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Tip: Categorizing images

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Hello, Ambre Troizat!

Tip: Add categories to your files

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

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For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

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CategorizationBot (talk) 10:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

• Image:Le Chevalier de Saint-George mémoire.jpg was uncategorized on 9 August 2010 CategorizationBot (talk) 10:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC). Fait --Ambre Troizat (talk) 21:25, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
• Image:Rue de la Réunion Fontenay-sous-Bois.jpg was uncategorized on 12 October 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:04, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
• Image:Costume de Rose Dupuis Jenny Beaufort dans Lord Davenant.jpeg was uncategorized on 6 January 2012 CategorizationBot (talk) 10:47, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Image:Costume de Rose Dupuis Jenny Beaufort dans Lord Davenant.jpeg has Categories:

   * Actresses from France
   * Theatrical costume
   * 19th century
   * Media needing categories as of 6 January 2012

I think we need to take of the tag "Ce fichier n'est pas catégorisé." and "Media needing categories as of 6 January 2012". What I am going to do. I think the problem is solved for the following pictures :

• Image:Rue de la Réunion Fontenay-sous-Bois.jpg : Category:Fontenay-sous-Bois
• Image:Le Chevalier de Saint-George mémoire.jpg : Categories: Joseph Boulogne de Saint-George, Fencing in art, 18th century, Fencing in the 18th century, Fencing in the 21st century. --Ambre Troizat (talk) 12:52, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Hallo Ambre Troizat, you had asked at Commons talk:Welcome log#Uncategorised image "I realy do not understand where is the mistake.".

Answer: Is your question solved already? If not, regarding which file is your question? In general: the message above just tells you that some of your uploaded files have not yet beet categorized. Categories help people to find your files. --Saibo (Δ) 18:09, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Réponse à tes questions

Bonsoir Ambre, J'ai posté les réponses à tes questions ici. Bonne soirée, --Copyleft (talk) 21:06, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Merci Copyleft. J'ai bien pris note. Je te remercie pour l'autorisation d'usage. --Ambre Troizat (talk) 21:32, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

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File:Arrêté portant défense aux Noirs, Mulâtres et autres gens de couleur, d'entrer sans autorisation sur le territoire de la République p816.jpg

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 Done --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 16:53, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

File:Arrêté portant défense aux Noirs, Mulâtres et autres gens de couleur, d'entrer sans autorisation sur le territoire de la République p817.jpg

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 Done --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 16:51, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

File:Arrêté portant défense aux Noirs, Mulâtres et autres gens de couleur, d'entrer sans autorisation sur le territoire de la République p815.jpg

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 Done --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 16:50, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

File:Arrêt du Conseil d'Etat du Roi nomme Bollongne 15 mai 1785 02.png

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There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful information about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which license to choose. Thank you.

This message was added automatically by Nikbot, if you need some help about it please read the text above again and follow the links in it, if you still need help ask at the → Commons:Help desk in any language you like to use. --Nikbot 20:59, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

 Done --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 16:46, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Autopatrol given

Hello. I just wanted to let you know that I have granted autopatrol rights to your account; the reason for this is that I believe you are sufficiently trustworthy and experienced to have your contributions automatically marked as "reviewed". This has no effect on your editing, it is simply intended to make it easier for users that are monitoring Recent changes or Recent uploads to find unproductive edits amidst the productive ones like yours. In addition, the Flickr upload feature and an increased number of batch-uploads in UploadWizard, uploading of freely licensed MP3 files, overwriting files uploaded by others and an increased limit for page renames per minute are now available to you. Thank you. INeverCry 20:50, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Merci. Je n'avais pas encore mesuré l'importance de la confiance accordée. C'est fait.

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File:Gratien Candace, 1914.png

File:Gratien Candace, 1914.png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

JeanBono (talk) 09:07, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Pour des conseils à de nouveaux contributeurs sur la Guadeloupe

Bonjour Ambre, je ne suis pas un spécialiste de Commons, mais je dirais que mettre la ville et le département est un peu redondant. J'aurais tendance à ne mettre que la ville. Et rajouter bien sûr toute catégorie qui peut définir le thème de la photo. Aristoi (talk) 23:04, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Photo de Dumas

Bonjour. Je voulais vous poser une question à propos de cette photo que vous avez tèléchargé: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Portrait_d%27Alexandre_Dumas_par_Gouin,_c.1852.png&uselang=fr J'imagine de l'utiliser pour un projet hors de Wikipédia et voudrais être sûr que l'image est dans le domaine public. La source déclarée est le Musée d'Orsay, mais le lien emmène à une page (http://www.histoire-image.org/site/etude_comp/etude_comp_detail.php?i=655&d=1&m=Alexandre%20Dumas&id_sel=1140) qui dit: 'Contact copyright : Agence photographique de la Réunion des musées nationaux'. Et si on la regarde en plein cadre, on trouve cette phrase: © Photo RMN-Grand Palais - H. Lewandowski. Puis-je vous demander où vous avez trouvé le fichier, qu'on peut télécharger aussi en HD? Merci, --Andale-oh (talk) 22:22, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Je suis désolée de ne pas avoir encore répondu à votre question. Je vais vérifier sur Européana. C'est vraiment une erreur de ma part.--Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 08:41, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

En fait, il faut voir les références sur cette page. Bien à vous --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 18:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Copyright status: File:Essai sur les sources de l'histoire des Antilles françaises.djvu

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No required license templates were detected at this file page. Please correct it, or if you have any questions please check my FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Yours sincerely, Jarekt (talk) 15:44, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

 Done : Licencence ajoutée. --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 18:04, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

De las Casas Brevissima relación and Regionum Indicarum

Brevisima relación de la destrucción de las Indias. ~ Narratio regionum Indicarum per Hispanos quosdam devastatarum verissima , priùs quidem per episcopum Bartholemaeum Casaum, natione Hispanum Hispanicè conscripta, & anno 1551. Hispali, Hispanicè, anno verò hoc 1598. Latinè excusa

Dear Ambre,

I saw you created an interesting page for De las Casas: Brevisima relación de la destrucción de las Indias (1552) where you bring together images from different sources and editions. I would be very interested in images from the original edition of 1552 (if there were any, nice to see the title pages). You have added pictures from the much later German Latin edition of Regionum...(1664), that i uploaded. But artist Joos van Winghe, whose name is written ("Iodo a Winghe inv") on a number of the pictures (not all!) from Regionum.. (1664), was only born around 1544, so he is not likely to be the author of pictures in Brevissima (1552). Engraver De Bry was 26 in 1552.

• Your page on Brevissima... should only contain images that really stem from that edition.
• I have put the page in the general category about De Las Casas, as it does not pertain specially to Regionum

Agree? Kind regards, Hansmuller (talk) 12:21, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

• PS. English wikipedia states: "The images described by Las Casas were later depicted by Theodor de Bry in copper plate engravings that helped expand the Black Legend against Spain." which implies that Brevisima...(1552) did not contain images by de Bry, shown in Regionum (1664)

Hi, Hansmuller

Je ne suis pas une spécialiste de Las Casas. J'avais seulement observé que Brevisima relación de la destrucción de las Indias, n'était pas facilement accessible en français sous une licence domaine publique. Je considère cet ouvrage comme capital dans le processus de décolonisation et d'abolition de la traite et de l'esclavage, j'ai commencé une page pour explorer les ressources présentes sur Wikimedia Commons. Je viens de trouver une édition en français qui date de 1620.

Les informations que vous apportez sont interressantes. Je pense toutefois qu'il vaut mieux mettre tout ce qui se rapporte à l'ouvrage sur la même page de synthèse qui n'est pas concurrente d'une page "category" plus restrictive.

Serait-il possible de transférer cet échange en page de discussion de Brevisima relación de la destrucción de las Indias ? D'autres contributeurs ou chercheurs pourraient y participer.

Merci pour votre intéret et vos contributions. --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 20:30, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Très brève relation de la destruction des Indes, 1552, Bnf-Gallica --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 12:18, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Bonjour Yann,
Peux-tu me dire

• Si cette question, qui date du 25 avril 2015, a été correctement résolue sur Commons ?
• Comment a évolué l'upload des ouvrages du même titre par édition et par langue ?
• quelle est la catégorie qui regroupe tous les ouvrages de Las Casas ?

Merci de ton attention Yann. Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 11:16, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Bonjour,

Pour la dernière question, c'est là : Category:Works by Bartolomé de las Casas.

Sinon, il faut une catégorie pour chaque ouvrage au moins (liée à une fiche Wikidata), ou même pour chaque édition, si cette dernière comprend plus de quelques fichiers. Voir par exemple, Category:Atlas curieux by Nicolas de Fer et ses sous-catégories. Yann (talk) 11:40, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Merci Yann,
Je verrai cela à mon retour. En comparant ce qui existe sur Wikidataet la Bibliographie sur fr.Wikipedia. Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 16:15, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Creator:''Jean Bodin''

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Tangopaso (talk) 20:38, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

@Tangopaso: Bonjour, Je ne comprends pas très bien la question ni la cause spécifique de la demande de suppression. Jean Bodin est un penseur européen, né en 1529 à Angers et mort en 1596, à Laon, en France. Peut-être est-ce une erreur dans l'écriture du modèle qu'il suffirait de corriger ? --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 13:41, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Bonjour ! A l'heure actuelle, il y a (fort légitimement) un modèle Creator:Jean Bodin qui est utilisé dans des articles. Mais il y a aussi ce modèle Creator:"Jean Bodin" (avec des ") qui est simplement un redirect vers le premier. Ce modèle en redirect me parait inutile. De plus, je l'ai découvert en travaillant à créer un nouveau modèle Creator : (Creator:Alfred Renaudin). Quand on commence à taper Creator: dans le champ de recherche en haut à droite, on voit apparaitre 4 modèles Creator avec des ". J'ai proposé la suppression de 2 d'entre eux. Il ne s'agit donc pas de supprimer un modèle utile et utilisé. Mais de supprimer ce qui est pour moi un redirect inutile et gêne les recherches. A ta disposition si pas clair. --Tangopaso (talk) 18:19, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

fr.Wikipédia ne signale qu'un seul Jean Bodin (voir aussi la page d’homonymie pour confirmation). Il est possible de vérifier qu'il n'y aucune confusion avec Joseph Bodin de Boismortier. Ces vérifications faites, je répondrai donc par une position de principe : tout doublon doit être supprimé. Puis-je avoir les url des pages en question ? Merci.

Creator:''Jules Michel Henry Mathorez''

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Tangopaso (talk) 11:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

 Done --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 15:08, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Adresse de l'image

Jeune fille tenant un éventail--Jfniort (talk) 10:43, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

File:Monsieur de Saint-George Ward Brown Angelo Meyer Gallica.jpg

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Rettinghaus (talk) 12:42, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

 Lu. Je déplore cette suppression. La qualité d'une archive est indépendante de ses qualités esthétiques. --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 09:02, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Bienvenue sur les projets Wikimedia

Bonjour, Tokounavi. J'ai été ravie de communiquer avec vous et de vous aider à créer votre compte. N'hésitez pas à reprendre contact avec mois si vous en avez besoin. --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 15:07, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Bonjour Tokounavi. La fiche de Progressites a été créée : Progressistes. Vous pouvez maintenant compléter les informations. --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 16:03, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

File:Théodore de Bry Colomb reçoit des présents des indigènes tandis que ses compagnons dressent une croix de bois.png

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Savvyjack23 (talk) 20:59, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Discussion à propos de "Images de la découverte des Amériques" (Théodore de Bry)

Bonsoir Savvyjack23,

J'ai pris connaissance de l'information. C'est une thèse que vous proposez . La question n'est pas simple. D'abord il s'agit d'images présentées dans des conditions différentes. L'espace-temps et les technologies utilisées font que les images sont différentes même si ces différences ne sautent pas aux yeux. Les textes qui accompagnent disent des contextes différents. D'après moi, il y aurait lieu d'uploder l'image des Rmn et l'image de la Librairie du Congrès. J'avais senti ces problèmes au moment d'uploader File:Théodore de Bry Colomb reçoit des présents des indigènes tandis que ses compagnons dressent une croix de bois.png mais, ce n'est pas ma période et je ne peux m'attarder sur ces questions. Le travail réalisé ici par de jeunes lycéens est assez intéressant et montre que l'on peut aller plus loin dans l'analyse de ces images. En conclusion, je pense qu'il n'y a pas lieu de supprimer ces images qui sont utiles pour l'historien et pour le pédagogue mais, d'améliorer leur description. J'essaie d'avoir l'avis d'un historien de l'art et pédagogue. --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 00:15, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Bonsoir Ambre Troizat,

Merci de prendre le temps de lire ma thèse. Je comprends votre préoccupation . Bien que je pense qu'il est remarquable d'avoir des interprétations différentes, ma grande préoccupation, cependant, est que quelqu'un peut facilement abuser de l'image. Par exemple, on voit l'image sur les articles d'Hispaniola et Bahamas (San Salvador), qui donnent tous deux du crédit à T. de Bry, les dernières images n'ayant pas mentionné que l'originalité a été modifiée par un auteur qui republie les images des centaines d'années plus tard . Les auteurs (ou sources secondaires) ne mentionnent même pas ce fait dans leurs publications. Si ce n'est plus un droit d'auteur, il est proche du plagerigisme. L'image en question n'est pas non plus de formes géométriques simples et est créée dans le seul but de la réplication, bien que les modifications mineures. Les changements ne sont pas suffisamment importants pour être considérés comme des illustrations distinctes.

Il n'est pas bon pour ces images de citer des dates telles que 1590 comme dans [1] (un autre dérivé; même avant l'original, c. 1594) pour rendre une légende qui arriva 300 ans plus tard, puis créditer T. de Bry pour les deux. (Je ne m'attends à aucune différence ici.) La légende devient une partie de l'image, qui n'est pas venue du stylo de T. de Bry. Le crédit n'est pas non plus donné à l'auteur qui a effectué ces modifications (par exemple P. L. Jacob, 1874) comme dans: "Manners, Customs, and Dress During the Middle Ages, and During the Renaissance Period" (pg 264).

Au premier coup d'œil, je n'avais aucune idée de l'original, jusqu'à une enquête plus approfondie. Tout éditeur qui cherche à apporter une contribution en téléchargeant une image dérivée sera également aveuglé par ces faits. Non?

Je conteste rarement les contributions, à moins d'être absolument nécessaire. Cette image est l'une des plus anciennes représentant le Nouveau Monde et il est trop important de perdre son message original, au respect de T. de Bry. (En outre, je ne peux pas localiser l'image dans la source que vous aviez fournie. [2])

Bien cordialement. Savvyjack23 (talk) 04:50, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Bonsoir Savvyjack23,

J'entends bien ce que vous dites qui est absolument fondé. Les personnes qui travaillent scientifiquement sur ces documents savent qu'ils ne sont pas fiables. De telles images existent pour fonder un argument dans le débat européen pour ou contre la colonisation, pour ou contre l'esclavage, pour ou contre la monarchie, &c., &c. D'où l'intérêt de les resituer dans leur contexte.

Autre chose est l'usage pédagogique de ces images avec des enseignants qui n'auraient pas reçus la formation nécessaire. Cette hypothèse implique la responsabilité des projets Wikimedia puisqu'ils constituent une des premières sources pour un si grand nombre de professionnels, de particuliers ou de jeunes.

J'ai réfléchit à cette question, par exemple en ce qui concerne le Code Noir. Mais, les travaux avancent lentement, soit parce que je ne peux y travailler toute l'année, soit parce que ceux avec lesquels je pourrais travailler n'ont pas la formation nécessaire sur les projets Wikimedia et ne peuvent accorder à cette formation le temps nécessaire, soit parce que nous sommes empêchés de faire ce travail scientifique. Les choses ne sont donc pas si simples que ça.

Dans ce contexte, quels moyens avons-nous, sur Wikimedia Commons, de traiter au mieux le sujet ?

Une possibilité est de faire ce travail sur Wikiversité car c'est un travail de recherche au moins niveau master I. Je tiens à préciser que je m'intéresse à ces images uniquement parce qu'elles appartiennent au champ si large de l'histoire des Amériques (celles-ci parlent des "origines"). Mais personne ne deviendra célèbre et riche pour avoir travaillé sur ces images (Enfin, c'est mon avis : l'avenir est plein de surprises.).

J'ai commencé à récapituler les informations disponibles à partir de votre message. Pouvez-vous corriger et compléter avec des éléments de l'enquête plus approfondie que vous avez réalisée ? Après, nous pourrons décider.

N.B. : Je maîtrise très mal les tableaux ; je ne les aime pas du tout... Un peu mieux les modèles...

--Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 11:20, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

"Images de la découverte des Amériques" (Théodore de Bry) : Récapitulatif

File:Théodore de Bry Colomb reçoit des présents des indigènes tandis que ses compagnons dressent une croix de bois.png

Caractéristiques de l’image
Titre de l’image : Théodore de Bry Colomb reçoit des présents des indigènes tandis que ses compagnons dressent une croix de bois
Texte manuscrit
Importé par Ambre Troizat
Date de l'import : 14 juillet 2016 
Commentaire : Gravure de Théodore de Bry décrivant l'arrivée de Christophe Colomb aux Amériques et la violence de la "rencontre" entre l'Europe et les Amériques.

File:Discovery of America 12th of May 1492 Columbus erects the Cross and baptizes the Isle of Guanahani by the Christian Name of St Salvador From a Stamp engraved on Copper by Th de Bry in the Collection of Grands Voyages in folio 1590.png

Caractéristiques de l’image
Guanahani était le nom donné par les indigènes à l'île que Christophe Colomb baptisa San Salvador quand il débarqua en Amérique le 12 octobre 1492
Texte imprimé.
Source : "Manners, Customs, and Dress During the Middle Ages, and During the Renaissance Period" (pg 264)
image citée ici

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Caractéristiques de l’image
Titre de l'image : La découverte des Amériques
Image colorisée
Utilisée par les scolaires : ? HISTOIRE - GEOGRAPHIE au Lycée Racine : Théodore de Bry, un graveur engagé ?

Sans texte

Autres sources

Document le plus fiable : Columbus landing on Hispaniola, Dec. 6, 1492 ; greeted by Arawak Indians
Hispaniola est le non de la colonie devenue franco-espagnole sous la dénomination de Saint-Domingue, puis divisée entre les Républiques de Haïti et de Saint-Domingue.
Source contestable : Réunion des Musées Nationaux,  Sans texte.

--Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 11:20, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

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Je ne comprends pas très bien pourquoi une image dérivée d'une autre image de Commons viole le droit d'auteur. Merci de me donner plus d'information et de me dire ce que je dois changer afin que les droits d'auteurs soient conformes. --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 19:54, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

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OK. Pas de problème. Nous en avons déjà discuté. --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 22:28, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

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JuTa 19:17, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

JuTa. I am too tired to answer your contribution. I would say words that did not suit with Wikimedia projects. --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 20:04, 30 March 2020 (UTC) @Galahmm: , Comprends-tu pourquoi j'étais si mécontente ? --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 20:04, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

@Ambre Troizat: Oui je comprends, et je ne comprends toujours pas comment ceci a pu se passer, car je n'ai pas eu de message de warning ou de message qu'il y avait une édition en cours, je n'ai pas "forcé" quelque chose en ajoutant la catégorie avec le petit "+" en dessous de l'image. Bref... passons à essayer de nous entre-aider maintenant. La prise de choux ne nous mènera à rien et je veux avoir toujours et encore une relation cordiale et bonne entre nous.

@JuTa: : I did a mistake on the day the Ambre Troizat published this work. It took her a lot of hours to do this design, and just after publishing it she was mentionned exactly which where the sources of where she has taken each of these images included in the design. As you can see on her wikisource and her wikisource contributions, she is much more experimented then my self. Please help us giving her time to upload again the details of the images which are all under the proper licence to be used here. It is my fault, not her. Concretely, I added the category "Noircir Wikipédia" clicking on the small "+" (plus sign) under the image while she was editing, adding the infos about the images in this design. Unfortunately, nothing appeared to me as "someone is editing, warning, conflit of edition". How can we proceed Ju? Thank you so much for your understanding.Galahmm (talk) 21:10, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

These two are the edits that made all the mess. If I cancel them, would the content of Ambre Troizat come back? :(

actudiff 12 mars 2020 à 21:27‎ Galahmm discussion contributions‎ m 1 011 octets +37‎ added Category:Ennegreciendo Wikipedia annuler Balise

actudiff 12 mars 2020 à 21:26‎ Galahmm discussion contributions‎ m 974 octets +32‎ added Category:Noircir Wikipédia annuler Balise

And here is the link where you can see all the work Ambre Troizat is doing right now, the image on commons is a design for that: wikisource/forumdesnouveaux/Livre:Rugendas - Voyage pittoresque dans le Brésil, 1827Galahmm (talk) 21:23, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Galahmm ! Ne t'en fais pas. Il faut en prendre & en laisser sur Commons. Comprendre que les questions de droits d'auteur sont primordiales sur Commons. Elles peuvent coûter très cher devant un tribunal. Quand je ne peux pas résoudre un problème similaire, je laisse tomber en imaginant que j'ai oublié un détail. Ne serait-ce que les polices de caractères... Figure-toi que lorsque j'ai uploadé le tout premier portrait de Joseph Bologne de Saint-George, il a été annulé... personne ne connaissait cet homme... Le portrait n'a pas reparu malgré tout ce que j'ai pu faire. Laissons le temps au temps. J'aurai toujours plaisir à travailler avec toi. Rugendas a été une belle aventure qui n'est pas terminée.--Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 21:36, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

What we need to know is: Where does the used images come from? Best via a source link. Its hard to believe he/she drawn them his/herself. When we have a source we need to know if they are still copyrighted or now if if yes if they are publihsed under a free license compatible to commons or not. --JuTa 05:13, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Ju

@Galahmm:

J'ai indiqué les éléments essentiels du collage. Je dois encore ajouter les logos. Merci de me dire tout de suite ce qui ne va pas, si nécessaire. Merci de n'exiger que le strict nécessaire aujourd'hui 31 mars, dernier jour du mois de la contribution francophone. Ensuite, je devrai uploader des images similaires mais qui indiquent que l'événement s'est adapté au confinement dû au coronavirus. --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 13:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thats now looking much more better. The only source link still required is for the Logo or image on top left. thx. --JuTa 15:33, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Les trois visuels sont maintenant en ligne. Je pense qu'il faudrait créer une page pour le visuel de l'événement en ligne. J'aimerais tant que quelqu'un vienne finaliser ce travail. Je suis HS. Merci. --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 18:44, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

@Ambre Troizat: je ne vais rien vous exiger, pour le projet Noircir Wikipédia c'est déjà un honneur que vous ayez eu le sentiment d'en faire partie et de nous proposer cet atelier ainsi que la contribution au mois de la contribution. Concernant l'aide que vous souhaitez pour finir le travail sur wikisource, je suis débordée et la thématique de comment faire pour attirer les participant.e.s d'un atelier de date unique sur le moyen terme est un sujet à réflexion. Galahmm (talk) 20:59, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Ju ! Je pense que le bandeau peut-être enlevé maintenant. Cela nous permettra de travailler plus sereinement. Merci de vos contributions qui nous ont permis d'apprendre à mieux contribuer sur Commons. N'hésitez pas à suivre la suite du travail sur Johann Moritz Rugendas. Sans oublier que la plupart des Wikimediens qui interviennent sur l'œuvre de ce peintre ne sont pas des spécialistes de Wikimedia Commons. Best regards for you and your family. --Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 14:10, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ju, thank you so much for your quick intervention both inserting the warning and deleting it when the necessary was achieved.Galahmm (talk) 21:09, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Smile, you are very wellcome. --JuTa 21:11, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

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Modèle Book

@Rency Inson Michel:

m:Book

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|Author={{Creator:''Prénom Nom''}}
|Translator=
|Editor=
|Illustrator=
|Title=''(obligatoire)''
|Subtitle=
|Series title=
|Volume=
|Edition=
|Publisher=''(obligatoire)''
|Printer=
|Date=''(obligatoire)''
|City=Paris
|Language=French
|Description=
|Source=''(lien vers le fichier djvu sur IA)''
|Permission=
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|Image page=''(numéro de la page de titre dans le fichier djvu - par ex. 5 si c'est la 5e page du fichier)''
|Pageoverview=''éventuellement, le nombre de pages du livre""
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|Homecat=
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--Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 11:12, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

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Affected:

• File:Ile quelle mer aimes-tu ?.jpg

Yours sincerely, A1Cafel (talk) 03:00, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Ok pour cette suppression

Droits d'auteur et droit de panorama concernés. Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 12:28, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Category:L'Atlas curieux (Nicolas de Fer, 1717)

Bonjour, J'ai trouvé une copie de ce document sur un autre site, qui permet d'automatiser le transfert. J'ai donc aussi importé les planches de texte. Si tu as d'autres documents à importer, dis-le moi. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 14:54, 19 July 2023 (UTC) PS : Tu devrais archiver ta page de discussion.

L'Atlas curieux (Nicolas de Fer, 1717)
Merci Yann.
Oui, j'aurais plusieurs ouvrages à télécharger. Je te communique les liens au fur & à mesure.
Je suis actuellement hospitalisée avec un programme d'activité assez intense. Mon activité sur Wikimedia est encore réduite. Je peux ne pas répondre rapidement.
A tout bientôt. Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 12:21, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Pour ce qui concerne l'archivage je voudrais "Archivage automatisé". mais, archivage de sections résolues est préférable ? Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 12:40, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Pourrais-tu jeter un oeil sur Le Code noir (France) ? Est-il possible d'améliorer cette page ? Et si tu trouves une édition que je ne connais pas, peux-tu me le signaler ?
merci de ton attention. Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 14:12, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Chronologies : ouvrages à uploader

Bonjour Yann,

Je voudrais uploader ces deux ouvrages au format djvu. Peux-tu m'aider ?
Si tu souhaites que j'upload les pdf moi-même, dis le mois.

1. Abrégé chronologique des événemens auquels la révolution française, 1796 ; Abrégé chronologique des événemens auquels la révolution française: a donne lieu à commencer au mois d'avril 1789 jusqu'à present, sur Google Livres
2. Heulhard de Montigny - Précis, ou tableau chronologique des événemens et de la législation de la révolution, 1803 ; format pdf sur Gallica

Merci de ton attention. Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 15:06, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Voilà le premier : File:Abrégé chronologique des événemens auquels la révolution française a donné lieu.pdf, File:Abrégé chronologique des événemens auquels la révolution française a donné lieu.djvu. Yann (talk) 21:35, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Voilà le second : File:Précis, ou tableau chronologique des événemens et de la législation de la révolution (bpt6k57006816).pdf. DjVu en cours. Yann (talk) 21:58, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Et voilà : File:Précis, ou tableau chronologique des événemens et de la législation de la révolution (bpt6k57006816).djvu. Yann (talk) 08:25, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Convertir un pdf en djvu

Merci Yann pour les documents précédents.

Peux-tu excercer ton art sur celui-ci : File:Louis XV - Edit concernant les esclaves nègres des colonies, Paris, oct. 1716, 1738.pdf ?
Attn ! le pdf fait déjà l'objet d'une page sur Wikisource.

Merci. A bientôt. Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 16:32, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

 Fait Je n'avais pas vu cette demande. File:Louis XV - Edit concernant les esclaves nègres des colonies, Paris, oct. 1716, 1738.djvu. Yann (talk) 19:03, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Merci, Yann.
Je reprends doucement. Très doucement.
Bonne semaine. Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 10:17, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Traduire "Charles Dain - De l'abolition de l'esclavage, 1836" en Djvu

Bonjour, Yann,

J'espère que tu as eu un bel été et je te souhaite une belle année wikimédienne.
Pourrais-tu traduire File:Charles Dain - De l'abolition de l'esclavage, 1836.pdf en Djvu pour fr.Wikisource ?

Je te remercie de tes contributions. Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 15:47, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

 Fait File:Charles Dain - De l'abolition de l'esclavage, 1836.djvu. Yann (talk) 18:54, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Le Provincial à Paris, ou Etat actuel de Paris

Bonjour @Yann

Pourrais-tu t'intéresser à ces trois éditions de l'ouvrage dont le titre plus long est "actuel de Paris ou le provincial à Paris, ouvrage indispensable à ceux qui veulent connoître & parcouris Paris, sans faire aucune question ..., 1788"

• Le Provincial à Paris, ou Etat actuel de Paris. (Q124564626), édition, 1787
• Etat actuel de Paris ou le provincial à Paris, (Q124537456), édition, 1788
• Etat actuel de Paris ou le provincial à Paris (Q124563745), édition, 1789

Je ne trouve pas de djvu que je puisse traiter.
Je te remercie de ton attention, Yann.
Au plaisir de te lire. Bel Bonjour, Ambre Troizat (talk) 17:07, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Joséphine Baker

Bonjour

la ressource : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%C3%80_la_page,_l%27hebdomadaire_des_jeunes.-_Comment_on_nettoyera_la_France.png?uselang=fr pointe comme source Gallica, plus précisément https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k958401v

La reproduction concernant Joséphine Baker ne comporte par ailleurs aucun numéro de page, contrairement aux pages du journal en question

Serait-il possible d'authentifier plus précisément cet extrait  ?

Merci JulienLecaille (talk) 16:02, 8 April 2024 (UTC)