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Re: Welcome, Dear Filemover!

Hi INeverCry,

Thank you so much! I hope to contribute better with that tool in my hands. I will keep in mind the instructions that you gave me.

Regards, Ivanhercaz | Discusión   10:34, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Deleted File:Tsugaru Testsudo Stove Train.jpg & File:Nakadomari-Machi.jpg


I recently added these files to the Nakadomari, Aomori page and received notice that they might be a copyright violation and could be deleted. I posted on the talk section for both photos that I am the creator and owner and the blog they are featured on is a past blog I contributed to. This morning I found them deleted with no further messages or guidance. What steps do I need to take to allow my photos to be used and stored on Wikipedia commons? Thank you.

TheoryJ (talk) 17:02, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

The blog publishing was the concern. I'm comfortable taking you at your word that these are your own works, especially considering the size and metadata. I've restored them. INeverCry (talk) 22:59, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Special Barnstar
Thank you for fixing up my images! MPD (t - c - u) 00:45, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
  • I'm glad I could help. INeverCry 00:46, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Deleted File Корреляция_курсов_рубля_и_нефти.png (correlation of ruble exchange rate and crude oil)

File:Корреляция_курсов_рубля_и_нефти.png del reason? viloated what? Roma.rr (talk) 02:09, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

{{copyvio|1=Not own, generated by; no source data and no chances to regenerate with better quality.}} INeverCry 02:15, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
what is copivio? I've made it using two charts, adding something. Ther was a source data in description (, why you say that no? donno why you mention quality, which is good enought too see and read. Roma.rr (talk) 02:20, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
This was tagged for deletion by @A5b: - perhaps he can explain it better in Russian. INeverCry 02:27, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
I did try to explain here: User_talk:Roma.rr (the image also was low quality) `A5b (talk) 02:31, 2 October 2016 (UTC) PS: the forexpf has direct prohibition of free usage (no CC0/PD/CC-BY; it is more like CC-BY-NC-SA) of their materials - ~ citing is allowed is no more then half of text is used and there is active http link to the source site (main page); any material or text can be fully used for non-commercial, header should be active link to the source page, no commercial usage or limiting access to copy; Any other use of any material should be paid as 15 USD per article.`A5b (talk) 02:42, 2 October 2016 (UTC)


The closure at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Pavillon de lEspagne républicaine en 1937 (Museo Nacional Centro de Arte Reina Sofía, Madrid) (4696114311).jpg is the opposite of your action. You may want to correct that. -- (talk) 12:08, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done. Thanks. Wikicology (talk) 16:16, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

File:MiaoGanJie (缪淦杰) dans une position typique du Baji Quan (1936).jpg

Hi there,

I am a bit new to Wikipedia, and puzzled about the copyright issues about illustrations. I have uploaded the "File:MiaoGanJie (缪淦杰) dans une position typique du Baji Quan (1936).jpg" that was just deleted. This picture was take and published in 1933 in China, in a booklet published by the "ShangHai Litterary Publishing House - 上海文业书局 ". The publishing company was closed before 1940 and there is no known inheritor of Mr Miao Ganjie who is represented in this picture. Beside, since copyright in China is only valid for 50 years, there is no reason why this picture should not be public domain now. Other articles on chinese martial arts have similar picture of known practitionners dating from the same era (Yang CHenFu, Sun LuTang), what would make this picture different from others ?

I thank you in advance for providing me any help about this issue...

— Preceding unsigned comment added by KaimenBaji (talk • contribs) 06:16, 03 October 2016 (UTC)
This isn't an area of specialty for me, so I would recommend that you file an undeletion request. INeverCry (talk) 22:45, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

File:Howard Wolf.jpg

Hello! I recently uploaded a photo you removed: Howard_Wolf.jpg . I happen to know the owner sent an email to permissions releasing rights to the photo. Also, I wasn't given 30 days. What happened?


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuneytommy (talk • contribs) 13:45, 03 October 2016 (UTC)
This had no license at all. If it did, you would've had the 30 days for OTRS to confirm the license. Files can't stay on Commons for more than a week without a license. As it is, we have to wait for OTRS to indicate which license will be used and confirm the release. INeverCry (talk) 22:49, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Diagram of hemisphere (geometry)is out of wikicommon

हमें विकिपीडिया हिंदी में लेख लिखने के लिए अर्ध गोले का चित्र चाहिए। --Teacher1943 (talk) 16:39, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but Google Translate makes no sense with the above message. INeverCry (talk) 22:52, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Delete oldest version

Hi, can you delete please the oldest version of this file File:Мадзій Ірина Богданівна - 16073245.jpg? The person on the foto asked for that, and the author of the upload is agree.--Andriy.v (talk) 20:01, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done But you need to add {{Information}} giving author/source info. INeverCry (talk) 22:54, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. I will add the information as soon as it will be possible.--Andriy.v (talk) 05:32, 4 October 2016 (UTC)


I was in the middle of removing speedies and you beat me to it!! I always check those uploaders for additional problems, I'm sure you do too... Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:15, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Of course!   INeverCry (talk) 18:21, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Copyvio files

All files uploaded by this user are copyvios. e.g. the source of this file clearly states that "Copyright © 2012 ivy-Baron All Rights Reserved.". Still the user wrongly tagged it in the public domain. Same is the case with his other uploaded files. In fact, he also removed all of the copyvios tags from the files. - NitinMlk (talk) 21:08, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done Uploads nuked, user warned. INeverCry (talk) 21:38, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! - NitinMlk (talk) 21:51, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Copyvio files

I noticed that as per the discussion Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by PubuduGk119 that all the images were to be deleted however it would appear that either some were missed or were re-uploaded by User:PubuduGk119. Rather than go through and post deletion notices on each of them can they be done as a batch. Also it would appear that in order to circumvent being identified as a serial poster of copyright material User:PubuduGk119 has created a sockpuppet User:Pubudualmeda, which has re-uploaded a stack of images which have all previously been deleted. Once again rather than post deletion notices on each is there a way to do them in a batch? Dan arndt (talk) 01:36, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done All files nuked, both accounts blocked. INeverCry (talk) 01:52, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks appreciate that. Dan arndt (talk) 02:46, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Files uploaded by Xerxessenior

Hello, I object to this closure by you. I think the first two images have no problems at all. Commons is not a place to editorilse on other projects (COM:EVID clearly does not apply about them). The files were in use and quality does not matter. With all due respect, I also think that you have a clear conflict of interest to close this request as "Not done" since you were the admin who deleted the files at the first place. Thank you 4nn1l2 (talk) 17:40, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

I've undone my close and added the request back to COM:UDEL (at the top). INeverCry (talk) 18:09, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Jhonny jhonny sock

Hey INeverCry. I think CoolDud (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · ⧼abusefilter-log⧽block user is a JJ sock. If so, please delete his uploads as well, and revert his (requested) renaming of File:Dr Raman Singh at Press Club Raipur Moohjj.jpg. Indopug (talk) 06:23, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done Sock blocked, edits erased. INeverCry (talk) 06:57, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

js page deletion


I wonder if you could please do me a favour and delete User:Begoon/purgeThumbnail.js for me. I don't need it any more, and I can't just put a {{db}} template on it, because that doesn't work on a js page... Thanks. --Begoon - talk 08:04, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done lNeverCry 08:10, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. --Begoon - talk 08:11, 6 October 2016 (UTC)


Hi INeverCry, If an image has been deleted can you still view the categories it was in or would you have to undelete it to see them ?, I only ask as you've deleted File:Image needs renaming - 0941 (27671863990).jpg however I have no idea what the image was or even what category it was in so I'm not sure if I've uploased the image from a dodgy person or what - I try & keep track of who I upload from as if the copysvio then continue I then know to stop uploaidng their images, Anyway sorry droning on, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 01:35, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

The page:

{{copyvio|1=2D tiled artwork}}
== {{int:filedesc}} ==
| Description = DSCN0941
| Source = [ DSCN0941]
| Date = 2016-03-09 09:35
| Author = [ Adamina]
| Permission =
| other_versions=


{{User:FlickreviewR/reviewed-pass|Adamina||2016-07-15 20:16:09|cc-by-2.0|}}
[[Category:Unidentified locations]]
[[Category:Files to be sorted by Davey2010 - Please don't remove]]{{Rename |1= |2= 2 |3= Obviously needs a better name however most of these files don't include any location info so listing for rename, Thanks |user=Davey2010 }}

Tagged for deletion by Ronhjones. INeverCry (talk) 01:50, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Oh brilliant thanks INC - I never expected all of that info so thank you so much :),
Ronhjones - Could you kindly explain how 2d tiled artwork falls under a copyright violation ?, I've looked on CPM:FOP and FOP in Portugal (where the image was taken) is allowed?, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:48, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
FoP only applies to 3D - buildings, sculptures, etc. 2D is a flat painting / drawing, and that has copyright which cannot be so easily given away. Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:58, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
Ronhjones- Ahhh right, I never knew drawings like the image could still be under copyright ... learn something new everyday, Okie dokie thanks for kindly explaining it to me, Thanks, Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 00:07, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

User Soshuvo‎

You just deleted an image uploaded by Soshuvo‎ - they've just uploaded another almost certain copyright violation. Ravensfire (talk) 01:16, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done Upload deleted, user blocked for 1 month. lNeverCry 01:28, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. Ravensfire (talk) 01:29, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

About the Review of Some Photos Uploaded by User:Jin-gook

Hi. I found that a lot of photos of Korean people were uploaded to commons recently, and you reviewed some of these photos. But I found that these photo may violates copyright. Take this photo as an example, could you tell me where you can inform from the original link that this photo applies to its license, please? Plus, I can found a copyright notice from the bottom of the original link shows that it is copyrighted. If they are copyrighted, please delete all these photos that may infringe copyright. Thanks. --TechyanTalk) 13:04, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

I reviewed this per User:-revi/Tistory. The file is about half-way down the page. At the bottom right corner of the page is the Creative Commons icon that shows CC-BY-SA-4.0 when you drag your mouse pointer over it. Perhaps @-revi: can help clear this up if needed. I think I'll leave these K-Pop images alone and let someone else review them. INeverCry (talk) 16:55, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
I think your explanation (and the file) is good enough :) — regards, Revi 17:48, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Using a friend's camera

I just saw that files by a user is nominated for deletion because the metadata shows that the photos are taken by others. However, the uploader argues that he owns the copy right and he has just used the cameras of friends for those photos. How can the issue be resolved. Thanks. --Mhhossein talk 05:30, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

  • The topic is also raised at village pump/copy right. --Mhhossein talk 05:32, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
We require COM:EVID, which usually means OTRS permission. Anyone can come up with the story you mention. I've seen more than one serial copyvio uploader lie about the copyright of images any way they could think of. This is why we use COM:PRP in these situations. lNeverCry 05:41, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
And how if those authors mentioned in the metadata send their disclaimer emails to OTRS and verify that they don't hold the rights of the photo and had lend their camera to the claiming author? --Mhhossein talk 05:47, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
That's a question you would be better off asking an experienced OTRS member. They would know how a situation like this is handled, though they may not want to give away their methods publicly. I can only guess like you since I'm not an OTRS member. lNeverCry 05:51, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. --Mhhossein talk 05:55, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Jhonny jhonny sock

UttarPradesh (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · ⧼abusefilter-log⧽block user. Indopug (talk) 16:16, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Blocked by Elcobbola. lNeverCry 20:53, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

reinstated deleted imagə

Despite deleting File:Shams center college maruthamunai School Logo.gif it would appear that User:Shamilsathik has simply reinstated the image File:Shams center college maruthamunai Logo.jpg. Dan arndt (talk) 14:08, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Image deleted, user warned. lNeverCry 20:51, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

File review request

I just created the File:Sushil Kumar (wrestler) in 2014 CWG.png, as per our discussion here. So, please review it. - NitinMlk (talk) 20:27, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done lNeverCry 20:34, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks :) NitinMlk (talk) 20:35, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Undeletion request


I would like to request undeletion of several following images:

Those images has been licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0 as stated in OTRS ticket 2016072410010419. It will be helpful if you could restore the images. Thank you. ··· 👦 Rachmat04 · 💬 17:38, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

@Rachmat04: I've restored them. Please add the OTRS ticket to each image. lNeverCry 20:56, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Problematic user

In spite of your final warning, the user yet again uploaded a copyvio image, claiming it as their own work. The higher/equivalent resolution version of that image has appeared at various sites in the last seven years or so, e.g. 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, etc.

In fact, the higher resolution version of that image is already uploaded here – File:Hannibal traverse le Rhône Henri Motte 1878.jpg. And the image is of the Second Punic War (of Europe), i.e. it's totally unrelated to the history of Khandayat (an Indian Caste). So, the user not only uploaded a copyvio image but also fabricated the history.

On a different note, the original pic might also be a copyvio, as it seems to be copyrighted to the Getty Images. - NitinMlk (talk) 22:27, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

He didn't properly attribute the image, but it's not a copyvio. Motte died in 1922, so the image is PD-ART/PD-old-70. Getty images can't claim copyright of a PD image, though they try to do so all the time. I've deleted the duplicate. If the above user uploads a straight-up copyvio, a block may be needed, but this particular image isn't enough. lNeverCry 22:39, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! Please have a look at this conversation.- NitinMlk (talk) 22:44, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
I've commented there. lNeverCry 23:14, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Bollywood Hungama files

Hello, I noticed that you deleted two files File:Ajaz Khan at Karim Morani's birthday bash.jpg and File:Ajaz Khan at Baba Siddique's Iftaar party.jpg marking them as copyright violations. But may I know how theses images are copyright violations. Mr. Smart ℒION☎️I👨‍👩‍⋡ 05:35, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

For File:Ajaz Khan at Karim Morani's birthday bash.jpg, the source link is a 404 error, so it can't be reviewed. For File:Ajaz Khan at Baba Siddique's Iftaar party.jpg, the source is also a 404 error, so it can't be reviewed either. INeverCry (talk) 16:41, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
I knew it that I will get this reply! Actually the problematic Bollywood Hungama administrators had changed the layout of their website on 21 September 2016, which led to the deletion/automatic removal of some images from their own website uploaded before 21 September 2016. Take this example File:Neha Dhupia at the launch of Costa's 100 store 08.jpg. This file was been reviewed. This means that this image was available on their website before 21 September 2016 and got deleted/autotically removed after 21 September 2016, when BH changed their website. Just search "File:Ajaz Khan at Karim Morani's birthday bash.jpg" on Google. You will find an image with this title containing Bollywood Hungama watermark, which you will get to know that the image WAS available on their website before 21 September 2016. Do the same searching for "File:Ajaz Khan at Baba Siddique's Iftaar party.jpg", PLEASE!!! Mr. Smart ℒION☎️I👨‍👩‍⋡ 17:29, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
You could search the above links at, and see if they were archived, or you could find watermarked versions of the same size as the deleted files above. I'm busy with a project over at right now, and I'd like to get it done this afternoon. INeverCry (talk) 21:31, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
I have seen the images at Way Back Machine but they were not archived at the time when uploaded on Commons. And I've explained you earlier also that I have already searched on watermarked version of the same size as the deleted files above. Just search "Ajaz Khan at Karim Morani's birthday bash bollywood hungama" on Google and you will find a link titled "Shah Rukh Khan, Yo Yo Honey Singh, Sushant Singh Rajput & Kriti Sanon at Karim Morani's birthday bash", which is proofed by this fact that the image was 100% available when I uploaded them on Commons. Now because Bollywood Hungama has changed their website, so the link and images in it have been removed/automatically removed from the website showing "No page found". Another example, just see User talk:NIKE 01. This user's talk page is full of files that have been deleted by you yesterday, which means that the images were available on their website before 21 September 2016. Take another example of User talk:Moheen Reeyad. Many files have been marked as "No permission". Why would he make such a mistake when he is an image reviewer. And it's common sense why would three different people give broken links to files. And my two deleted files are even Bollywood Hungama watermarked which is proofed that I'd uploaded them from only Bollywood Hungama website and from no where else. Please try to understand. Why should we suffer when it's the problem of Bollywood Hungama? See Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bipasha Basu and Karan Singh Grover grace IIFA 2016 at Madrid.jpg, in which I've voted "Delete" to my uploaded file as I know that events outside India are not allowed to upload on Commons and I understand my mistake. But I'm not satisfied with the deletion of my two files because it's not my problem but it's Bollywood Humgama problem. Our hard work shouldn't be destroyed because of Bollywood Hungama. Mr. Smart ℒION☎️I👨‍👩‍⋡ 06:23, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
I'm not associated with Bollywood Hungama, so I don't why they would make you suffer. In any event it's not my fault, and I can't review a guess: I need a source that works. I won't put my name to anything less. You might have more luck with COM:UDEL. I'm one of the busiest admins on any project, so I don't have much time to spare on searching for sources.

As regards user rights, I've seen a Long Term Abuse sockpuppet MyCanon trick Commons into giving them image reviewer, file mover, patroller and rollbacker. I've seen Image Reviewers commit copyfraud on purpose using the Image Reviewer right to do it and hide it. You never know what people will and won't do. INeverCry (talk) 06:44, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

I've found the source link for File:Ajaz Khan at Baba Siddique's Iftaar party.jpg. Here it is. Now atleast undelete this file. Mr. Smart ℒION☎️I👨‍👩‍⋡ 07:40, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

It's good to see you solving the issue for yourself. I've restored and reviewed the image. lNeverCry 07:47, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Now delete this file also File:Drashti Dhami and Anil Kapoor on Jhalak Dikhhla Jaa.jpg. Here its source is.
Good work. I've restored it and passed the review. lNeverCry 20:10, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

File:2016 EXID가 대만에서 두번째 해외 팬미팅을 연다. - 하니(3).jpg

此被移除的相片是在,並且是我自己的作品,請參照相簿第21張相片,並且我已在首頁註明CC BY-SA 4.0,為何還要移除呢?另外我其他上傳分享的照片是否也能在核實一次呢?謝謝--Amber19950120 (talk) 15:43, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

양념파닭: {{copyvio|1=자작이 아니며 원본 링크에 ccl 없음}}. INeverCry (talk) 19:43, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Old Soviet photos


Could you please take a look at User talk:Sealle#Closing DR-requests of locomotive pictures from the 1930s and, e.g., at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Parovoz FD20-2.jpg? I'm afraid that such an approach can jeopardize thousands of files. Thanks, Sealle (talk) 20:59, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Sealle. Something that affects this many files is probably better off being discussed at COM:VP/C. INeverCry (talk) 21:17, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
Well, I'd prefer having your opinion rather than this link... Sealle (talk) 22:04, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
My personal opinion in cases like this is that people should stop hunting for obscure and at best questionable copyright violations, and focus on the tens of thousands of obvious copyright violations we have on Commons, especially in Category:Media needing categories. With the above, the 50 years bit works for me. Proving that you've researched looking for an author is asking too much IMO. We have so many files that have unknown authors (hundreds of thousands, if not a million or more), a ridiculous amount of time would be required to research their authorship to any reasonable level of consistency. My recommendation of VP/C is meant to slow down DRs of this material and also come out with a decision on how to handle them that carries the weight of consensus. Single opinions on copyright issues aren't worth much generally.

Thanks again for handling LouisPhilippe at BTW. I just blocked and reported his latest sock a little earlier. lNeverCry 23:23, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tone-on-tone.jpg

INeverCry, this image was uploaded as a part of the Commons:Photo challenge, and the deletion is complicating the voting process. Sorry I missed it while it was still open, but I can not find in Commons:Deletion policy any valid reason for granting this DR. I guess it would have to be the out of scope argument, but the image is actually quite good and in use as a part of a challenge. Can we undelete it? --Jarekt (talk) 01:30, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

It hurts my eyes to look at the middle of that flower. I don't know what happened, but whoa! The image is terribly blurry and noisy, and there are some strange colors on the leaves. My deletion was based on COM:EDUSE/Commons:Project scope#Examples (the last example: Files that add nothing educationally distinct to the collection of images we already hold covering the same subject, especially if they are of poor or mediocre quality). We have better shots of the flower in Category:Dasiphora fruticosa; the spider is unidentified, but it's also very blurred/noisy. I object to restoring it on these grounds. You'll have to take it to COM:UDEL. We need reasonable-quality images here, and this isn't one IMHO. lNeverCry 03:16, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Sochi 2014 logos

Hi. Perhaps I should have been a little more explicit with these files. Yes I know it is text, and yes, I'm 100% opposed to the deletion of mere text. But the reason for deletion was taken by the WMF legal department. As referred in the deletion comment of File:Sochi logo for the 2014 Winter Olympics.svg, the legal department decided to not host this file. Please contact User:NuclearWarfare or another OTRS member for further details. Tbhotch 22:29, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

@Tbhotch: If there's an OTRS ticket affecting multiple files that need to be deleted, DRs filed by a non-OTRS member aren't the way to go. We have plenty of admins here on Commons who are OTRS members. The ticket (OTRS ticket #2010031110047226) can be posted at COM:AN or COM:OTRS/N if further deletions are required. lNeverCry 22:42, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

File:Мадзій Ірина Богданівна - 16073245.jpg

Hi, INeverCry. You deleted on 3rd of October the first version of the file per request. Which request? I am not sure, that the request was justified, because the version was just kept after DR. Taivo (talk) 07:51, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Per this request. Looking at it again, this overwritten version is small with no EXIF. I think I'll do a revision suppression and restore Mykola's full-resolution version. lNeverCry 20:23, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
@Микола Василечко: I've restored your original because your authorship isn't doubted. The other version was a small professionally taken head-shot/business portrait with no camera metatdata. I think I was mistaken to comply with the request above of Andriy.v. lNeverCry 20:30, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Deleted file: jolene.png

Hi, I used the image file from Dami Im's Jolene (acoustic) cover from this source

The reason I use this file photo is to serve as the primary means of visual identification at the top of the article dedicated to the work in question.

Music infobox. The image is used for identification in the context of critical commentary of the work for which it serves as cover art. It makes a significant contribution to the user's understanding of the article, which is greatly enhanced than by words alone. The image is placed in the infobox adjacent to the article discussing the work, to show the primary visual image associated with the work, and to help the user quickly identify the work and know they have found what they are looking for. Use for this purpose does not compete with the purposes of the original artwork, namely the artist's providing graphic design services to music concerns and in turn marketing music to the public.

Please undelete the image.


Rwphan (talk) 09:13, 7 October 2016 (UTC) Rwphan 7 Oct 2016

(talk page stalker) Rwphan, you’re making a case of fair use for this copyrighted photo. It needs to be uploaded and kept in the relevant project (which is, as you don’t even care to mention it, the English Wikipedia). Wikimedia Commons is a repository of free media, not a hosting space for fair use images used by Wikimedia other Wikimedia projects. -- Tuválkin 11:56, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

User:Tuvalkin my apologies, as I am not too familiar with all the nuances of policies on Wikipaedia and Wikimedia Commons etc. I will find out how to upload and keep the image in the relevant project as you described. The project is Jolene (song). Thanks for the tip. Rwphan (talk) 01:27, 8 October 2016 (UTC)8 October 2016

OK, I am quite confused. It is for a page on Wikipaedia and not for Wikimedia Commons.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rwphan (talk • contribs) 01:29, 08 October 2016 (UTC)
Have a look at Wikipedia:Non-free content. lNeverCry 02:28, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Marymount-Chapel-front.jpg

Hi. Can you please restore this picture? I e-mailed the hermitage after I created a stub on Wikipedia, and their neighbor uploaded this picture. He said he took it himself.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:11, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

I can't restore it. It was published on the web before the upload to Commons, and it's small (500 × 329 (46,016 bytes)) with no metadata. We would require it either be uploaded in full original size, or that the copyright holder email permission to OTRS. lNeverCry 02:25, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Heya magic fingers... all need to be in "Category:Road signs in Malaysia" but I can't seem to get cat-a-lot open batch task them. Any clues? Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:15, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done Using the "Append any text" function in VisualFileChange. I botched it at first by adding [[:Category:Road signs in Malaysia]] instead of [[Category:Road signs in Malaysia]] though, and created a bunch of extra work for myself. But everything's good now.   lNeverCry 07:26, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank you so much !!   Ellin Beltz (talk) 21:37, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

User right

Calmly and respectfully :>) this is me thanking you for your recently adding "autopatrolled" to my user rights!  Paine  u/c 01:51, 12 October 2016 (UTC)


More files uploaded by this user. No reason to think they are own work. Only checked one and it came up on google. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 19:51, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done Uploads nuked, user given final warning. lNeverCry 21:26, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

File:Hari Kishore Joshi.jpg

Hi; I was aware that this file is in use on a userpage, yet I believe that the original rationale for deletion still stands. COM:INUSE states the following:

The uploading of small numbers of images (e.g. of yourself) for use on a personal user page of Commons or another project is allowed as long as that user is or was an active participant on that project.

The file is in use on w:pa:User:Iamharishjoshi, a project the user has only posted his lengthy bio on. On a general note, really great to see you decimate those backlogs again.    FDMS  4    23:40, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I've deleted it. lNeverCry 23:45, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Arnaud Courlet de Vregille's page

Hi ! I saw you deleted the file of "Teilhard de Chardin" on the Arnaud Courlet de Vregille's page. I don't understand why, and why these one. If you want see an autorisation from Arnaud de Vregille to post something with his permission, I have it.

Thank for your reply !

PS : Sorry for my english very bad, I'm french.

--Drapé (talk) 16:34, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Please send that permission via OTRS. lNeverCry 21:22, 11 October 2016 (UTC)


I would think the older upload referencing the original source would be preferred to a an upload from an image-scraping site that routinely omits or garbles source and identifying information. At least the original FWS reference should be preserved. Dankarl (talk) 13:24, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

The older upload was significantly smaller than this one by , (2,100 × 1,415 pixels, file size: 112 KB for Fæ's version and 697 × 470 (38,978 bytes) for the version that I processed and deleted as a dupe. The source for the deleted version was a dead link, but I've found the current link,, and added it to the current version to be thorough. lNeverCry 20:51, 12 October 2016 (UTC)


Hallo INeverCry,
you blocked the user MakeMagazinDE, but I have problems to understand why. As far as I can see the account uploaded two pictures and added to its user-page that it is a company (with its contact-data). --DaB. (talk) 13:41, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

I may have been a bit harsh on the promo angle. I often deal with non-notable spamming/promo accts, so once in a while a more notable company may end up blocked. I've switched this to a soft block so they can create a new account. Otherwise, they could contact OTRS to confirm that this is an official acct. lNeverCry 21:07, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
Hello lNeverCry, ticket:2016101310006706 prove identity. Is it possible to unblock this account ? Have a nice day --Framawiki (talk) 08:00, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
  Done Just make sure they don't revert your OTRS ticket again... lNeverCry 08:05, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Pakistani Passport 1954.jpg

INC, please take a look at the post closing comment here. I think the user is probably correct that the 1947 version should not have been deleted at Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Venudxb. The 1960 version is also out of copyright. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:01, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

@Jameslwoodward: Can you restore those for me? I'm sure you can make quicker work of it than me. I'll owe you one (I've probably got quite a tab going already...). lNeverCry 11:06, 13 October 2016 (UTC)


Please, if You would be so kind and delete old (previous) thumbnails of uploaded pictures in order to keep only the latest version of each. I mean, for instance, a way like this:

Here is why, the previous versions are for sure unsuccessful, besides I would like avoid possible vandalism by reverting them. Here are the images:
File:Zbigniew Jagiełło.JPG
File:Małgorzata Raczyńska-Weinsberg.JPG
File:Kacper Kowalski.JPG
File:Szałamacha Paweł.JPG

Thank You very much.

Artur Andrzej (talk) 18:02, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

None of the above images have a smaller version in their history. lNeverCry 20:10, 13 October 2016 (UTC)


Hi. Can you please block Szm2004? Is an other sock of this sockmaster. Thanks. --サンティ [talk] 02:54, 15 October 2016 (UTC).

  Done Sock blocked, uploads nuked. lNeverCry 03:00, 15 October 2016 (UTC)


Hey @INeverCry, you deleted this file in error -- >; this was a Creative Commons file on Choire's CV, see here: --The lorax (talk) 03:21, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Where does he say that the image is released under the {{Cc-by-4.0}} license? lNeverCry 07:29, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Hiding libelous content

Hi. I just want to say that I fully understand what you did; no need to explain it to me. But also, someone who, at least seemingly, accuses Simone Biles that way probably merits watching for other evidence of racism or other irrationality. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:19, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

I've emailed WMF Legal for advice in this case. If you see anything else from him like this, please let me know. lNeverCry 08:30, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
Sure thing. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:55, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Elsa Peretti profile photo

object: Dear Mr INeverCry, I represent Ms Elsa Peretti regarding her Wikipedia page. Please know that her lawyers have a licence grant from the author of the photo. If necessary, the documents can be sent to whomever it concerns. The photo should not have been deleted. Please restore her profile picture. Thank you for your cooperation. Regards, --NPF-webmaster (talk) 09:38, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

OTRS permission from the copyright holder is needed. The deletion was necessary to make sure both Commons and the copyright holder are protected from copyright issues. If/when the OTRS permission comes through, the file can be restored. lNeverCry 19:16, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

File:Seattle Downtown (4763340382).jpg

i see you deleted this photo of a sculpture here Commons:Deletion requests/File:Seattle Downtown (4763340382).jpg and also File:"Hammering Man" art, Seattle, Washington LCCN2011630311.tif. however, there was no copyright notice per SIRIS [1] and no registration at Borofsky+Jonathan as would be indicated by Template:PD-US-1978-89. perhaps you would care to relist with the new information? Slowking4 § Richard Arthur Norton's revenge 12:40, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

COM:UDEL would be a better idea to address this. People like Carl Lindberg and Jim Woodward can handle this much quicker than I can, since they work on copyright questions much more often. I don't object to restoration of anything I deleted. lNeverCry 19:14, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

José Antonio Labordeta Mayo 2008, Ana Labordeta, Nerea Camcho

Saludos desde España!!! (MIra debajo de su PÁGINA WEB!!!) --Campeones 2008 (talk) 12:49, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

File:AMAIA SALAMANCA 2013.jpg Es el mismo autor!!!

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Campeones 2008 (talk • contribs) 12:13, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
Is this about a particular file or files that was deleted? lNeverCry 19:08, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

File misdeletion: Seal of San Mateo County, California.svg

Hello. You deleted this file in error. It was a free public domain image under Template:PD-CAGov rationale. Please undelete ASAP!Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 06:08, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

@Illegitimate Barrister: Gah! That FUR from got me with a CSD tag. I've restored the file and removed the FUR. Sorry I didn't look closely enough. I should've known. lNeverCry 08:46, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
@Illegitimate Barrister: I've reverted the delinker as well. lNeverCry 08:52, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
No worries, 'twas an honest mistake. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 00:28, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Notice of upload removal

Dear INeverCry:

The Wikimedia Foundation (“Wikimedia”) has taken down content that you posted at File:Celtic tree (18968258040).jpg due to Wikimedia’s receipt of a validly formulated notice that your posted content was infringing an existing copyright. When someone sends us a validly formulated notice of copyright infringement, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (“DMCA”) Section (c)(1)(C) requires Wikimedia to take the content down, and to notify you that we have removed that content. This notice, by itself, does not mean that the party requesting that the content be taken down are suing you. The party requesting the take down might only be interested in removing the content from our site.

Please note that the Office of General Counsel has decided that a "strike" is not appropriate in this instance because of mitigating circumstances (e.g., there is a clear lack of willfulness and a mistaken belief of compliance).

What Can You Do?

You are not obligated to take any action. However, if you feel that your content does not infringe upon any copyrights, you may contest the take down request by submitting a ‘counter notice’ to Wikimedia. Before doing so, you should understand your legal position, and you may wish to consult with an attorney. If you choose to submit a counter notice, the alleged copyright holder can either refuse to contest the counter notice or decide to file a lawsuit against you to restrain Wikimedia from re-posting the content. Please note that Wikimedia will not be a party to any legal action that arises from you sending a counter notice, and that Wikimedia is unable to provide you with legal advice.

Filing a Counter Notice

If you choose to submit a counter notice, you must send a letter asking Wikimedia to restore your content to, or to our service processor at the following address: Wikimedia Foundation, c/o CT Corporation System, 818 West Seventh Street, Los Angeles, California, 90017. The letter must comply with DMCA standards, set out in Section (g)(3)(A-D), and must contain the following:

  • A link to where the content was before we took it down and a description of the material that was removed;
  • A statement, under penalty of perjury, that you have a good faith belief that the content was removed or disabled as a result of mistake or misidentification of the material to be removed or disabled;
  • Your name, address, and phone number;
  • If your address is in the United States, a statement that says “I consent to the jurisdiction of the Federal District Court for the district where my address is located, and I will accept service of process from the person who complained about the content I posted”; alternatively, if your address is outside the United States, a statement that says “I agree to accept service of process in any jurisdiction where the Wikimedia Foundation can be found, and I will accept service of process from the person who complained about the content I posted”; and finally,
  • Your physical or electronic signature.

Pursuant to the DMCA, Wikimedia must inform the alleged copyright holder that you sent us a counter notice, and give the alleged copyright holder a copy of the counter notice. The alleged copyright holder will then have fourteen (14) business days to file a lawsuit against you to restrain Wikimedia from reposting the content. If Wikimedia does not receive proper notification that the alleged copyright holder has initiated such a lawsuit against you, we will repost your content within ten (10) to fourteen (14) business days.


As a matter of policy and under appropriate circumstances, Wikimedia will block the accounts of repeat infringers as provided by Section 512(i)(1)(A) of the DMCA.

If you would like to learn more about Wikimedia’s policies, please refer to the Wikimedia Terms of Use, available at Terms of use, and the Wikimedia Legal Policies, available at m:Legal/Legal_Policies. More information on DMCA compliance may also be found at:

Wikimedia appreciates your support. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any questions regarding this notice.

Sincerely, Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) 23:06, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

@JSutherland (WMF): Did you ask the DMCA filer why the image is still on Flickr (where I transferred it from) with a free license: lNeverCry 23:14, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks and question

Hi, and thanks for deleting those images uploaded by Каволо. He/she uploaded another one yesterday, and I'm wondering if it wants some attention. I'm still trying to learn what we do and don't accept here. The source is given as a Pinterest site, which I visited. That site refers to another,, which returns an error when I try to load it. So the only attribution is the assertion made by the Pinterest user that the image is Jeanne d'Albret. My question: Does it satisfy our criteria that the uploader simply provides the Pinterest url, without stating anything else in the file description? Thanks in advance for any tips. --Eric my en.wp talk page 22:46, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Anything like this that obviously meets PD-ART/PD-old-100 is fine. lNeverCry 23:00, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I agree with this. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Ok, thanks to you both. --Eric my en.wp talk page 02:31, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Morada Bachounda Pic.jpg

Another similar image was mentioned in this DR. Would you mind deleting this too or do we need a separate discussion? De728631 (talk) 22:30, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done lNeverCry 22:33, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

File:Scandinavian Journal of Occupational Therapy.jpg

Hi, this is a redirect to a file that you just deleted as a copyvio that should also be deleted. Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 09:11, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done lNeverCry 09:16, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Looks like your friend

Feel Happy While Tour (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · ⧼abusefilter-log⧽block user but I'm not entirely sure. Edits on en are minimal so I can't find the usual tells there. —SpacemanSpiff 14:10, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

@SpacemanSpiff: I've blocked him. You don't see too many new users requesting name changes and using the crop tool right out the gate. Several of the usual files on my watchlist are in his edits too. lNeverCry 20:33, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
He's Flickr washing again: [2], falsely impersonating a chief minister. Guessing the other flickr accounts that he's uploaded from are like this too. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 00:28, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I blacklisted an acct and nuked this sock's uploads to be safe. I revision cleaned a few files to DENY him a bit. lNeverCry 00:57, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


Hi there. Please see File:RecepTayyipErdoğanOfficialPhoto.jpg. It is probably a copyvio just as his previous upload was.

Convenience link: [3]

Ping: User:Kumkum and User:Storkk

Many thanks for looking into this.


Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:28, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

I've re-deleted it, as it's a re-upload of File:Recep Tayyip Erdogan.jpg out of process. File talk:Recep Tayyip Erdogan.jpg still contains the reason for the deletion. I've warned Gl dili against re-uploading, as that would result in a block. Their hostile behavior over this image doesn't bode well for getting this resolved in a constructive manner, but hopefully none of that is repeated. lNeverCry 21:56, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank you so much! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:04, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Sorry people, i'm lost discussion previous images. Thank! I'll keep it there! Sorry I changed the photo automatically. Reflex. Forgot that one can not. More precisely I will not. Thank you that you are patien Gl dili (talk) 22:26, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for your work...

  The Barnstar of Deletion
Thanks a lot for the time you spend for all the bad spelling, doubles, useless, empty cat's you kick their ass in the bin   !!! --LW² \m/ (Lie 2 me ...) 04:54, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Check it please

Can you please check this file. Besides WM projects, it's also found elsewhere. --Mhhossein talk 05:13, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm familiar with the uploader. He's a trusted patroller here and a former administrator on Wikipedia. If he says the file's his creation, I'd take him at his word. lNeverCry 05:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Questionable photographs of (relatively) famous personalities

Hi there,

Thanks for closing this deletion request.

I wondered what your opinion was on this image by the same uploader/photographer, as it appears to fall into a similar- but not identical- category, both legally and in terms of whether we should be keeping this sort of thing on Commons.

It was obviously taken at a red carpet (i.e. very public) event, but it doesn't look like it was consensually posed, and even if it's legal, is this what we're looking for here?

Ubcule (talk) 18:08, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

If you have the time (*and* the inclination!), I'd also appreciate your opinion on whether the images nominated in this deletion request should remain on Commons or whether they're out-of-scope promotional material.
(There were permissions issues raised in previous requests, but this one is for entirely different reasons.) Ubcule (talk) 18:29, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
@Ubcule: In the first case, you have a problem user who's been blocked previously and now stripped of his user rights for behavioral issues. I've been deleting his blurry car images for half a decade now. The one I deleted above was problematic from a privacy standpoint and unusable for anything educational anyways. The second is in more of a public place and it's the only image we have of a notable person. It sucks, but I think we can wait to try and find a better alt before deleting it. I honestly suspect that this guy uploads horrid quality photos on purpose, why, I don't know.

In the second case, you've got some plain COM:ADVERT. I won't comment at the DR, because I'd prefer to keep my ability to close it (if I can beat Jcb to it)...   lNeverCry 20:46, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I understand why the aforementioned car (and celeb) uploader was banned from en.wikipedia; as for Commons, though, while there are some problems (and I understand your frustration), I still think he's operating within good faith... for what that's worth. I don't believe anyone would put that much effort into being so consistently mediocre for malicious reasons...! :-O
At any rate, the Quebecois celeb images seem to be worse (quality-wise) than the recent car ones. Unfortunately, while the car images seem to have had some of their worst tendencies knocked away over many years, it's quite clear that he's very resistant to improvement (and quality control), so I'm not holding my breath!
Thanks for your feedback on that second one too; that's what I thought. All the best! Ubcule (talk) 22:49, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Some advice (for me)


I was going to nominate these images for deletion. I'm new to DR so I wanted to make sure they were in fact a copyvio. Thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 22:50, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

There's no complex graphics on the packaging, just simple text in a basic Gothic font, so you could add {{PD-text}}, but I don't think a DR is needed. lNeverCry 22:59, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

File:Peregrine falcon in Bükk National Park, Bélapátfalva, 2016 Hungary.jpg


My name is Andras Malatinszky; I'm one of the sysops on huwiki. We have a user who is complaining about your deletion yesterday of the picture at File:Peregrine falcon in Bükk National Park, Bélapátfalva, 2016 Hungary.jpg. I think he tried to make his point to the nominator but his English is not very good, and the nominator just reverted his comment instead of responding.

Anyway, Globetrotter19's point is that the subject of the picture (an open-air sign showing the image of a peregrine falcon) is PD under Hungary's freedom of panorama (FOP) rules. Under Hungarian law objects permanently installed in the open are not subject to copyright, so if Globetrotter19's description of his picture is correct, there would be no copyvio involved.

I haven't seen the image you deleted, but if the user's description is correct, restoring the image may be the right way to go. (By the way, he says he has uploaded "about a hundred" similar pics, so this is not a trivial question.)

Please take a look and let me know (you can respond right here, I'll watch this page) what you find.



--Malatinszky (talk) 16:42, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

I usually deal with Russian and Ukrainian FoP, so Hungary FoP is a bit new for me. Commons:Freedom of panorama#Hungary mentions "fine art, architectural or applied art" as being OK in a public space, but it doesn't directly mention 2D works like this falcon photograph. It looks like our entry could be more clear and comprehensive, since the English translation of the Hungarian FoP laws mentions photographs directly. The term "applied art" isn't something you run into very often in English. I had to look it up to be sure of the definition.   I've restored the above file and fixed the Hungarian description so that it displays correctly. lNeverCry 19:41, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. --Malatinszky (talk) 20:59, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Copyvio files

This user has uploaded some copyvio pics. Here are the details:

a) 1 from here;

b) 2, 3, 4 from here/here;

c) 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 from here/here.

BTW, the other user has improved a bit after your final warning. This time, out of his two uploads, only one is copyvio - File:RN Singh Deo.jpg. This pic is taken either from here or here. - NitinMlk (talk) 23:23, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done Copyvios nuked, first user warned, second user blocked for a week. lNeverCry 23:42, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. - NitinMlk (talk) 23:43, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


Hi, see Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Blocks and protections#Block of User:PetarM Christian Ferrer (talk) 10:37, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

You see it. You need to stop defending problem users who threaten others or you need to resign as an admin if you can't stay neutral, which is becoming pretty clear. I'm very disappointed in your behavior in this case. He just threatened me and clearly said the situation is unresolved, but you ignore that and go after me... lNeverCry 10:45, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Lowering the thermometer

Look, I am unsure what is going on in full. I see bits and pieces. What I do see for sure is you need to calm down along with everyone else. Please do not interpret this as an accusation. I just get a sense that some people want to derail the discussion into an emotional mess that in the end is harmful to commons and really everyone involved.

To this end I would suggest taking a break from admin tools for the time being. If also possible, try not to reply to every remark immediately. I have been there when there were people trying to get under my skin. In my case it helped me to think about my reply and give an hour or two between their reply and mine. This is merely a friendly suggestion I hope you will genuinely consider.

-- とある白い猫 ちぃ? 13:02, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

I have unblocked PetarM but I want you to know that I didn’t do this to punish you but I did it because I don’t want you to be dragged into a situation that can harm you. After a good night’s rest you will probably agree with me that you should have handled the situation in a different way instead of placing a new block and attacking people.
I am not going to ask you to resign or anything like that but I am going to advise you to have some fun and a good time in the real world. I know how addictive Wikimedia projects can be and it does happen often that a Wiki project keeps me up till 3 AM but there is so much more. Like having a pizza or a walk in the park. Or reading a good book.
I always value you as an administrator but what can we do to help you? You don’t have to do it alone. This goes for dealing with tricky and complex cases involving users but also regarding everyday maintains. Natuur12 (talk) 13:27, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

/* New Jhony Jhony sock */ r

INeverCry17 (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · ⧼abusefilter-log⧽block userSpacemanSpiff 23:39, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done lNeverCry 23:45, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

File:Voice of Korea logo.svg

Hello! I would like to ask you to review the deletion of this file. Even if it is considered as a derivative work, according to the Copyright Law of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea we can use it without their permission.
“Article 32 (Use of copyrighted work without permission)
A copyrighted work may be used without the permission of the copyright holder in the following cases:
2. when a copyrighted work is reproduced for the purposes of preserving, displaying, reading or lending in such places as a library, an archives, a museum or a memorial hall;
5. when a copyrighted work is broadcast or carried in newspapers or periodicals for the purpose of its introduction;
7. when a copyrighted work is performed free of charge;”

Oppashi (talk) 23:54, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Why is it hosted under fair use at en:File:Vok-logo.png? We don't allow fair use at Commons (COM:FU). lNeverCry 23:57, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
What do you mean? I did not use fair use. I have created this SVG file especially to replace Vok-logo.png at Enwiki. Oppashi (talk) 00:07, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
My basic question is why was it considered that fair use was appropriate if the file is available under a free license? COM:UDEL may be a better place to bring this up, especially considering the fair use image at Wikipedia. lNeverCry 00:13, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Barnstar of Diplomacy
In recognition of this edit, I, odder, hereby grant you this Barnstar of Diplomacy. You have shown true leadership in your resolution of that situation; it was exemplary and I hope we can all learn from it. Good job! odder (talk) 17:50, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks old friend. That edit you point to is the one I enjoyed making the most out of the last three days, by far. At this rate, I'm going to have to revive User:INeverCry/Barnstars...   lNeverCry 20:28, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Regarding: Commons:Deletion requests/File:EJPIC2.jpg

Can you pleas have another look at Commons:Deletion requests/File:EJPIC2.jpg? The picture was uploaded, and I nominated it for deletion. It was quickly deleted. Now it is added again under the same file name. I added a new request for deletion, but I am worried that it may not be seen, as the new nomination landed on the old "closed" page. Thanks, Jeffrey Beall (talk) 14:26, 21 October 2016 (UTC).

Looks like Hedwig has dealt with this. lNeverCry 03:02, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of Sherrie Palm photo

File:Original Sherrie palm.png [edit] Appears to be previously published Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:45, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

INeverCry - This photo was used before. I did not know that. New to Wiki. I asked Sherrie Palm for a photo and this is the one she sent me. Do I need to ask her for another photo? I would like to use this one if possible. My Wiki article is still in the Sandbox stage. Thank you for your time. - Mbpippen

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbpippen (talk • contribs) 17:54, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
With photos that have been published elsewhere before being uploaded to Commons, we require permission from the copyright holder via the OTRS process. This particular photo is a studio photograph taken by a professional photographer, so that photographer would have to provide permission for a free license under OTRS. The same would be true of pretty much any photo of Sherrie Palm not taken directly by her through a timer or as a hand-held selfie. I would suggest a better quality version of this particular portrait be asked for if this is what you're going with. The above image is barely 1mp (534 × 804 - 284,731 bytes), and is visibly very unsharp. If you've got to go through OTRS, you might as well come up with something a bit higher quality if at all possible.   lNeverCry 19:59, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your really quick reply. I asked Sherrie about the photo - her reply: "It is an image I PAID to have taken, it is my property." ... so before I reply back...thought I would ask, if she paid for the photo and then gave it to me, would I not be the owner? sorry I am new...lots to learn...Mary P Mbpippen (talk) 22:55, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

If the photo is a work for hire, Sherrie Palm would still have to provide permission via email through our OTRS system. It's a pretty easy process, but can take a week or more due to the volume of work they do. lNeverCry 23:11, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Obruche E. Orugbo.jpg

Somehow file was not deleted. Please take a look. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 01:38, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Probably a lock error I didn't notice. I've deleted it. lNeverCry 01:40, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Request undeletion


Could you please undelete File:Culture.vs.Copyright 01.pdf? Image permission just arrived in OTRS system. Thank you! ··· 👦 Rachmat04 · 💬 04:31, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

@Rachmat04: I've restored it. Please add the OTRS ticket. lNeverCry 04:34, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Removing cats in my uploads

Hi INeverCry, I don't understand why you removed the cat Upload with upload Wizard in some of my uploads from Roermond. Dqfn13 (talk) 12:16, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

@Dqfn13: See Commons:Categories for discussion/2016/08/Category:Uploaded with UploadWizard. The category is going to be phased out and then deleted. All files will eventually be removed, mostly by bots. See Commons talk:Categories for discussion/2016/08/Category:Uploaded with UploadWizard for ongoing discussion and updates on progress. lNeverCry 20:19, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @Dqfn13: And please note that the phasing out of UploadWizard's category will not affect your files, so no need to worry. Poké95 00:46, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the answers. I know the files won't be affected @Pokéfan95:, the categories are not part of the files. Dqfn13 (talk) 11:21, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Some files to check

Thanks in advance.--Fixertool (talk) 16:39, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Los pibes de cuarto. lNeverCry 20:26, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

re: File:Ile aux Serpents 01.jpg

  done--Esculapio (talk) 10:29, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

@Esculapio: That's still not the correct source. The image you sourced has almost no sky while this image has a lot of sky in the middle at top. lNeverCry 10:32, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
now should be correct --Esculapio (talk) 10:46, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
@Esculapio: Yep, that's the right one. I've done the license review. lNeverCry 10:49, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Please restore this page



Evrik (talk) 19:16, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done lNeverCry 20:47, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

New Rafa sock

Hi. I don't know if you remember, but last month you said it might be easier if I reported copyvios from Rafa Figueiredo socks to you directly. The latest CU-verified Rafa sock uploaded two likely copyright violations, File:Elisha Cuthbert 2013.jpg and File:Blake Lively 2013.jpg. The sock account is globally locked now, but the copyvios still need to be deleted. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:23, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done lNeverCry 21:26, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:26, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Undeletion request of File:Culture.vs.Copyright 02.jpg

Hello. Could you please undelete the file File:Culture.vs.Copyright 02.jpg. The author has sent email to OTRS. Thank you. ··· 👦 Rachmat04 · 💬 07:22, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

@Rachmat04: I've restored it. Please add the ticket. lNeverCry 07:25, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Escudos borrados

Cual es la diferencia? Porqué algunos escudos como estos son mantenidos: File:LogoDeCerroPorteño.png, File:Sportivo Luqueño.svg y File:Emblem Olimpia.png Y otros escudos que se han subido con las mismas carácterísticas son borradas? Robslpy (talk) 11:12, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

See COM:CB and COM:NETCOPYVIO. lNeverCry 18:53, 26 October 2016 (UTC)


I'm a vandal? Эlcobbola talk 03:05, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Ha ha!   I was monitoring new user pages, and I must've had the original sock-created page in my cache, (I look at 100 pages at a time), and got it confused. I've restored your revision. lNeverCry 03:22, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Because really, if anything is vandalism, it's electric violet comic sans. ;-) Эlcobbola talk 14:29, 27 October 2016 (UTC)


Could you please revisit the closures of?:

The intent was to clarify copyright after no source tagging, not a nomination where deletion was suggested. Thanks -- (talk) 08:02, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done Reversed. I meant to keep these from the get go...really...   lNeverCry 08:47, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Blocked user User talk:Arthom Metro

I see you blocked this user. I have nominated the rest of their uploads for deletion, so maybe you want to just delete them at once based on your previous interaction. Thanks Ww2censor (talk) 13:17, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Looks like someone beat me to it. lNeverCry 18:58, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

File:Parasiliti di Para.jpg

Dear INeverCry, you have deleted the picture Parasiliti di Para.jpg. I am the owner of this picture which I made by myself in 2014. I used it already before on my website I explained this already on the File talk: Parasiliti di Para.jpg, but the picture has nevertheless been deleted. I asked already the undeletion and hope that you can accept it. (Kppcom (talk) 23:03, 27 October 2016 (UTC))

This was deleted because it's displayed at with no free license. In order to host it here on Commons, you would have to display a free license at or email confirmation of the free license to OTRS. lNeverCry 01:04, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer dear INeverCry. I am not so familiar with all the wiki so it's quite difficult to make the right things. I added the example of the html file to the webpage, but I dont know if this is sufficient. I also send an email confirming free license to OTRS but I read that this is not accepted for websites. Can you please help me and tell me if what I have done is sufficient. Kind regards (10:11, 28 October 2016 (UTC))(Kppcom (talk) 10:12, 28 October 2016 (UTC))

I've restored it. lNeverCry 17:44, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help, INeverCry. It's really not easy to do the right things when you are not familiar with all the rules. Kind regards (Kppcom (talk) 14:34, 29 October 2016 (UTC))

file:Sleeve of Making Movies.svg

Hello, I wonder why it has been deleted. It doesn't trespass the threshold of originality being only a blue stripe on a red square... For sure I wouldn't have uploaded it if it were any more original than that. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 08:23, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

@Blackcat: I think this was a case of 'someone else' making a change (adding {{Non-free album cover}}) that flagged the image for speedy deletion... the work itself seems pretty obviously {{PD-ineligible}} to me... the 'curve' is just a thumbhole (a utilitarian design feature of a CD sleeve) and the short phrases are not copyrightable. Reventtalk 12:29, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
I watched file's history being an admin, and noticed it wasn't flagged as such but suddenly deleted. For sure INeverCry had a good reason, but I am curious to know it. Yes I know that the curve is a thumbhole :-) I have the original record, a 33 RPM with red sleeve, and in some countries like Italy that sleeve it was shorter than the record's inner cover; in other countries it is like that, where the blue inner cover is "replicated" on the sleeve to make it appear like it protrudes out of. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 12:38, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Looks like the guy snuck one by me with [4]. I've restored it. lNeverCry 17:47, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
No problem, everyone who works can make a mistake. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 21:24, 28 October 2016 (UTC)


Sorry INeverCry. I made a mistake. Germany has many states, including Saxony, Saxony-Anhalt and Lower Saxony. So Category:19th century photochrome prints of Saxony and Category:19th century photochrome prints of Saxony-Anhalt are not duplicates and they are necessary. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 14:17, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Could you switch off steinslitterbot, please. Regards --Chris.urs-o (talk) 15:14, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
There's no commands left at the delinker, so you shouldn't have any more issues with the bot. lNeverCry 18:03, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

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Please help to rename these files

Please help to rename these file

Sorry for missing two files to rename:
File:Executive Yuan,ROC LOGO.svg to File:ROC Executive Yuan Logo.svg
File:NCC.gif to File:ROC National Communications Commission Seal.gif

Thanks a lot.--Akira123 (talk) 13:28, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

  Done lNeverCry 23:20, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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