               var formData = new FormData();
               formData.append("action", "upload");
               formData.append('format', 'json');
               formData.append("file", file);
               formData.append("token", CSRFToken);
               formData.append('ignorewarning', 1);
               fetch(apiURL, {
                   method: 'POST',
                   headers: {
                       "Content-Type": "multipart/form-data"
                   credentials: 'include',
                   body: formData

I think the problem is my file field: I don't know in which format i should upload it.

Thanks in advance for your help.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Byoa (talk • contribs) 14:50, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Авторские праваEdit

Пытаюсь загрузить фотографию, отсканированную из семейного альбома, её удаляют за нарушение авторских прав. Повторно загрузить не удаётся. Как загрузить?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by FdXs4NXQ2v6nnvqw (talk • contribs) 19:09, 30 July 2019‎ (UTC)

Use of non authorized pictures of private property:

Als rechtmäßige Privateigentümer/Eigner der Liegenschaft am Bodenborn 54 untersagen wir hiermit die Publikation unerlaubten Bildmaterials dieses Objekts. Die auf Wikipedia von Ihnen veröffentlichten Aufnehmen ( wurden leider ohne unsere Genehmigung oder Zustimmung wiederrechtlich gemacht und veröffentlicht. Wir verlangen hiermit daher die sofortige Entfernung dieses Bildmaterials (sofern die Aufnehmen des Hauses am Bodenborn 54 umgehend entfernt werden, werden wir auf weitere/rechtliche Schritte verzichten). Mit freundlichen Grüßen —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 12:43, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Deutschland hat Panoramafreiheit, nicht wahr? - Jmabel ! talk 16:23, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
    • Ja, hat es. Siehe dazu auch diesen Artikel. So wie es aussieht, wurde File:Witten-Bommern Bodenborn 54.JPG von öffentlichem Grund außerhalb des Privatgrundstücks fotografiert und bedarf daher keiner Zustimmung des Hauseigentümers. Falls der Standort des Fotografen tatsächlich auf Privatgrund war, ist das allerdings in diesem Fall ein Problem. De728631 (talk) 14:48, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

هل يمكنني ان ارفع صوره تابعه لي وانا مالك الصورهEdit

هل استطيع ان ارفع ملف وسائط هي صوره وانا مالكها
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Fadelalamari (talk • contribs) 04:06, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Uploading a photograph of my great grandfather from family albumEdit

I have a photo of my great grandfather which I would like to upload on Wikipedia. William James Dawson is a prominent author from the early 20 century having published over 40 books.

Please tell me what I need to make this photo acceptable to Wikipedia.

Thanks John Candy
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Candyjify (talk • contribs) 01:19, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @Candyjify: The issues will entirely be about copyrights, not about his notability. So: who took the photo? When and in what country? Is it previously published and if so where? (Those are the crucial questions; depending on the answers to those, we'll probably have a few more questions.) - Jmabel ! talk 03:47, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

photograph licenseEdit

May I upload a photograph that was taken with my camera, and on my film, but not by me (i.e., I was not the photographer)? The subject of the photograph is Hubert Lederer Dreyfus (died April 22, 2017). Hubert Dreyfus has a page on Wikipedia. The photographer is John Haugeland (died June 23, 2010). John Haugeland also has a page on Wikipedia. The photograph was taken at John Haugeland's suggestion, and with Hubert Dreyfus's consent, as a gift to me. It was their stated intention that the negative should be mine, to do with as I please. However, as they are both now deceased, it is no longer possible to obtain written releases from them.--Grandmotherfrompeoria (talk) 02:58, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

@Grandmotherfrompeoria: Sorry, you may not upload that photo without written permission sent by the estate or heirs of the photographer via OTRS with a carbon copy to you, and a {{subst:OP}} tag.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 03:24, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: OK, I will see if I can obtain that. Thank you. Grandmotherfrompeoria (talk) 15:05, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
@Grandmotherfrompeoria: You're welcome.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 15:21, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

@Jeff G.: I have obtained agreement from the copyright holder. Please advise the correct sequence of steps to follow. Should the copyright holder first use the "Interactive Release Generator"? Or should I first upload the photo with an "OTRS Pending" tag? And how does the copyright holder identify the photo to OTRS? through a ticket number? Grandmotherfrompeoria (talk) 15:58, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Doesn't updateEdit

I'm trying to upload a newer version of this page [1] but it won't show up on the page. Why? Floathreenn (talk) 16:26, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

  • @Floathreenn: You've now gone back and forth several times between two versions. My guess is that you need to clear your browser cache. - Jmabel ! talk 03:57, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

City sealEdit


I work for a small US city. We just updated our seal, so I wanted to replace the old one with the new one here on Wikipedia. Is there a way to do this without granting permission for anyone to use and modify, etc.? Obviously, that wasn't the case for our old seal either, but somehow it still made its way onto Wikipedia. Is the best solution here just to delete the seal altogether?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by MEK11989 (talk • contribs) 7 August 2019‎ 17:10 (UTC)
  • @MEK11989: You certainly shouldn't be changing the old one on Commons, since it is still of historical relevance. Any upload should be under a new name.
  • Commons accepts only files that are licensed to allow derivatives. If you don't want to do that, please don't upload to Commons.
  • The English-language Wikipedia makes some allowances for non-free images. Note that this is entirely on the English-language Wikipedia, and does not involve Commons.
  • Since you don't name the city or indicate what file is involved, that's about all the advice I can give. - Jmabel ! talk 04:01, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

HI This is regarding Pic used for creating profile of Kanhaiyalal Kapoor. We Legal hiers of Kanhaiyalal Kapoor own this pic and have copyrights and can be distributed. Is there any other thing required from my side that is pending review.

Let me know.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumeetworld (talk • contribs)
  • @Sumeetworld: It does not matter that you are the legal heirs of the subject of the photo: copyright would belong to the photographer. If copyright persists on the photo, we need permission from the photographer, or the photographer's heirs or assigns.
    • If the copyright was signed over, etc., you will have to go through the process described at COM:OTRS to present the evidence of that.
    • This may take some time to sort out. Don't worry if the picture gets deleted now, it can be restored once this is all worked out.
  • You claimed 'own work', which is obviously not the case. Who took the photo?
  • The description should describe what is in the photo. "Profile Photo1" is not a useful description.
  • You say you are his "heirs". Accounts should each be used by only one person. If multiple people are using this account, please each set up an account of your own and leave this account in the hands of only one of you.
  • You say you are his "heirs". Have you read en:WP:COI? As his heirs, you certainly have a conflict of interest under the rules of the English-language Wikipedia. Have you stated that conflict of interest as required by en:WP:COI?
  • I know that is a lot, but you started in here by working on one of the hardest things to do in an appropriate manner for an encyclopedia: an article about something in which you are actually involved. - Jmabel ! talk 17:09, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

subir fotos desde el ordenadorEdit

Tengo autorización de las fotografías que estoy subiendo proporcionada por los familiares de Enrique Arrate

No entiendo porque me intentan sabotear sí además he detallado incluso las fuentes
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Staypoevega (talk • contribs)
  • @Staypoevega: No sufice decir que tenga autorización. Y no veo nada que indica fuentes y derechos. Por ejemplo, File:IKARO 747.jpg dice "Son del álbum de fotografías de la familia" y "{{ISBN|84-7821-349-X}}". No indica ninguna licencia.
  • Véase Commons:OTRS/es (me siento mucho que un gran parte ya queda no traducido desde el inglés). Necesitamos:
    1. prueba de que los derechos han sido transferidos.
    2. una licencia libre específica, que admite la reutilización, incluido (como mínimo) el uso comercial y la creación de obras derivadas.
- Jmabel ! talk 17:23, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

s:en:File:Patents Act 1970 (India).pdfEdit

I recently found s:en:File:Patents Act 1970 (India).pdf from English Wikisource. Is that file suitable for me to move to Commons?廣九直通車 (talk) 06:45, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

  • @廣九直通車: Looks so to me. What has you doubting that? - Jmabel ! talk 17:24, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
    • @Jmabel:Not really, just pondering that if the file should only be kept on English Wikisource. Anyways, thanks for your help!廣九直通車 (talk) 01:40, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @Jmabel:Just another question, when I was transferring the file using CommonsHelper, the program gives out a error message:

ERROR: The file you submitted was empty.
What does that means? Thank you.

I've never transferred a PDF with CommonsHelper, so I have no special insight into this. - Jmabel ! talk 04:44, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Photographier les Outre-merEdit

I have just uploaded a photo ? Where post the comment (caption) ? Thanks,


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthropologieenligne (talk • contribs) 8 August 2019‎ 16:35 (UTC)
  • @Anthropologieenligne: I don't see any photos you've uploaded. The only upload I seen by you is a PDF, File:Salazes.pdf that, at least as a glance is not obviously in Commons' scope (COM:SCOPE). Could you link to the photo you are talking about? - Jmabel ! talk 17:29, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Copyright Check for Images from Government source (India)Edit

Was browsing through the articles on Wikipedia of Members of the 17th Lok Sabha (India) and found that most of the articles were missing images.

Then I browsed the Lok Sabha website (where all images are available) and went through their copyright notice ( which said that: "The material listed may be reproduced without formal permission for the purposes of non-commercial research, private study and for criticism, review and news reporting provided that the material is appropriately attributed."

Therefore, I believe the images are eligible to be uploaded. Request Help Desk to check if that is indeed the case (or guide me as to where I should put up my query) so that we can follow this matter to the logical conclusion.

In case eligible to be uploaded, I will be happy to add all images with proper titles on Wikimedia Commons and then add the images to the articles which are missing them on the English Wikipedia. Uploading on Commons will also allow other Wikipedia in Indic languages to use these images.

Thank you. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 00:34, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

@Avenue X at Cicero: That's a license that doesn't give permission for every purpose, including commercial use, so not sufficient for Commons. See Commons:Licensing. --ghouston (talk) 03:16, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

What should its parent category be?Edit

Should the "Vehicle rental" category be placed in Category:Automotive industry? Because Category:Bicycle rental and Category:Boat rental are placed in Vehicle rental.--Kai3952 (talk) 12:40, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

@Kai3952:No, as "vehicle" here means transportation means, and is not about the cars we say about, i.e. "automobiles" in categories.廣九直通車 (talk) 12:46, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Should we change it to "Category:Service industries"?--Kai3952 (talk) 13:12, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Brand ID Logo.pngEdit

--Dwtrapan (talk) 23:17, 9 August 2019 (UTC) I uploaded a file Brand ID Logo.png How do I not get this deleted?

@Dwtrapan:Please inform the company to send a permission statement to according to the instructions of OTRS. Please also give out a valid license. You may want to look at COM:L, regards.廣九直通車 (talk) 02:49, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Josefa Murillo.jpgEdit

Hello, can someone help me in regards to this file's status? I'm fairly certain it's from a public domain source (author died in the late 1800s) but I find the imagine online.

--Seguro64 (talk) 01:45, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

@Seguro64:Thank you. Who is the author of the painting, and when did the author died?廣九直通車 (talk) 02:50, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Upload modified Wiki CommonsEdit

Dear Help Desk, I wanted to ask if it is allowed to upload modified Wiki Commons content. As part of an assignment I had to translate a Wikibook page, including the corresponding pictures. I created the new pictures from scratch, but they look like the original ones, except that their colours and shapes are slightly different and the language used in the grafics is German instead of the original language. As the original pictures run under the Commons license, can I simply upload my "new" images and point out in the description of the images when uploading them that they were created following the example of the original images?

Thank you very much for your help!
— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎VFeebach (talk • contribs)
@VFeebach: It's permitted to make derived images from those released under Creative Commons licences. You should upload them under different filenames, obviously, and include the template {{Derived from}}. Rodhullandemu (talk) 11:05, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Deleting photo and accountEdit


Как удалить фото и аккаунт в википедии?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Колготки советские (talk • contribs) 10 August 2019‎ 12:49 (UTC)
  • You can't really delete an account, you can just stop using it. If you'd like your account permanently blocked so that no one could possibly usurp it, I believe that can be arranged. We can even change the name so it would be less identified with you, but in your case it doesn't look like there is any identifying information in the account name.
  • In general, you can't delete a photo unless there is a specific, acceptable reason to delete it. When you uploaded, you granted an irrevocable license: that should be very clear from what is written on the upload forms. - Jmabel ! talk 16:21, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
    • Looking at your uploads, though, you could probably get them all deleted as being personal photos of no educational use. - Jmabel ! talk 16:24, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Use pictureEdit


My question is whether I may use File:MCC-31231 Mozes toont de wetstafelen (1).tif for the front page of my thesis.

Kind Regards, Frans Hazeleger.

@FransHaze: Yes you may, it is explicitly public domain, but a credit "Foto: Museum Catharijneconvent, Utrecht, foto Ruben de Heer" would be polite. Rodhullandemu (talk) 14:35, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

User following me around, and to know which files I editedEdit

User:Solomon203 has been following my edits for a long time, but I don't know how to stop him. I warned him on his talk page twice to stop(see: special:diff/360800294 and special:diff/361282775). If he still following me around to files I've been editing, then what should I do?--Kai3952 (talk) 15:46, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

  • @Kai3952: I don't understand. Barely a month ago you complained when someone tried to give you auto-patrol status and now you are complaining that someone is patrolling your edits. - Jmabel ! talk 16:29, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
    • @Jmabel: To "File:Lai love.jpg" for example, I edited at 14:28 (UTC), and User:Solomon203 has also edited the same file on the same day, his editing was at 14:35 (UTC). He can know which files I edited in 7 minutes, so I thought the only possibility is.....he is watching my contributions! If this is patrolling, why he has been hounding me and stalking me for 2 years? You say that I am complaining that someone is patrolling my edits. OK, but you tell me who will do this? If I have enough time, I will try to collect evidence specifically about how User:Solomon203 follows my edits.--Kai3952 (talk) 19:13, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
      @Kai3952: That file was a duplicate of File:I love you my sweet love.jpg and has been deleted. Per COM:PATROL and COM:FR, we have 551 patrollers, 1,384 file movers, and 224 Administrators, all of whom can patrol your edits. In addition, your userpage has had 1,122 views in the past 60 days, your user talk page 1,226.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 01:16, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
      • @Jeff G.: Take a look at Commons:Harassment#Hounding. Patrolling is different from hounding. If all of whom can patrol my edits, why is he only hounding me and stalking me for 2 years? For me, the real problem is that his edits showed up what I just edited whenever I edit something. Why can he always do the same thing with me, and even find mistake in my edits? I feel that he looks like he is monitoring my every edit. I don't believe that's a coincidence at all.--Kai3952 (talk) 09:15, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
@Kai3952:: Solomon203 and you are both prolific contributors to Commons. This means that you're likely to end up working on the same files purely by chance. Indeed even if you were both choosing files to edit purely at random, there would be an expected 627 files that both of you have edited. I suspect, though, that you have similar interests, so it wouldn't be at all surprising if there were thousands of files that you'd both worked on.
While Commons:Harassment is only a half-finished draft, it and en:Wikipedia:Harassment both say that following another user's edits is not necessarily harassment. It's also a perfectly legitimate way of finding things that can be improved. If I find a mistake in one file I will often look at the uploader's contributions to see if they've made the same mistake elsewhere because this is an efficient way to correct lots of mistakes at once. You should consider what evidence you have of Solomon203's motives, and whether they've done anything that indicates that they're not simply trying to improve Commons.
I get the impression that English is not your best language, and Solomon203 only claims en-1. Is your Chinese good enough that you might do better communicating with them in Chinese? In any case, I would suggest that you add a Babel box to your user page indicating your linguistic abilities, since this will generally make it easier for other users to decide how to communicate with you. This is not just a matter of which language to use, but also how to use it: I will use much simpler English when writing for someone who claims en-1 than for someone who claims en-3.
Finally, to answer your actual question, Commons:Dispute resolution is Commons' minimal guide to handling this kind of thing. I think you're at the "Consider asking other users for advice" stage, and my advice is above. --bjh21 (talk) 09:56, 11 August 2019 (UTC)


I have a question about registration to commons: on the page create account there is a field asking for my email address: will anyone be able to see it once i register?

Thank you
— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 11:00, 11 August 2019‎ (UTC)
Entering an email address is optional, and your email address will not be publicly visible. LX (talk, contribs) 11:04, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
However, if you then choose to email another user, they will then be able to see your email address.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 13:40, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

I thought that it was compulsory, but anyway I think I'd like to do that so I can to recover my password if I lose it. If I do that will administrators be able to see it if I don't email them?

As an administrator, I cannot see your password email address if you do not email me. There may be some few people with enough privileges to do that, I'm not sure: does anyone know, are email addresses encrypted in the database? - Jmabel ! talk 15:24, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
My password? Do you mean my email? —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 12:06, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
I believe so. Pinging @Jmabel to be sure.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 12:09, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Sorry, yes, correcting. - Jmabel ! talk 15:54, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Photograph of a publicly visible memorial plaqueEdit

What can I upload to Wikimedia Commons? suggests that I can only upload my photographs of art, statues and buildings over 150 years old. Can you confirm that this means that I may not upload my own photograph of a memorial plaque dated 1990 on private land visible from a public highway (in the UK)? AlanS1951 (talk) 19:08, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

@AlanS1951: Please see COM:FOP UK.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 21:03, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
@AlanS1951: FOP-UK only applies to things "in" a public place rather than "visible from" a public place. However, the plaque may be below the threshold of originality depending on its content. If it's just explanatory text without any discernible creative input, it may be eligible here. You'd have to upload it so we can make a judgement. Rodhullandemu (talk) 23:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, both. I have now uploaded to File:Plaque_at_site_of_Chipley_Priory.jpg. AlanS1951 (talk) 09:22, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

@AlanS1951: I've added some categories for you. Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with that not acquiring a copyright because it consists only of facts in the public domain and very simple and ancient designs. Rodhullandemu (talk) 09:29, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
@Rodhullandemu: Thank you for the useful categories. To say that all the facts recorded are "in the public domain", are we relying on the fact that the plaque has been publicly visible since 1990? AlanS1951 (talk) 09:38, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
@AlanS1951: Sorry, perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I meant that facts that are common knowledge (or readily ascertainable) do not have copyright. The length of time a creative work has been visible usualy has no bearing on copyright. It's the manner of representation that might attain copyright. Rodhullandemu (talk) 09:51, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
@Rodhullandemu: Thank you for your reply. Just to keep you updated, I didn't think that we could safely assume that all the facts recorded were common knowledge prior to publication on the plaque, or that they had been readily ascertainable elsewhere (as I didn't have time to attempt to check on Web and/or by visiting County Records Office), so I have contacted the Clopton Family Association to ask if they assert copyright on any of the information.
I am awaiting a considered response, but the initial response was “unless and until you hear otherwise, please act on the premise that the information recorded as it is in its entirety on the plaque - and therefore reproduced as it would be on any photograph - is held in full copyright by our association”. If this remains their position, I will explain your position and ask which specific portions of the information they believe to be original creative content that have acquired copyright.
In the meantime, I am reluctant to ask you to delete the file pending re-upload, as it took me quite a while to work out what to write at each stage of the upload process, but you may wish to do so anyway. AlanS1951 (talk) 20:27, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

@AlanS1951: Sorry, I have to disagree with them. Facts themselves cannot be subject to copyright, "common knowledge" or not. All these facts are, or could be, readily ascertainable from historical records of the church and elsewhere. Neither does organising facts in a particular way create any copyright. The only right that might be relevant is a en:wp:Database right when they are held in electronic form. Here they are not (although they may be elsewhere), but that does not arise since the Wikimedia servers are in the United States, whose law does not recognise database right. I would ignore them and hope they go away, they are either optimistic, badly advised or bluffing and I see no reason to delete this image as things stand at present. As for the other design elements of the plaque, they are either too simple to acquire copyright or are of such antiquity that they have never acquired copyright status, i.e. are public domain. Hope that helps. Rodhullandemu (talk) 20:45, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

@Rodhullandemu: I'm happy to accept your opinion, as I could use the file in a Wikipedia article, leaving you to deal with any flak from the Association!
— Preceding unsigned comment added by AlanS1951 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
I should point out that I'm no longer a lawyer any more than I am a real doctor! Rodhullandemu (talk) 17:29, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

My file was signaled as "possible copyright violation" unjustly.Edit

Please give me detail instructions on how to replace the copyvio tag with a regular deletion request?

Thank you.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachaxis (talk • contribs) 13:45, 12 August 2019‎ (UTC)
@Coachaxis: Please click the "Convert to DR" button at File:Tmodis.jpg.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 14:59, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Use of a movie frameEdit

An author has published a frozen photogram of a documentary made in 1933, as a proof of an action nobody has notice before.

Is it possible tu upload the picture in a Wikipedia page? Thanks!
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Demetrio E. Brisset (talk • contribs) 16:13, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Can you be more specific? Ruslik (talk) 16:33, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

I made a digital photo of a frame of a 1933 documentary, whose productor died in 1936.

I published it in a book and a scientific journal on internet. It illustrates an important action in the film, unnoticed to spectators due to its very short length.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilarion1 (talk • contribs) 12:47, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
@Hilarion1: In what countries was the documentary produced and first published, and what years were those events?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 13:02, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
In Spain, event happens in 1933
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilarion1 (talk • contribs) 13:12, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
@Hilarion1: Thanks. Sorry, you may not upload it to Commons because it was still copyrighted in Spain on 1 January 1996 (59 years into the 80 year pma term at the time), so the URAA put it under copyright in the US for 95 years from publication, through 2028 per en:Wikipedia:Non-U.S. copyrights. If Spanish Wikipedia had an EDP which allowed local uploads regardless of US copyright, you could upload there.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 16:16, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilarion1 (talk • contribs) 09:43, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Ajout d'articles de presse, quel licence commons ?Edit


Je viens de créer un article Wikipedia concernant un Footbaleur. j'ai uploadé des articles de presse des années 20,30,40,50,60 et 70 ( journaux qui n’existent plus aujourd’hui), pour avoir des références sur mon nouveau article wikipedia.

un moderateur Wikipedia veux supprimer ces documents ajoutés!? il justifie comme quoi cela ne respecte pas les règles Wikipedia.

pouvez vous m'aider Merci

L'article Wikipedia concerne le Footballeur français ROGER CALMELS.


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Icalmels (talk • contribs) 18:20, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Right. You cannot upload copies of copyrighted material here just because you want to cite them. Cite accurately in Wikipedia about where they came from, but do not upload them here unless they are either public domain or free-licensed. - Jmabel ! talk 00:00, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Uploading from Android or the cloudEdit

Hi, I would like to upload several thousands of photos from my Android (Huawei CLT-L29). I tried both the Commons and the CommonsLab app but both had too many nuisances.

Then I considered uploading the images to the cloud (Google Drive, OneDrive and my personal webspace but found no way to upload files from the cloud. I have several terabytes of web space but nearly no physical drive space as my Android is brimfull and my other device is a chromebook. To make things worse the chromebook is useless as inbetween: its file manager seems unable to handle more than just a few gigabyte of files, refusing to show more than some five hundred photos and randomly removing files when performance is lagging.

Batch upload from my Android is impossible as there are personal images scattered between those for Commons. Batch uploading to the cloud and selectively uploading from there to Commons would be okay however.

The ideal solution should:

  • show the pictures (2:1 aspect ratio) in full, even in multiple selection mode
  • allow selection from list and thumbnail as well as full screen photo.

These are the most important. Additional would-haves:

  • allow selection of folders (or even zip files)
  • offer help with categorizing and other technicalities.

Any suggestions to get it done either directly or via the cloud or my website? Or perhaps using some clever tricks? Thanks a lot! — bertux 21:14, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Can you access your cloud content as if it were a disk drive on some machine? If so, then one of the batch uploading tools such as Commons:Commonist might work for you. - Jmabel ! talk 15:59, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

What is a photograph?Edit

Please take a look at this one: "File:國立中興大學102校慶演唱會工作人員紀念合影 20131103.jpg". I am not sure if this is a photograph.--Kai3952 (talk) 09:56, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

@Kai3952: Why are you not sure?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 10:13, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
@Kai3952: I think the top part is a photograph. The bottom part (the blue text on a white background) isn't. Overall, though (and for categorisation purposes), it's a photograph. --bjh21 (talk) 10:20, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: Because he/she wrote in the image: "國立中興大學94周年度校慶演唱會工作人員紀念合影 102.11.03".--Kai3952 (talk) 10:24, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
@Bjh21: Is there no problem if I do it(add the "Group photographs in Taiwan" category to the image)?--Kai3952 (talk) 10:30, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
@Kai3952: I think that would be an entirely appropriate category. --bjh21 (talk) 11:09, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikimania 2019 logo.pngEdit

Hi, I used this file and I added white background. Is this file under correct licence? --Patriccck (talk) 11:19, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Original autor is @BFlores (WMF): (ping) --Patriccck (talk) 11:59, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
And what about this file? It this file published under correct licence? --Patriccck (talk) 18:21, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
The licenses are ok, but I don't think you would get your own copyright for adding a white background. Effectively this is what you get automatically when you export the SVG to a raster format without transparency. De728631 (talk) 19:41, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Picture of João Félix on the french wikipédiaEdit


I found a picture of João Félix on the English wikipedia and I was wondering if I could use it on the french Wikipedia. If i'm not mistaken it's a creative commons so i'm free to use it but I prefer ask ^^

Thank you very much !
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Crackdebola (talk • contribs) 20:03, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Best way to attain photo of video game cartridge / box art?Edit


I am rather new to Wikipedia and I would like to upload a photo to an article that greatly needs one. The article is the article for the 1994 Sega video game The Berenstain Bears' Camping Adventure. I own a copy of the original cartridge, and I took a picture of it and I would like to upload this to wikimedia commons to use on my article. After reading your list of tips, however, I decided I shouldn't because I don't own the artwork on the cartridge. How would you suggest I get a hold of a legally OK image, either of this cartridge or of the box art for this videogame? again, I am pretty new to wikipedia -- I figured i'd rather be safe than sorry when it comes to copyright stuff like this.


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pigsticks (talk • contribs) 02:34, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Pigsticks:Thank you. Such image is actually fair use, and Wikimedia Commons does not allow fair use per COM:FU. However, English Wikipedia does allow such fair use. Please refer to w:WP:NFCC and w:WP:FU for more information, and please never upload such images to Commons, regards.廣九直通車 (talk) 03:00, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Request for file/figure deletion of Piskacek Figures v9b and Chapter 9aaTAD on Activation domain pageEdit

Please delete my own work from wiki.

User Artoria2e5 rewrote 9aaTAD in to mocking term acid-9aaTAD, what is harmful parody because 9aaTAD opposes need of acid residues especially in representative of the acidic ADs as is the Gal4 (Activation domain page). The figure should not assist them to harm. moreover, they suppose the content of the figure (AD binding to KIX, Piskacek Figures v9b) as definition for activation domains, what is also completely wrong. User Artoria2e5 continue with mocking on Gal4 page too.

I request immediately withdraw of all my contribution (all my text and my figure), because of harmful modification, from now correctly called “Transcription domain” page (previously oddly named “Transactivating domain”)

Thank you very much,

Martin Piskacek
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Piskacek (talk • contribs) 15:22, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Piskacek: Please see COM:DR.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 15:34, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Piskacek: I suspect that if you link the files where you feel something inappropriate occurred, we can sort things out. Without that, we haven't a chance. The only thing I can see [User:Artoria2e5]] doing to any related image is adding a category. - Jmabel ! talk 16:29, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Copyright for old postcardsEdit


may I upload a scan of an illustration appearing on an old postcard (1915)?


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Shawnpg (talk • contribs) 15:23, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Shawnpg: What is the postcard's country of origin?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 15:31, 14 August 2019 (UTC)


Do I have to have a copyright to upload my work to Wikipedia Commons?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Estar8806 (talk • contribs) 18:29, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Estar8806: Hi, and welcome. Yes, but you have it automatically for each work you created since 1978.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 22:12, 14 August 2019 (UTC)


how to apply your information on Wikimedia.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gasana claude (talk • contribs) 19:04, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Gasana claude: Hi, and welcome. Please see en:Help:Pictures.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 22:08, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

New sectionEdit

Page notice
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mediational (talk • contribs) 21:07, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Mediational: Hi, and welcome. Please be more specific.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 22:02, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

uploaded photoEdit

I uploaded a jpg photo of a certificate "GAR Aide-de-camp" to the commons for the Grand Army of the Republic but I don't see it. When I tried re-loading it today, the message said it was a duplicate.

Joe Vignos
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nimishillen (talk • contribs) 03:33, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
@Nimishillen:Your file is actually here. You may check your uploads by using Special:ListFiles, and type in your user name. You can also check your uploads by accessing your user talk page, and there should be a link to all of your uploads at the left-hand corner, regards.廣九直通車 (talk) 04:58, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Question regarding uploadingEdit

Пытаюсь загрузить фотографию, разрешение на использование мне предоставили, могу передать вам подтверждение. Повторно загрузить не удаётся. Как загрузить? Спасибо

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ip190684 (talk • contribs) 08:06, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Смотрите Commons:OTRS/ru. Ruslik (talk) 14:50, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Junior high schools in TaiwanEdit

Sometimes people misunderstand the use of the "Junior high schools in Taiwan" category. In fact, Taiwan generally uses junior high schools for middle schools rather than high schools. I discussed this with User:そらみみ two weeks ago(see here), I also remembered the discussion from last year at User talk:Russian Rocky(see here). What I want to ask is: What will we have to do in order to avoid misunderstanding?--Kai3952 (talk) 11:57, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

If "secondary school" is synonymous with "junior high school", then we should not put it in Category:High schools in Taiwan.--Kai3952 (talk) 12:05, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
"junior high school" and "middle school" are nearly synonyms in common American English usage. Both always include grades 7 & 8; a "middle school" may contain grade 6, a "junior high school" may include grade 9.
Sticking for the moment to American English usage: we consider only our high schools (either grades 9-12 or 10-12) to be "secondary schools".
Does that make it easier to map the Taiwan cases to this terminology? - Jmabel ! talk 00:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Are you talking about the American education system? In Taiwan, a junior high school for students grade 7 (age 12–13) through grade 9 (age 14–15); and senior high school, for students from grade 10 (age 15–16) to 12 (age 17–18). Is there no problem if I do it(add "High schools in Taiwan" on the bottom of "Junior high schools in Taiwan" category page)?--Kai3952 (talk) 15:13, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Again, I can only speak for the U.S. Here, at least, "high school" and "senior high school" are synonyms. - Jmabel ! talk 15:43, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
So what about "junior high school"?--Kai3952 (talk) 19:55, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure I understand your question. As I said above, more or less interchangeable with "middle school," except that it can often include grade 9 and almost never includes grade 6. What is unclear? - Jmabel ! talk 21:08, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

copyright issueEdit

can i use a company's logo picture without asking them or is it a form of plagiarism
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Smitpshah17 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
"Plagiarism" and "copyright violation" are two overlapping but different issues, and permission is relevant only to copyrights:
  1. "Plagiarism" means passing off someone else's work as your own. It is a moral question of intellectual honesty, not a legal matter.
  2. "Copyright violation" means using copyrighted material without permission. Copyright is a matter of law.
  3. Also, although you don't mention it, there is another relevant body of law: trademarks
So, to cover the possible cases in terms of company logos:
Consider a very simple logo (just text, typography, and maybe very simple geometric shapes). It cannot be copyrighted, though it may be trademarked.
  1. If you pass off the logo as your own work, or if you design a very similar logo based on this logo, arguably you would be plagiarizing.
  2. Also, if the logo is trademarked and you fail to acknowledge the trademark, you could be violating trademark law. On Commons, we handle that simply by applying the {{Trademark}} template.
  3. There is no copyright to violate.
Now consider a more complicated logo, which can be copyrighted; unless it is very old (e.g. a Proctor and Gamble logo from the 1800s) it almost certainly is copyrighted. For a copyrighted work:
  1. The plagiarism question is exactly the same as above.
  2. The trademark question is exactly the same as above.
  3. In addition, if you use it without the company's permission, you are violating their copyright.
- Jmabel ! talk 16:00, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


— Preceding unsigned comment added by RCROSSROADS (talk • contribs) 17:38, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
@RCROSSROADS: Welcome to Wikimedia Commons! The usual way to contact a user is to write on the user's talk page. Links to that appear in most places where the user's name appears (for instance, mine is at User talk:Bjh21 and is linked from my signature). The "Add topic" link at the top of the talk page will allow you to add a new message. Note that anything you write on a user's talk page is visible to everyone. If you want to get in touch with a user privately, you might find an "Email this user" link in the left sidebar on their talk page. This will only be there if they've allowed other users to contact them by email, though. --bjh21 (talk) 18:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
For the "Email this user" link to show up, both the sender and the receiver must have provided an email address. It looks like RCROSSROADS hasn't done that. LX (talk, contribs) 21:50, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Uploaded Picture needs to go on webpageEdit

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia, I just signed up today.

I already uploaded a picture of Toronto that I took from Toronto Island onto Wikipedia. Now I need to get that picture onto the Wikipedia page that sais Toronto. I thought I copied and paisted the picture on the Toronto Wikipedia page correctly but I still don't see the picture on the webpage.

Here is the link I pasted:   
A view of Toronto from Toronto Island
 can anyone give me some help? Thanks 
 Kind Regards 
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Travelmodel777 (talk • contribs) 17:54, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
@Travelmodel777: Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, and thank you for the picture! You didn't edit the page you thought you were editing. You successfully added the picture to c:Toronto, which is the gallery page here on Wikimedia Commons about Toronto. You'll notice it has lots of pictures but not many words. You probably wanted instead to add it to en:Toronto, which is the article about Toronto on English Wikipedia. --bjh21 (talk) 18:30, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
PS: I've straightened your picture up a bit. I hope you don't mind. If you do mind, you can undo my change by going to File:A view of Toronto from Toronto Island.jpg and choosing "revert" in the "File history" section towards the bottom of the page. --bjh21 (talk) 18:38, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Sarna photo Teahouse advice leads to challenging questionEdit

At WP:Teahouse I was told (

I don't know if you can link across the different language Wikipedias. I think if you right click to download it to your computer, and then upload it to commons with the upload wizard, and include in the permissions that it's a photo of a deceased person, you'll get a link that works. You could also include the link to the original file in the notes, and if there are any problems, someone in OTRS will help you straighten it out.

The Hebrew Wiki photo appears to be an old newspaper clipping photo (8K, pixilated), of someone who died in 1969; subject's age is middle-age, and Israeli law mentions something about 51 years.

Here's my dilemma: asks "Author(s) - The name of the person who took the photo, or painted the picture, drew the drawing, etc. (This field is required)"

The Hebrew wiki lacks that basic info. says (in English, below the Hebrew text) "This is a Fair use file." The Hebrew text on the "rights" tab's page specifically mentions (my translation) 'use in Wikipedia.'

WP:Teahouse instructed me to download and re-upload, and also to include "it's a photo of a deceased person." says ask if I need help.

Supplementary detail:

In looking for the name of who took the picture, I encounterd one screen with two circled orange "C"s: One was with a Hebrew sentence, one with a large letter "W" intertwined with it. From a basic self-translation, it looks like the picture is restricted to Wikipedia for regular use (ShiMush=use, HaGoon usually means normal or regular, but it has other meanings too). After saying "BeWikipedia" ("Be" prefix means in), it subsequently says what I read as 'about/in connection with' and then names the subject, (Rabbi) Yechezkel Sarna. Most suspiciously, despite the author declarations, next to the single Hebrew word MeKor (SOURCE) it has a question mark. I can't fill in the question as to who took the picture, so I can't follow the WP:Teahouse advice. A URL for a translation of the above-described file is My personal two cents is that this 8K (yes K, not Mb) file is from a newspaper, and from the appearance, meets the Israeli public domain laws. Also, for whatever it's worth, it appears that it exists in non-(Wiki)mirrors / online. The bottom says "Content is available under CC BY-SA 3.0 terms unless otherwise stated" but the Hebrew seems to be a possible, if not likely, "otherwise." Help? Pi314m (talk) 19:41, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

@Pi314m: Sorry, but we don't allow Fair Use here on Commons. If you want to use the file on English Wikipedia, please read WP:F.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 16:59, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Massive EXIF data removal or editingEdit

How can I massively remove or edit EXIF data from a large number of documents? Both Windows or Linux solutions are good for me.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 21:01, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

putting a photo into the public domainEdit

Hi, how do I put a photo into the public domain? Nocturnalnow (talk) 21:56, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Nocturnalnow: The best way is to use {{cc-zero}}. This is available under "Use a different license" in the "Release rights" step of the Upload Wizard. Of course, you can only do this if you are the copyright holder of the photo to begin with. LX (talk, contribs) 23:29, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Uploading figures from scientific publicationsEdit

Hi I am a member of a scientific collaboration, On behalf of the collaboration I have uploaded images to our experiment's wikipedia page. This involved uploading images from collaboration publications. I'm unsure about the requirements of the licensing, what would constitute "permission" for the use of the images?

Thanks in advance.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by ArgonMan (talk • contribs) 23:16, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @ArgonMan: The simplest would be if you could make the grant of a free license visible in an online version of the publication that is under your control as copyright holder(s). Is that possible? If not, we can talk about other ways to address this. - Jmabel ! talk 01:26, 17 August 2019 (UTC)


How do I upload a picture?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikendgeria Girl 3 (talk • contribs) 09:25, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
User:Wikendgeria Girl 3: You follow the link that says Upload file (the first item under "Participate" in the menu on the left) and follow the instructions. LX (talk, contribs) 09:49, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

why Wikipedia not publish my pageEdit
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Osbertgill (talk • contribs) 09:58, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
@Osbertgill: Essentially because it has no sources at all. The purpose of a Wikipedia article is to summarize what has been written about the subject elsewhere, so you need to say what sources you used when writing the article. Similarly, a company should only have a Wikipedia article if the company is notable, which roughly means that it must have a significant amount written about it by reliable, independent sources. The page en:Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) explains how this works for companies. If you have further questions, you should ask them on the help desk or Teahouse of English Wikipedia. This help desk is really for help with Wikimedia Commons rather than Wikipedia. --bjh21 (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
The OP was blocked on enwiki as a sock of spammer Deepkabir.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 16:52, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

upload stamp from RomaniaEdit


i would like to upload the stamp set Eve from this source. According to my interpretation of the rules of romania, stamps are in the public domain and therefore can be used here and uploaded. I should use this template, but i don't quite understand where in the upload proces and how i can use this template, so i would like some help. (by the way geerestein2 is my second account because i don't know the password for Geerestein)--Geerestein2 (talk) 15:53, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Geerestein2: If you use the Upload Wizard, in the "Release rights", select "This file is not my own work", enter appropriate source and authorship information, select "Another reason not mentioned above", select "The license is described by the following wikitext" and enter {{PD-RO-exempt}}. LX (talk, contribs) 16:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
it seemed to have worked, thanks!! --Geerestein2 (talk) 16:54, 17 August 2019 (UTC)