User talk:Jarekt/2020

Zdjęcia z Biblioteki Sejmowej

Ponownie jest próba usunięcia paru wrzuconych zdjęć z biblioteki sejmowej, jakie rzeczy wskazać, bo przyznam, że wymagania są dla mnie niejasne w tej kwestii. User_talk:Aight_2009#Ostrzeżenie_o_możliwości_usunięcia_pliku, kiedyś napisano mi w dyskusji by do ciebie się zwrócić. Aight 2009 (talk) 21:13, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Pewnie chodzi o tą grupę która używa {{PD-Polish}}. Zazwyczaj {{PD-Polish}} wymaga dowodu opublikowania w Polsce przed 1994 rokiem, wiec jeśli znajdziesz jakąś stara publikacje z tymi zdjęciami posłów byłych kadencji, to możemy je zostawić, ale bez dowodu publikacji czy masowej dystrybucji nie możemy użyć {{PD-Polish}}. Boston9 jest bardziej doświadczony z podobnymi zdjęciami. Czy możesz na to popatrzeć? --Jarekt (talk) 04:43, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Nie “paru”, tylko kilkuset. To są fotografie dostarczone przez polityków do ich legitymacji poselskich. Biblioteka Sejmowa, a konkretnie Kancelaria Sejmu, której Biblioteka jest częścią, nie ma do nich majątkowych praw autorskich i nawet nie wiadomo, kim są ich autorzy (to najczęściej fotografowie z miejscowości, skąd pochodzili posłowie). Przyklejenie zdjęcia do druku legitymacji nie może zostać uznane za publikację. Jedyna szansa na uratowanie tych tych zdjęć to: 1) zostały opublikowane przed 1994 w postaci książki 2) bez zastrzeżenia praw autorskich. Kancelaria Sejmu od pewnego czasu zaczęła wydawać (i dalej to robi) informatory o posłach każdej kadencji jak ten. Wszystkie są do sprawdzenia w katalogu on-line i do wypożyczenia/zapoznania się w Bibliotece Sejmowej (Budynek K, tzw. Stary Dom Poselski, róg ulic. Wiejskiej i Górnośląskiej, I piętro, po pobraniu jednorazowej przepustki w Biurze Przepustek). Musisz sprawdzić, czy te zdjęcia tam są, i czy informatory nie mają na początku lub końcu noty copyrightowej. Jeżeli oba warunki są spełnione, wpisz jako źródło pod każdym zdjęciem konkretny informator, z numerem strony, na której jest zdjęcie. Wtedy możesz użyć licencji PD-Polish. Potem wpisz się w Deletion request z opisem działań, które wykonałeś. Boston9 (talk) 08:30, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-02

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Changes later this week

• When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title. [1]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 January. It will be on all wikis from 9 January (calendar).

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21:21, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Mail

I've sent you an email with the photo challenge code/projects/solution. If you don't get it then please use the "Email this user" link so I get a working email address. Thanks. -- Colin (talk) 19:37, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

File:Carmen phelps 5183133.jpg & File:Cheryl Willis Hudson 5182784.jpg

Dear Jarekt,

These PD-Mark licensed image on the flickr source are not not acceptable on Commons since it can be revoked by the copyright owner at any time. On this flickr license table, Commons accepts Attribution, Attribution ShareAlike and Public Domain Dedication (CC0) licensed images. Perhaps you can flickrmail the copyright owner, Slowking, who has been banned for having multiple accounts on Commons. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 04:42, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

This 2016 DR mentions the problems with PD-Mark. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 04:49, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

The author intended the images to be released under public domain {{PD-Author}} as it is indicated on the flickr page. It is odd that ImportWizad which I used for the direct transfer added CC license instead. --Jarekt (talk) 04:54, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

•  Comment: I cannot pass these images as this flickr license is not accepted at Commons...from individual person's accounts. Few people on Commons know about the CC0 option. Here is another image: File:Chris Wilson 5182972.jpg One day another Admin like Jim Woodward, etc might delete them. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Category:Summer (Arcimboldo, 1573)

In case you feel like a puzzle. It's at least 3 or 4 different paintings, probably even more. Multichill (talk) 14:46, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-03

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Recent changes

• You can no longer read Wikimedia wikis if your browser use very old TLS. This is because it is a security problem for everyone. It can lead to downgrade attacks. Since 9 December you just see a warning. Soon the browser will not connect to the wikis at all. Most are users on Android systems older than 4.4. You can read the browser recommendations. [2]
• Special:LinkSearch has been moved from the "Redirecting special pages" section on Special:SpecialPages to the "Lists of pages" section. [3]

Changes later this week

• Wikis can protect pages so that only some users can edit them. The standard protection levels are Allow only autoconfirmed users and Allow only administrators. If your wiki use more protection levels the technical name might be renamed for standardisation. This doesn't affect what users see. [4]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 January. It will be on all wikis from 16 January (calendar).

Future changes

• Deepcat and Catgraph will stop working. This will happen at the end of January. This is because you can now use the normal search function instead. [5]
• You can use <ref follow="…"> to merge footnotes that follow each other. It is meant to be used for digitised books on Wikisource. If the order of the footnotes is wrong no error was shown but the bad <ref> was shown outside the <references /> list. This will change and you will see an error message instead. [6]

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:39, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-04

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Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 January. It will be on all wikis from 23 January (calendar).

Future changes

• There is a new suggestion for what to show when someone edits without registering an account. This is to give unregistered editors better privacy and make some anti-vandalism work go faster. You can give feedback.
• Pywikibot is a Python library to automate work on wikis. It will no longer support Python 2. Use the python2 tag if you need to continue running Python 2 scripts. The Pywikibot team strongly recommends to migrate to Python 3. You can get help to do so. [7]
• The weekly MediaWiki branch cut will soon become automated. The timing for this cut may change. You can discuss in Phabricator if this affects you. [8]
• You can read about coming technical events and mentoring interns.

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19:41, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Template:Nationality

Hello, I found a /ja template needed update, and translated it. Would you mind to teach me why there are still all cap words in red when I open the template page in /ja? Please excuse pitching this question at you, as I found your name at the top of the page history. Cheers, --Omotecho (talk) 17:23, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Omotecho, I fixed the problems, but please check my translation of "hindi". --Jarekt (talk) 20:45, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Perfect, a lesson learnt, and thank you to fitting in Hindi. Cheers, --Omotecho (talk) 21:18, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Category:Pages_using_"Information/author_processing"_template

Category:Pages_using_"Information/author_processing"_template has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

Estopedist1 (talk) 08:30, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-05

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Problems

• Some mobile diffs have problems. A couple of buttons are not shown. Structured data diffs on Commons are confusing. The developers are working on fixing it. [9][10]
• Administrators on wikis that use Structured Discussions can't move discussion pages. This is a bug. The developers are working on fixing it. [11]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• There is JavaScript code on Special:Undelete for administrators that makes it possible to automatically select multiple checkboxes by holding the "Shift" key and clicking. This code is also loaded by accident on other special pages and on articles. This makes pages slower to load. This will be fixed. If you know of other special pages where this is useful please tell the developers at phab:T232688.

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18:53, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Norbert Haberlick.jpg.jpg encore et toujours bloqué

Bonjour,

Que dire ... Je pense que 2020 sonnera mon abandon à la contribution de ma page Wikipédia malgré l'envie du public qui me suit. Wikipédia est pour eux un moyen facile d'en connaitre un peu plus sur mon travail et je m'y suis attelé le faire, non sans mal.

Les photos que je veux mettre sur ma page depuis 2014 sont les miennes. Je suis acteur et ces photos, je les ai payés et elles sont libres de droit. Merci de bien vouloir vous renseigner avant de bloquer des photos par un robot. Si vous aviez fait une recherche rapide sur mon nom, vous vous seriez rendu compte et même simplement en allant sur mon site, vous seriez rendu compte qu'elles se retrouvent sur bon nombres de sites parlant de cinéma, de télévision, de doublage, de radio… bref ! Toutes les différentes façon d’exercer mon métier.

Ne pensez-vous pas que sur le nombre de site ou elles se trouvent, si par malheur elles n'avaient pas été libres de droit, pensez-vous qu'elles seraient resté sur les sites ? Le droit à l’image fait partie de notre quotidien.

Et je ne suis malheureusement pas le seul artiste dans ce cas, plusieurs amis (ies), comédiens, chanteurs, danseurs… abandonnent leur page Wikipédia faute de simplicité, les robots ne font pas tout...

Très belle année à vous. Bien cordialement, Norbert Haberlick — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norbert Haberlick (talk • contribs) 21:32, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

@Yann: or @Jean-Frédéric: , can one of you help me with this discussion, as google translate is not making things more clear. I believe my only interaction with Norbert was deletion of File:Norbert HABERLICK.jpg for lack of license or any metadata 4 years ago. I also asked for someone to help him at Commons:Bistro/archives/2016/02#New_user_needs_help_in_French_-_Norbert_Haberlick. --Jarekt (talk) 02:30, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Free translation of the French, although I am only 80% fluid in French, but I believe to understand everything, so I hope this gets you further:

" Norbert Haberlick.jpg.jpg still and always blocked

Hello,

What to say ... I think that 2020 will stop my contribution to my Wikipedia page despite the demand of the public following me. Wikipedia is an easy way for them to get to know a little more about my work and I sat down to upload information to it, not without difficulty.

The photos I want to put on my page since 2014 are mine. I am an actor and these photos, I paid for them and they are free of rights. Please inform yourself before blocking photos with a robot. If you had done a quick search on my name, you would have realized and even just by going on my site, you would have realized that they are found on a good number of sites speaking about cinema, television, dubbing, radio… in short! All the different ways of doing my job.

Do you not think that on the number of sites where they are, if by chance they had not been free of rights, do you think that they would have remained on the sites? Image rights are part of our daily lives.

And I'm unfortunately not the only artist in this case, several friends, actors, singers, dancers ... abandon their Wikipedia page for lack of simplicity, robots are not everything ...

Very happy new year to you. Best regards, Norbert Haberlick" Bonu (talk) 23:10, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

{{Location}}

Any idea why {{Object location|wikidata=Q19840374|3=scale:1000}} now provides an error, e.g. at Globe 1, Liverpool Naval Memorial.jpg? This appears to be a recent change and affects many pages. Thanks. Rodhullandemu (talk) 10:26, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Fixed Apparently latest code did not support {{Object location}} with only "wikidata" field in File namespace. --Jarekt (talk) 14:25, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!! Rodhullandemu (talk) 16:12, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Heading?

I noticed you created Category:Pages with local coordinates and missing SDC coordinates. Good start! I've been unable to use the new heading (P7787) property. For example I would use it on File:Obergasse nach Norden (Lang-Göns) 05.JPG. Currently I'm skipping these. Have you managed to get it working? If so, how? Than I can update my robot to also include the files with heading (currently skipped). Multichill (talk) 10:39, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Multichill, I am quite frustrated with the SDC GUI, as things that work just fine on Wikidata are so awkward on Commons. I just tried to add by hand geolocation to one of my photographs, and it is a pain. Finally, I did managed to add coordinates and heading to File:Seneca_Rocks_climbing_-_13.jpg, and the only thing I still did not figured out is how to add units to the heading. It might be easier to do by bot, and I will try to see if it works with QuickStatements. Anyway heading should be just a qualifier of the coordinates of the point of view (P1259). --Jarekt (talk) 03:09, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Figured out the problem and Adam solved it. Should be deployed soon. Multichill (talk) 19:57, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rooibos_Teabag_Dress,_Mascha_Mioni.jpg

Hi Jarekt

I cannot understand, that - after 6 years of me uploading this jpg there is a problem with it? I do not remember how we confirmed the rights at the time, but we did and Wiki writes in the text to it: "Wikimedia Foundation has received an e-mail confirming that the copyright holder has approved publication under the terms mentioned on this page. This correspondence has been reviewed by an OTRS member and stored in our permission archive. The correspondence is available to trusted volunteers as ticket #2013061110006965." (Bold by bonu)

Mascha Mioni uses the foto on her own homepage, in one of her books on Art to Wear and it has even been used by others. The photographer Asy Asendorf has sold us all the rights to use it and we do have higher resolution .tif, which we did not upload.

(For the other .jpg - Dumeni Columberg - Dumeni assured me, that he has all the rights and I asked him to bring better verification, but maybe we just take it down again.)

Thanks for your efforts and all the best Bonu (talk) 01:11, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Bonu, As far as I can tell there are no issues with File:Rooibos_Teabag_Dress,_Mascha_Mioni.jpg. --Jarekt (talk) 04:32, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Thx for confirming correctness of status of File:Rooibos_Teabag_Dress,_Mascha_Mioni.jpg. Bonu (talk) 08:09, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-06

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 February. It will be on all wikis from 6 February (calendar).

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20:04, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-07

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Recent changes

• There is a new version of the Wikimedia Commons app for Android. It should fix the failed uploads problem. [12]

Problems

• There was a problem with the new MediaWiki version last week. It deleted some messages by accident. The new version was late because it was stopped to fix things. [13]

Changes later this week

• The MediaWiki action API is used by various tools like bots and gadgets. Some error codes will change. Some parameter values that do not follow the standard will no longer work. [14]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 February. It will be on all wikis from 13 February (calendar).

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19:11, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

File:Martin Graf.jpg

Hi Jarekt, in case you did evaluate the ticket for this image, could you check, who is really the photographer or the name to which the image shall be credited? In the log-record from 2008 on the image-page, there are 4 different "authors" mentioned. --Túrelio (talk) 08:52, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Túrelio, The correspondence (in German) is with a person using their real name, which they did not choose to use on the image page. I can only assume that corresponding author is the same person as the uploader:user:Pappenheim. Another irregularity is that the license of the release was Template:Copyrighted free use (Q7440518) not Template:PD-self (Q6846209). --Jarekt (talk) 13:27, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Ah, o.k. Yeah, that may be because the depicted belongs to a somewhat controversial political party and any seemingly association with it might be dangerous in today's societal atmosphere. Thanks for looking. --Túrelio (talk) 14:10, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

That might be, but equally likely is that most people use usernames, unrelated to their names, and do not publish their real names, while all OTRS correspondence uses real names, which are kept in confidence. --Jarekt (talk) 14:31, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Monuments trackers

Hi Jarekt, as you might have noticed, I'm importing structured data for Wiki Loves Monuments uploads. I'm contemplating if we should add some tracker categories. With or without depicts/copyright status/license/creator/source/inception, things like that. That way we can track progress. The central template to add it to would be {{Wiki Loves Monuments country logos}}. What do you think? Are you coming to the hackathon this year? Multichill (talk) 20:07, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Multichill, If you give me a list of properties and category names I can write Lua module to add such categories. Than we can add the new template to {{Wiki Loves Monuments country logos}} or other templates. --Jarekt (talk) 03:22, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks for the offer. I think I'm first going to reduce this a bit more before we enable some tracking. Multichill (talk) 19:04, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Keeping some statistics on User:Multichill/Structured data progress now. Multichill (talk) 17:58, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

File:Emma Gonzalez imagery at Minnesota March for Our Lives.jpg

File:Emma Gonzalez imagery at Minnesota March for Our Lives.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

A1Cafel (talk) 16:43, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-08

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Recent changes

• Pages on Wikidata and Commons now load faster. You can read more about page load performance. [15][16]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 February. It will be on all wikis from 20 February (calendar).

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16:17, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Category:Pages_with_local_coordinates_and_missing_SDC_coordinates

Category:Pages_with_local_coordinates_and_missing_SDC_coordinates has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

Fæ (talk) 11:02, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Bot changes

Can I ask you to do some changes with your bot? Change is exactly like this. I use Commonist for files upload, but it can't find how to insert object location instead a camera location, so I have to do it manually for each uploaded file. There is about 40 files to change, is it a problem to you to do it with your bot?-- Ma▀▄Ga 16:53, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

I can do it with AWB, but I don't know is it allowed to me to do it with regular user account.-- Ma▀▄Ga 18:07, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

MaGa I added you name to the list of approved users at Commons:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage. Please read the rules of using AWB, there and happy editing. I find AWB a great time saver. many of the tasks AWB can do, you can also do with VisualFileChange but I find AWB easier and saferer to work with. --Jarekt (talk) 03:14, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm pleasantly surprised. Thank you for your trust.-- Ma▀▄Ga 18:39, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Correcting my error

Correcting my error, thanks. See Correcting my error File:Edward Gifford - Edmond Augustus Mackechnie - U-4 - Auckland Art Gallery; I got into a mix up trying to sort out the artist, whose category entry has problems, perhaps you know how to fix it?

The artist is category:Edward Augustus Gifford (Q21455848), he is also in Wikidata as (Q27923971) as Edward Gifford, the latter is obviously not required. Can you merge / delete it?. Coincidentally his father was apparently an architect, but I don't have dates for him. I was thinking of making the father Q27923971 but its probably best just to delete as his name is not distinctive, and there are no dates to differentiate. Broichmore (talk) 08:45, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

I merged the two. --Jarekt (talk) 14:07, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Coordinates and SDOC

Hi Jarek, the new MediaWiki version got deployed so I was able to add heading! I'm quite happy to see that we now have Category:Pages with local coordinates and matching SDC coordinates and that I seemed to have added quite a few files already. As you can see in the previous edit, we also have object location (coordinate location (P625)). Maybe make the same system for that one? Multichill (talk) 18:39, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Multichill, We do have 2 templates: {{Location}} accesses P1259 from SDS and reports results using one set of categories and {{Object location}} accesses P625 from wikidata and reports to other set of categories. I guess we could allow {{Object location}} to access P625 from SDC when in file namespace and we could add words "camera" and "object" to category names. As for heading it still does not work for me, as I still can not add units using the GUI. --Jarekt (talk) 03:25, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

So {{Location}} uses coordinates of the point of view (P1259) and adds things like Category:Pages with local coordinates and missing SDC coordinates and Category:Pages with local coordinates and matching SDC coordinates. What's the other set of categories for {{Object location}}? Haven't spotted them. Or is that just the regular (not SDC) categories? Adding camera and object probably is a good way to make it clearer.

Heading got implemented on the infrastructure side, but not in the user interface yet. Seems to be nearly done.

Bonus points if you can also add tracker categories for the heading. That only makes sense on {{Location}}/coordinates of the point of view (P1259). Multichill (talk) 10:32, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

The {{Object location}} categories are Category:Pages with local coordinates and matching Wikidata coordinates (in most cases if page has {{Wikidata Infobox}} than {{Object location}} is longer needed), Category:Pages with local coordinates and mismatching Wikidata coordinates (with pages like Category:Battle of Kandel memorial where wikidata and commons location of the monument is 1.5 km apart) and similar which we had for many years now. Yes heading categories would be nice too. I guess matching/mismatching/missing again. --Jarekt (talk) 15:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

You're talking about Wikidata, but I'm talking about SDOC, see this example. Multichill (talk) 16:25, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Multichill Yes so I was thinking about following changes:

• change Category:Pages with local coordinates and matching Wikidata coordinates -> Category:Pages with local object coordinates and matching Wikidata coordinates
• change Category:Pages with local coordinates and matching SDC coordinates -> Category:Files with local camera coordinates and matching SDC coordinates
• create Category:Files with local object coordinates and matching SDC coordinates
• create Category:Files with local camera heading and matching SDC heading

I am working on new version of Module:Information where that template can take over adding camera and object locations from SDC, in addition to fetching author/source/date info in case they are missing. --Jarekt (talk) 16:52, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Looks good to me! Multichill (talk) 16:57, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

I guess now is a good time to switch these names instead of try to explain the current slightly confusing name. Multichill (talk) 16:23, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Other trackers

Related [17] (Commons quality assessment (P6731)) looks like a good candidate for tracker category too. You would have to update {{QualityImage}}, {{Assessments}} & {{Valued image}} I think. Multichill (talk) 19:50, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

I should just write some generic module where you pass P-number and names of positive and negative categories. --Jarekt (talk) 20:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Multichill  Done with the module and template. See Module:SDC tracking , Template:SDC tracking and this file. Is this what you had in mind? We should pick some standard name convention for such categories. What do you think? --Jarekt (talk) 20:44, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

That's quick, but that just checks if a property is set or not, right? In the cases it should be possible to set an (optional) Q target (Wikimedia Commons quality image (Q63348069) in this case). The module should check if the P is set and if one of the statements contains the Q. Multichill (talk) 22:06, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

OK, I can add another function, so one is checking if the statement exist ( with positive/negative categories), and another to see if it exist and if it is set to some value (with matching/mismatching/missing categories). That would not be too hard in case of item data types, but would get complicated with other data types, and possibly beyond generic template. --Jarekt (talk) 02:50, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Multichill  Done with the new function, see {{SDC statement has value}}, {{SDC statement exist}} and File:Seneca Rocks climbing - 13.jpg. If those 2 templates are OK than we can start adding them to other templates. --Jarekt (talk) 16:46, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

I see a stray "00" on the example page. Each template seems to add one "0" to the page.

I would probably don't offer numbered variables at all in these templates to be more flexible in the future. Multichill (talk) 18:29, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Multichill, I dropped numbered variables, you are right it is more clear without them. I also managed to fix the zero issue. Thanks for noticing. --Jarekt (talk) 04:49, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Using the templates multiple times seems to break it. Can you have a look? Multichill (talk) 20:44, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Icons-mini-icon link.gif

Hi! You protected File:Icons-mini-icon link.gif back in 2010 as being used in the creator and institution templates. This changed quite a while ago (I don’t even remember seeing it in these templates); could you please unprotect it? (I don’t have specific plans about it, just for the sake of antiprotectionism. SDC bots will appreciate it for sure, but it’s also useful for humans adding translated descriptions, restructuring categories etc.) Thanks in advance, —Tacsipacsi (talk) 15:52, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for spotting it. --Jarekt (talk) 20:40, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

File:A B Alexandrov.jpg

Hi Jarekt. Please could you kindly look at the discussion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:A B Alexandrov.jpg, and let us know whether the deletion tag on the above file can be removed? I have updated and corrected the file information as required. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 22:17, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your kind help. Storye book (talk) 09:40, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-09

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Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 February. It will be on all wikis from 27 February (calendar).

Future changes

• There will be a reply button after each post on a talk page if you want one. This will soon be a beta feature on the Arabic, French, Dutch and Hungarian Wikipedias. You will have to turn it on if you want to use it. It will come to more wikis later. You can test the reply button. It was briefly shown earlier than planned by mistake on the four first wikis last week.

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21:00, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-10

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Problems

• Readers who were not logged in briefly saw the interface in a language decided by their browser. It should normally be in the language of the wiki. This happened for a short period of time last week. This was because of a bug. [18]

Changes later this week

• If you forget your password you can ask for a new one to be sent to your email address. You need to know your email address or your username. You will now be able to choose that you need to enter both your email address and your username. This will be a preference. This is to get fewer password reset emails someone else asked for. [19]
• When you asked for a new password you could see if the username didn't exist on Special:PasswordReset. Now the page will show the username you entered and tell you an email has been sent if the username exists. This is for better security. [20]
• On Special:WhatLinksHere you can see what other pages link to a page. You can see if the link is from a redirect. You can now see which section the redirect links to. [21]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 March. It will be on all wikis from 5 March (calendar).

Future changes

• The developers are working on a new interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. You can give feedback. [22]
• There is a vote on the creation of a new user group called abuse filter manager. The vote runs from March 1 to March 31 on Meta.
• wgMFSpecialCaseMainPage was used for the mobile site. It was deprecated in 2017. It will stop working in April. Wikis should see if they use it. If they do they should fix it. You can read more and ask for help. This affects 183 wikis. There is a list. [23]

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00:36, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Commons:Photo challenge/2020 - January - Fruit/Voting/Result

Hello Jarek

In the Commons:Photo challenge/2020 - January - Fruit/Voting/Result the photo 28. Alkekengi in my garden from Albarubescens should have a score of 13 because the 2 starts voted by DEspel have not been taken into account: 2/3*—— DEspel (talk) 21:11, 6 February 2020 (UTC) since the voting was inserted *2/3* instead of *★★★

You are right. User:DEspel did not cast his vote correctly and it was not counted in the final tally done by Commons:Photo challenge/code/voting.cs. That is following the rules of the content ("votes not complying with the requirements will be removed"), but if I have spotted it earlier I would have corrected it. --Jarekt (talk) 12:43, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

ːUser DEspel did not cast their votes correctly also for other users, but those were corrected, while mine was still wrong. So i would like to ask if is possible to correct now with the apologies of the mistake. Thank you-- Albarubescens 15:00, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-11

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Recent changes

• There is a new search word called articletopic. You can use it to search for articles on a specific topic. It is available on the Arabic, Czech, English and Vietnamese Wikipedias. It will come to more Wikipedias soon. [24][25][26]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 March. It will be on all wikis from 12 March (calendar).

Future changes

• There is a plan for new requirements for user signatures. You can give feedback.
• The Wikipedia Android app will do push notifications if users want them. This could help you see for example when someone wrote on your talk page or your edit was reverted. This will come later this year. [27]

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17:15, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Category:Interwiki_from_wikidata

Category:Interwiki_from_wikidata has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Flickr Public Domain Mark and pd-author

Hi Jarekt, I saw you used the {{PD-Author}} license tag here for an image that was on Flickr listed as Public Domain Mark. I couldn't find any statement on the Flickr uploader's profile that covers the "grants anyone the right to use this work for any purpose, without any conditions, unless such conditions are required by law" part of the PD-Author template, so I was under the impression that PD-Author couldn't be used in this case (see also COM:PDM). Did I miss such a statement, or is it not required? Alex Cohn (talk) 20:18, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

I verified that the Attorney General of Colorado stated that this photograph is in the public domain, which is only possible if the photo was placed into PD by the author. I did not find any indicators that would let me believe that he is breaking the law by, giving away someone else copyrighted property. --Jarekt (talk) 00:06, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. Have you seen the discussion at COM:PDM? I didn't see anything on that user's Flickr profile that covered the required backup "grant anyone the right to use this work for any purpose, without any conditions, unless such conditions are required by law" clause, hence the question. --Alex Cohn (talk) 19:43, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

The page with the photo clearly says "Public Domain" and the publisher guy is the Attorney General of Colorado. I assume he understand legal aspects of it. --Jarekt (talk) 01:48, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-12

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Recent changes

• There is a new API module for changing the content model of existing pages. Use action=changecontentmodel to specify the new model. You can read the documentation on mediawiki.org. [28]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 March. It will be on all wikis from 19 March (calendar).

Future changes

• If you edit a page at the same time as someone else you can get an edit conflict. There is a new two-column interface to make it easier to solve this. It will soon be active by default on the German, Arabic, and Farsi Wikipedias. It will be on by default on more wikis within the next months. You will be able to opt out of the new interface. [29][30]
• You can see a proposed design for replying to comments in an easier way.

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21:16, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Template:Geograph from structured data

Hi Jarek, did you manage to take some nice photos for the challenge? I was thinking about {{Geograph from structured data}}. Currently it uses {{Information/sandbox}} which uses Module:Information/sandbox. Maybe fork it for Geograph for now so we have bit more room to experiment without disturbing {{Information}}? We could add the depicted and location just like on {{Information2}}. I also wonder if it wouldn't be better to break the module in a couple of functions. On the uploads like File:Strath Brora Road in Winter, Sutherland - geograph.org.uk - 6000002.jpg it now says "<author>" in the attribution field. That should just be the same contents as the author field in the information template. Any idea how to best do that? Multichill (talk) 11:21, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Multichill, I did not entered the Photo Challenge for a while, but since I seem to be the only person running the challenge, every month I take a day or two to create pages for the new challenge, create voting pages of last month challenge and score last month votes. As for Module:Information, I rewrote Module:Information/sandbox a bit exposing SDC property functions, see Module talk:Information/sandbox/testcases, I would like to expand testcases to test all the models I handle, but afterwards I will be able to deploy it. If you know of good test cases please add them to Module:Information/sandbox/testcases --Jarekt (talk) 22:44, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Nice, I modified {{Geograph from structured data}} a bit more based on this. Still very rough, but starting to look more how I would like it to look. Any idea how to get the identifier to fill the Geograph template? {{Object location}} is also still throwing a warning, see for example on File:Strath Brora Road in Winter, Sutherland - geograph.org.uk - 6000002.jpg. Multichill (talk) 23:18, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

I found a way to fetch the identifier and did a few minor fixes. I need to fix geo templates. Also We might need to fill ticket for someone to look into not adding Category:Files with no machine-readable author‎, and similar categories for source and description. --Jarekt (talk) 04:17, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Jarek, was meaning to ask you about that. I'm pretty sure Category:Media lacking author information, Category:Media lacking a description and Category:Images without source get added by Module:Information/sandbox, but I haven't looked into that yet. Multichill (talk) 18:38, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Ok hacked up a fix. Can probably be done in a cleaner way. Multichill (talk) 19:07, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

I poked a bit in object location to see if I could get it to work too. Not yet. Maybe you can have a look? I'm not very good at LUA. Multichill (talk) 20:20, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for setting me straight about Category:Media lacking author information which Module:Information adds vs. Category:Files with no machine-readable author‎ which is added by MediaWiki. Do we still need both of them? I will look into object location, I should be able to fix the immediate issue rather quickly, and maybe than I can work on other fixes. --Jarekt (talk) 01:43, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

I think Category:Files with no machine-readable author (and related categories) serve a different purpose. It's still a good indication something weird is going on with metadata. I would just keep it around at least for now.

Any luck with the coordinates? I still see an error on files like File:Castle of Mey and Gardens - geograph.org.uk - 6000001.jpg. Multichill (talk) 14:25, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Multichill, I am getting there. Module:Coordinates/sandbox is mostly working, there are still some oddities I am tracking down, but I should deploy soon. --Jarekt (talk) 13:59, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Oh nice, it's really coming together. I was messing with {{Geograph from structured data}} a bit because I want to generate the attribution part. On File:Castle of Mey and Gardens - geograph.org.uk - 6000001.jpg you can see it half done. What I want to do is that if copyright license (P275) is set with the qualifiers title (P1476) and author name string (P2093), I want to generate the attribution string somethink like "<title> by <author> / CC BY-SA 2.0" so in this case "Castle of Mey and Gardens by Andrew Tryon / CC BY-SA 2.0". I have no clue how to check both qualifiers are set and having problems extracting the title (probably because it has a language). Any idea how to fix this? Multichill (talk) 20:49, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the help and the ping. Any idea how to make the depicts (P180) fields link to Wikidata? Multichill (talk) 19:35, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-13

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Problems

• Some development will be slower than planned. This is because of the current pandemic. You can see the new deployment guidelines. This is to avoid risks when some persons could be unavailable.
• There was a problem when adding interwiki links. The tool you use to add interwiki links could suggest the wrong project to link to. This has now been fixed. [31][32]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 March. It will be on all wikis from 26 March (calendar).

Future changes

• There is a project to make editing easier for newcomers. The developers are trying to understand what initiatives different Wikipedias have to welcome newcomers. They also want to know which templates are often used for maintenance activities. You can help this project by checking if your wiki's pages are listed on Wikidata.

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17:07, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion

When someone needlessly splits a discussion on the Village pump into two sections, just do this. - Jmabel ! talk 16:40, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-14

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Recent changes

• The beta version of the Wikipedia app for Android can now help users add tags on Commons. These tags are called depicts. [33]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 April. It will be on all wikis from 2 April (calendar).

Future changes

• The video player will change to be simpler and more modern. The current beta feature will become the video player for everyone. The old player will be removed. [34]
• There is a project to make templates easier to use. The next few weeks the developers will present ideas on the project page. You can watch that page if you are interested in giving feedback. [35]

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17:25, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Odrzucenie zdjęcia

Witam,

Wiki odrzuca dodane przeze mnie zdjęcie z komunikatem naruszenia zasad: Ta akcja została automatycznie zidentyfikowanna jako szkodliwa, w związku z tym została odrzucona. Jeśli uważasz, że ta edycja była zasadna, skontaktuj się z administratporem i poinformuj go o zaistniałej sytualcji. Krótki opis reguły nadużycia, do której Twoja akcja została dopasowana: Cross-wiki uploadre filter

Prośba o pomoc jak temu zaradzić. Zdjęcie jest moje ale było już publikowane na IG na profilu prywatnym i firmowym - czy to może być przyczyna odrzucenia?

Z góry dziękuję za pomoc, Iza — Preceding unsigned comment added by Superoptyk (talk • contribs) 09:17, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Iza Chętnie pomogę, ale czy możesz dać jakieś przykłady odrzuconych zdjęć? --Jarekt (talk) 12:20, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Chodziło o zdjęcie

Mam nadzieję, że dobrze je tu umieściłam... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Superoptyk (talk • contribs) 12:08, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Iza, problemem jest ze to zdjęcie jest wielkości 400x400 pikseli wiec wygląda na coś co znalazłaś gdzieś na internecie i podajesz za swoje, i szybko można sprawdzić ze to samo zdjęcie można znaleźć tu czy tu. Także wedle danych EXIF autorem zdjęcia jest "(c)Marcin Wieczorek". W takich wypadkach zazwyczaj prosimy by fotograf (Marcin Wieczorek(?)) przesłał pozwolenie na użycia tego zdjęcia na Commons do OTRS. Jeśli zdjęcie jest przesyłane przez fotografa to zazwyczaj prosimy o przesłanie zdjęcia w oryginalnej wielkości, wtedy jest mniej pytań. --Jarekt (talk) 02:43, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

OK, bardzo dziękuję za wyjaśnienie. Rzeczywiście zdjęcie pewnie robił mąż, a ja potraktowałam je jako własność małżeńską czyli wspólną ;) Pozdrawiam :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Superoptyk (talk • contribs) 09:12, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Commons:Photo challenge/2020 - March - Canyons and gorges/Voting

Just to let you know, I removed number 75 (see this edit), File:Fleur des champs 01.jpg, from Commons:Photo challenge/2020 - March - Canyons and gorges/Voting, a page you created because it doesn't really meet the criteria, Canyons and gorges. Not sure if I'm permitted to do so, if not, just revert. There wasn't any instructions as to what to do in such a case. Calistemon (talk) 23:07, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

I think that is a good solution to this issue. Usually we have some borderline cases and I usually keep them and trust that voters will keep the assignment in mind, b ut this one is clearly unrelated. Thanks. --Jarekt (talk) 00:41, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Wiki loves Africa 2020

When is the result going to come out. Tbiw (talk) 22:11, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

I do not know, so I posted your question at Talk:Wiki Loves Africa 2020. --Jarekt (talk) 02:09, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-15

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Problems

• There was a problem with user pages not being shown properly on desktop. This was because of a bug. It will soon be fixed. [36]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 April. It will be on all wikis from 9 April (calendar).

Future changes

• MediaWiki will use a newer version of Unicode. Some characters that did not have an upper case equivalent before do now. Titles beginning with one of these characters will be moved. A list of these titles can be seen on Phabricator. The titles will be renamed by the user Maintenance script. This will start on 13 April 2020. You can rename them before this if you wish and the new title can be different from the one the script would rename it to. [37]

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19:02, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Photo challenge February results

Hi Jarek, hope you're doing well. You might want to have a look and keep an eye on this. Multichill (talk) 18:45, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Multichill, Thanks for heads up. I can sometimes make the template a bit narrower, I am not sure if that will help but maybe. --Jarekt (talk) 18:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Hmm, it got vandalized again. Multichill (talk) 20:02, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Heading error

There's an error in heading of this template in Croatian languate ("Kršenje autorskih prava"), possible a blank before two equals signs. I don't know where to search for it, so if you could fix it, it would be appreciated. Please see bad heading in red rectangle on the picture.-- Ma▀▄Ga 10:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Fixed It was an issue with Template:End of copyvios/heading/hr --Jarekt (talk) 12:36, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Many, many thanks.-- Ma▀▄Ga 13:23, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-16

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Recent changes

• You can now use the articletopic search word on all Wikipedias. It searches articles by topic. [38]
• You can see wiki tools in the new Tools Gallery. [39]
• You can see edits from the Wikimedia Cloud Services in a new dashboard.
• When you use filters on a history page you sometimes don't see any edits. There is a text explaining this now. Before it was just empty. [40]
• There is a new Wikimedia Technical Blog. [41]

Problems

• There was a problem with the Wikidata database last week. Some wikis went down for twenty minutes. Wikidata and other projects showed error messages. Interwiki links were not shown, some tools did not work and other problems. Some of this was fixed quickly. The developers are working on fixing the rest. [42][43][44]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from April 14. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from April 15. It will be on all wikis from April 16 (calendar).

Future changes

• Some graphs have not worked on mobile. This will soon be fixed. [45]
• The article tab on talk pages of redirects links to the target of the redirect. It could link to the redirect page itself instead. You can leave feedback on this.
• For pages using syntax highlighting, the use of the deprecated <source> tag, as well as the use of the deprecated enclose parameter, will add tracking categories.

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15:30, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

something strange with Template:Book

Hi Jarekt,

I hope you're fine, and have a very nice and Happy Easter.

You may have noticed that I work a lot to complete Book, Artwork and Art Photo with Wikidata items, these last months... thanks to the very nice script written by Multichill to help do this...

A few days ago, I noticed something strange on files with Book template, fed by wikidata item, like this one...

There is a medium field that appears, which is of course empty, since only Artworks need to indicate medium. Do you know what causes this, since the field does not appear in Template:Book ?

Also, why Publisher and Printer are so high in the display (just under Author and Translator), while they should be with publishing info (Place and date). In French, this is very perturbing, because many people already tend to use editor for publisher, but with this display, it's much worse... Could you please put Publisher right where it belongs, between Place and Date of publication ?

Thanks a lot... --Hsarrazin (talk) 17:01, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

also, I just noticed that the QS tool from a Book template tries to add the Author as P170 (Creator), while it should be as P50 (Author). P170 is for Artworks, P50 for written books. Thanks for what you can do about it --Hsarrazin (talk) 14:05, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

I will look into it. Thanks --Jarekt (talk) 14:46, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Hsarrazin, I have fixed the "medium" issue. and I will look into QS issue. About the field ordering: At the moment {{Book}} and {{Artwork}} templates are implemented with almost identical code, especially when wikidata is the only source. Which fields are shown, mostly depends on which properties are present in the wikidata item . Full list of fields which might be displayed can be found in Module:Artwork around line 236 as you can see they are grouped kind of by type: all people together, followed by titles, followed by depicted statements, followed by dates, etc. We can group them differently, with publication info together , etc. So can you look at the full list and tell me how you would like to reorder them? --Jarekt (talk) 01:59, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

concerning the displaying order of the data in Book template, in fact, the original order in which the field appear in the template are quite correct : publisher and printer should not be mixed with author/editor/illustrator, but put afterwards, with the publishing data - just have a look at Template:Book/doc - if the fields appear in the same order in the template, it's quite alright . Thanks ! --Hsarrazin (talk) 13:29, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

also, in Book template, if you could import property P1680 in |Subtitle parameter, that would be really nice - Thanks a lot !

Legal doubts

Hi Jarek, will you please have a look? Thank you! Boston9 (talk) 07:27, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

All resolved, since permission was sent to OTRS. --Jarekt (talk) 15:44, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Awesome. Thank you! Boston9 (talk) 18:28, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Your bot is running without botflag

example. Can you check/change this pls. --JuTa 06:33, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@JuTa: My bot does have bot flag for last 11 years, see Special:UserRights/JarektBot, and never before were there any issues with it. For this task I am using a bot account because of the volume, but I am just using regular tools with no special bot codes involved. All I do is to run a DB query which produces input to QuickStatements, which I then run. Looking through phabricator, there are several tickets requesting all edits by a bot to be set with a bot flag: phabricator:T67494, phabricator:T17501, but all were declined. --Jarekt (talk) 14:26, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Jarekt: Please stop these OTRS related claim-creations. There is no consensus to "hide" OTRS ticket data inside (wikitext invisible) claims and this blatently just duplicated the /required/ ticket statements that must be published on the image page by policy (hence wikitext visible). --Fæ (talk) 07:30, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Fae: This task was proposed and discussed on different forums for 3 weeks, see Commons:Bots/Requests/JarektBot (1), and the consensus was that it is a good idea to copy OTRS ticket numbers to SDC, in order to expose then to future database queries. My bot does not touch the wikitext of the file, so I am confused about what is "hidden" for you. --Jarekt (talk) 14:26, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Congrats on finally getting OTRS ticket data into a Wikibase database. I just noticed you have been trying to accomplish that since 2016. Uzume (talk) 04:36, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I was helping with maintaining OTRS ticket collection for about a decade, trying to come up with more ways to detect abuse of the system. SDC and possibility of storing OTRS tickets there, so they can be queried latter, become possibility only in the end of 2018. --Jarekt (talk) 13:37, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

question about author/creator and Creator template

Hi Jarekt,

I am now in the process of mass transfering book illustrations from wikisource to Commons, after checking that they are both PD regarding the Illustrator AND the publication date.

My question is about the Author info in Information template : if the Author link (linking to Wikisource Author page) matches an existing Creator (with an existing link on the same wikidata item), will they be automatically converted by a bot ?

or should I prepare my transfer by using directly a Creator template (that normally does not exist on wikisource) to be sure that the right Creator template will be placed on the description ?

example : all files in Category:La Belle Nivernaise (Montégut) have been imported with a s:fr:Auteur:Louis Montégut link, which links to d:Q90070874 which in turn is linked to

Louis Montégut  (1855–1906)
Description	French illustrator and drawer
Date of birth/death	1855	1906
Location of birth/death	Nîmes	Nîmes
Authority file	: Q90070874 VIAF: 17366622 SUDOC: 072230088 BNF: 13321210m

creator QS:P170,Q90070874

.

It would be nice if it could be automatically edited here, because I have no tool to do this kind of mass-edition (being on Mac, I cannot use AWB).

Thanks for your help on this :) Hsarrazin (talk) 16:58, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Hsarrazin: , I assume that in most cases books will have wikidata ID, while individual illustrations do not. I do not think we have good template for that because it would be nice to have both image level and book level info. I would suggest something like we have in File:Stroop Report - Warsaw Ghetto Uprising 04.jpg where we have photo level and book level info. Books which are connected to wikidata can be covered by {{Book|Wikidata=Q87860788}} giving

Q87860788
Title	Spanish: Resumen documentado de la causa criminal seguida y sentenciada en el Tribunal de la Comisión Militar de esta Capital contra los reos Carlos Robert, Juan Lagresse, Agustin Dragumette, Narciso Parchappe, y Marcos Mercher  title QS:P1476,es:"Resumen documentado de la causa criminal seguida y sentenciada en el Tribunal de la Comisión Militar de esta Capital contra los reos Carlos Robert, Juan Lagresse, Agustin Dragumette, Narciso Parchappe, y Marcos Mercher " label QS:Les,"Resumen documentado de la causa criminal seguida y sentenciada en el Tribunal de la Comisión Militar de esta Capital contra los reos Carlos Robert, Juan Lagresse, Agustin Dragumette, Narciso Parchappe, y Marcos Mercher "
Object type	version, edition or translation
Language	Spanish
Publication date	1819
Place of publication	Buenos Aires

as for illustration level infobox I would use {{Artwork}} with description and author if known author with Wikidata item can be added by {{Artwork|Artist={{Creator|Wikidata=Q90070874}} }} see

Artist

Louis Montégut  (1855–1906)      Description French illustrator and drawer Date of birth/death 1855  1906  Location of birth/death Nîmes  Nîmes  Authority file : Q90070874 VIAF: 17366622 SUDOC: 072230088 BNF: 13321210m artist QS:P170,Q90070874

If you have some example image I can help creating wikitext that is using current templates to get as much as possible from Wikidata and now SDC, See for example File:Castle of Mey and Gardens - geograph.org.uk - 6000001.jpg. By the way, I am still debugging QS issues you mentioned, The code is designed to do it right but something is not working right. Did you have a chance to look at field order of the fields in Module:Artwork and see if you would prefer different order? --Jarekt (talk) 18:32, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

for books, of cause I add wikidata QID each time I can (and create them for that too)...

for illustrations… I was wondering whether adding {{Creator|Wikidata=Q90070874}} was right ? so, I can do it ? thanks !

but in fact, my question was about whether information imported from wikisource with wikisource-compatible format (i.e. link to Auteur namespace) could be automatically replaced with commons compatible format, i.e. Creator template, using the wikidata link ?

I am quite sure there are thousands of files with wikisource (or wikipedia) links for creators (author or artist, or even editor/translator/illustrator) because they were created years before wikidata existed... and whether they could be treated as Category:Author matching Creator template, Creator template not used ? --Hsarrazin (talk) 18:45, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Hsarrazin, I do not think I understand all the nuances of your question, so I will lift some sentences here and there and answer as well as I can:

My question is about the Author info in Information template : if the Author link (linking to Wikisource Author page) matches an existing Creator (with an existing link on the same wikidata item), will they be automatically converted by a bot ?

I am not aware of such a bot. Usually it works like this: a book gets connected to wikidata, Wikidata already has an author or translator. If you remove the field with author or translator name than Book template will generate Creator tamplate for that field. At some point I run similar cleanup job where I would run AWB to scrape author from infoboxes and compare them in a spreadsheet with wikidata names. I marked the ones that matched so I could go back with AWB and remove those fields. I can not imagine, doing much on Commons without AWB. Maybe you can run AWB on Mac through some emulator software, like here.

my question was about whether information imported from wikisource with wikisource-compatible format (i.e. link to Auteur namespace) could be automatically replaced with commons compatible format, i.e. Creator template, using the wikidata link

If you are uploding new ilustration files, I would use the trick with {{Artwork|Artist={{Creator|Wikidata=Q90070874}} }} to create proper template. If you are uploding new book file, I would just do {{Book|Wikidata=Q87860788}} and use QS to add all the metadata to Wikidata.

I am quite sure there are thousands of files with wikisource (or wikipedia) links for creators (author or artist, or even editor/translator/illustrator) because they were created years before wikidata existed

Yes, I would first add Wikidata field to them, and than if commons has more info than wikidata than transfer as much as possible with QS commands

....whether they could be treated as Category:Author matching Creator template, Creator template not used

That category was created in attempt to match peoples names to creator templates, unfortunately no bot conversion was possible as it was producing very high percentage of bad maches.

I do not know if I answered your question. At some point I was working on connecting a lot of Book templates with wikidata items. It took a lot of manual research which could not be done by bot. Some tasks can be speed up a LOT by AWB (in bot or in non-bot modes), and I would try to get it. I could run some tasks if they are clearly defined, like for this list of files do this replacement. Even better, read about Adding_a_different_value_to_each_edited_page with AWB. If you set it up I can run it. --Jarekt (talk) 03:25, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, connecting Book template with wikidata items is a very long task, which needs much research and work... I've done quite a bit of them, on fr books, but it will clearly be a long task. I try to systematically create wikidata item (with catalog IDs) for new books on wikisource, but we have a very high pile of books without proper cataloguing wikidata item :)

I am in the process of cleaning up all this, but, it is really..... long, and CANNOT be automated... --Hsarrazin (talk) 07:12, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

concerning the displaying order of the data in Book template, in fact, the original order in which the field appear in the template are quite correct : publisher and printer should not be mixed with author/editor/illustrator, but put afterwards, with the publishing data - just have a look at Template:Book/doc - if the fields appear in the same order in the template, it's quite alright . Thanks ! --Hsarrazin (talk) 13:29, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

also, in Book template, if you could import property P1680 in |Subtitle parameter, that would be really nice - Thanks a lot !

Module:I18n/size/doc

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Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:27, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Module:Wikidata label

There's a number of errors popping up at images like File:Boston National Historical Park, Massachusetts LOC 83695667.jpg related to this module. You were the last one to edit it. Do you know what the issue is? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 03:36, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Ricky81682, Fixed thanks for heads up. --Jarekt (talk) 03:41, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

This hasn't been fixed. See cases like File:Alpes-Maritimes Saint-Martin-Vésubie, l'Hôtel de Ville ND Phot.jpg. The line

eLink = proj..':Special:EntityPage/'..item -- wikidata (WD) link

in Module:Wikidata label raises still a Module:No globals error. --AFBorchert (talk) 05:28, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

See also Commons:Village pump/Technical#Lua error it creator templates. -- Geagea (talk) 06:20, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Today's changes in Module:Wikidata label

The changes probably cause Lua error in Module:Wikidata_label at line 140: Tried to write global eLink in files which use {{Creator}}, e.g. File:Cementerio, Tulcán, Ecuador, 2015-07-21, DD 44.JPG. --jdx ^Re: 05:31, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Indeed, see the above section. eLink should have been declared local. Without this declaration, it is global and hits the no globals trap. --AFBorchert (talk) 06:12, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Sorry about this. Somehow the issue was not detected by unit testing done prior to release. --Jarekt (talk) 19:07, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-17

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• The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 4 May 2020.

Recent changes

• The small wiki toolkits is to help smaller wikis that need technical skills. They can learn and share technical skills. [46]
• Over-qualified CSS selectors in Wikimedia skins have been removed. div#content is now .mw-body. div.portal is now .portal. div#footer is now #footer. This is so the skins can use HTML5 elements. If your gadgets or user styles used them you will have to update them. [47]

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• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

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• Some things on the wikis might look weird or not work in Internet Explorer 8 in the future. Internet Explorer 8 was replaced in 2011. [48]
• The font in the diffs will change. [49]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 April next week. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 April next week. It will be on all wikis from 30 April next week (calendar).

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18:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

URL shortener

Hi Jarek, just in case you didn't notice: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=spamblacklist&user=JarektBot. Best, --Achim (talk) 21:22, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Achim, I did not see this, my bot is not adding anything but it is trying to perform a "touch" operation. It is adding an empty line to the file, to trigger a purge so that the file will be removed from Category:Pages with script errors. I thought that spam blacklist only applies to new additions, not the cases where be "bad" URL was added before the blacklist. Otherwise nobody can ever edit this file. --Jarekt (talk) 01:49, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I see. This annoying behavior is existing for many years now and creating/applying an SBL-override right is still pending. Not even admins' edits can override the SBL. Archiver bots regularly stumble upon that. Another problem is reverting a recent edit if a blacklisted string has been added long time ago. I use to comment out such a link by wrapping <nowiki>URL</nowiki> around it. Best, --Achim (talk) 08:17, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Module:LangSwitch

Hello Jarekt, I've question about Module:LangSwitch, that I added Arabic translation to Template:PD-old-warning-text but text appear left to right instead of right to left (example on Template:Licensed-PD-Art/ar), so Does the module support rtl issue? --Alaa :)..! 09:54, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Alaa , Module:LangSwitch does not have anything to do with that, all it does is fetch the text. I think I have fixed the issue with this edit. Please check. --Jarekt (talk) 01:46, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Jarekt, yes fixed, and I made same edit here. Thanks again --Alaa :)..! 07:33, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

JarektBot

Dear Jarekt,

Even though JarektBot has a Bot flag how is it flooding the RC?

--✝iѵɛɳ२२४०^{†ลℓк †๏ мэ} 04:12, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

User:Tiven2240 Sorry about it. It is a known bug in the software. See and maybe comment at phabricator:T246746. --Jarekt (talk) 14:08, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Multilingual description from caption

Hi Jarekt, in {{Information}} now grabs the description from the caption. I'm quite happy with that, but currently you only get the output in one language, for example [50], nl and pl pl (last one is throwing a "Lua error in Module:Information at line 271: attempt to concatenate local 'label' (a nil value).", my assumption is that a translation in Polish is missing). It would be nice to show the description in multiple languages. The approach I would take:

• If we have labels in less than 5 languages, just show them all with the current user language at the top (maybe other languages slightly smaller or something like that)
• If we have labels in 5 or more languages, grab babel info (must be available too in lua, right?) and show these languages with the current user language at the top

Of course we have to be careful with fun cases where we don't have a label in the current user language, etc. I'm sure we can use some of the existing language fallback rules. What do you think? Multichill (talk) 12:27, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

The issue was with the source label. I fixed it in the sandbox, I will test it more and deploy. I like your idea about description. Five is a good number, I do not have access to babel as far as I can tell. Lua does not even have a way of getting user's language other than relying on {{int:lang}}, which is a problem when a lua code is copied to other projects where it might not be set up. See phabricator:T68051. I will try to get a prototype working, after I fix some other issues. --Jarekt (talk) 01:11, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

P6305 SDC

Hi Jared, I noticed on uploads I made the category Category:Files with PermissionOTRS template but without P6305 SDC statement is appearing. If I understand well, this has to do with the ticket# on OTRS. On the files I am uploading the ticket# is listed, however through another template, Template:wikiportrait2. An example is this file: File:Jan vermeulen-1587568756.jpg. Perhaps this can be corrected. Many files have this wikiportrait template. A randomly chosen file, File:"Embarazo de Ideas".jpg also had the ticket no. listed through the permission template. So I think it does not work as assumed. But perhaps I totally miss the purpose of P6305 SDC, could you then explain this to me (and on the template). Kind regards, Elly (talk) 08:56, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Elly, {{Wikiportrait2}} and probably dozen other templates, call {{PermissionOTRS}}, so one way or the other the template is present in the file. Category:Files with PermissionOTRS template but without P6305 SDC statement catalogs files that do have {{PermissionOTRS}}, bit not Wikimedia VRTS ticket number (P6305). --Jarekt (talk) 13:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't understand what you want to see on these files. Elly (talk) 13:23, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Elly, I want P6305 SDC statement to be added; however my preference is if it is added by a bot and not by hand. I am running Commons:Bots/Requests/JarektBot (1) a bot job that uses this category. So this is a maintenance category used by a bot, and as with any other hidden category you can change you preferences so you do not see it. --Jarekt (talk) 13:41, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

thanks, i understand now. Elly (talk) 15:05, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-19

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Problems

• Some wikis will be on read-only for a few minutes on 5 May. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [51]
• Some wikis will be on read-only for a few minutes on 7 May. This will also affect CentralAuth. This can for example affect global renames, password changes, changing or confirming your email address and logging in to new wikis. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [52]

Changes later this week

• You can get a notification when someone links to a page you created. You can soon turn these notifications off for individual pages. [53]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 May. It will be on all wikis from 7 May (calendar).

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16:59, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Template:Resolution restricted-by-sa

Template:Resolution restricted-by-sa has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this template, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Mike Peel (talk) 18:42, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Template:Label

Hi Jarekt,

I was using Template:Label in this way {{Label|Q2911219|{{{1|{{int:lang}}}}}|link=}} see example File:Operation Rhodes. X.jpg and it was showing "IDF Spokesperson's Unit" in English and "דובר צה"ל" in Hebrew. But now I can see only the Q. Can you help. -- Geagea (talk) 20:02, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

I undid my change. Sorry about this, current version of the template is written in a way that is causing database consistency issues, and I am trying to fix it, by using different Lua functions. Although the page works perfectly on all the test cases we assembled, there is always another case. --Jarekt (talk) 20:09, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks but it doesn't seems to work. -- Geagea (talk) 20:35, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

I will investigate. At the moment the code is at the version that worked before. --Jarekt (talk) 21:11, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Geagea, It seems to be a Lua issue. See Commons:Village_pump/Technical#template:Label. --Jarekt (talk) 21:48, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your efforts. It seems to be working now. -- Geagea (talk) 08:28, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Datafying the Map template

Hi! @Librarian lena: suggested on the talk page of the Map template that it would be made into a module like the Artwork template and others. What would it take? I am also happy to participate in the process! Cheers, Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 08:13, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi! I am slowly making some sense of the Map module, and I would like to have a tiny example about how to add more properties to the module. I will be then able to replicate that process for quite a while. Thanks for your help already! – 13:10, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Susannaanas, I added map_date field. We will need to move translations from Template:I18n/map to Module:I18n/map, unless we can find a q-id with the same label on wikidata. --Jarekt (talk) 14:04, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Artwork and QS button...

Hi,

I was creating items on wikidata for paintings, and I used the QS arrow to transfer data on wikidata at 20:12 (a few minutes ago).

And now, on File:Cardinale_Alberico_Archinto_(1698-1758).jpg, the QS arrow only links to Commons to Wikidata QuickStatements.svg instead of launching QS... did you just change something ? if it's the case, just let me know when I can use it again...

It not, there is a real problem... Thanks for your help. :) --Hsarrazin (talk) 18:30, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

PS : seems the problem is on this file, because it worked on this other file of the same painting... don't know what could have triggered this ... --Hsarrazin (talk) 18:39, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Hsarrazin, No, I did not change anything. I run into this issue sometimes. It is caused by some undetected issue in creating QS string resulting in invalid URL. In case of File:Cardinale_Alberico_Archinto_(1698-1758).jpg the QS link works for me while viewing in English but fails while viewing in French. Usually QS should not depend on language, in this case the {{Title}} template is producing English label "Portrait de cardinal Alberico Archinto (1698-1758)" somehow and that is resulting in bad URL. You can see some of this if you look at html version of the page and search for "QS:", which will show you all the templates communicating with the {{Artwork}} about their content in language independent way. By the way, I still am planning to do some updates to Module:Artwork, just have other fixes I have to do first. If you are creating new items, than my favorite way is to create by hand one with title and description and than add item number to the file, use QS and than clean up later. I often have to add some URLs afterwords. You might have discovered similar approach. --Jarekt (talk) 03:37, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

thanks for explanations... I first thought you were working on the module, then when I noticed it was only this image that had the problem I was really wondering...

yes, I do approximately the same : I've been creating items for all Cézanne's works last year, and am now working on works in Institution:Musée_des_Beaux-Arts_de_Lyon. I create the item with title, description, nature and import from Commons :) - that's a good way, when the template is Artwork... not, when it's an old Information one

thanks for all you do for improving these tools and templates :) --Hsarrazin (talk) 10:55, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-20

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Recent changes

• Everyone can now import photos from Flickr to Commons with the UploadWizard. Before this only autopatrollers on Commons could import photos from Flickr. [54]

Problems

• Commons will be on read-only for a few minutes on 12 May. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [55]
• Several wikis including Wikidata will be on read-only for a few minutes on 19 May. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. English Wikipedia will be on read-only for a few minutes on 21 May 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [56][57]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 May. It will be on all wikis from 14 May (calendar).

Future changes

• JavaScript scripts and gadgets can no longer check multiple keys at once via mw.config.exists() or mw.user.tokens.exists(). You can use exists() or get() to check one at a time instead. [58]

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20:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

PGNiG uploads

Hi Jarek, greetings from Warsaw. Could you please have a look at this versus this, and two other twin PGNiG uploads of this User? Thank you. Boston9 (talk) 13:20, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done--Jarekt (talk) 02:18, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

File:Katherine young 5182935.jpg

File:Katherine young 5182935.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Mdaniels5757 (talk) 02:27, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

null edit using awk

Hi, your bot recently created some file decription pages of deleted files. I.e. File:CSX 5359 at Altanta, GA on June 10, 1987 (22146057823).jpg. There seems to be somehing wrong. Can you check this please. --JuTa 17:20, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

PS: Other examples you can find on Commons:Database reports/Blank single-author pages and some old versions of this. --JuTa 17:24, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

User:JuTa Thanks for letting me know. Due to phabricator:T245349 every file I add SDC statement to have to be purged. I purge files using AWB to add a line to the end of the file description. The edit is ignored but a file is purged. My bot does that for every file I add SDC statement to. It seems like my AWB mush not have "skip when page does not exist" option turned on and the file was moved between the time I generated the list and did the edit. I will make sure to check that option. Thanks. --Jarekt (talk) 19:36, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Copyright status: File:Rob sheer 5182795.jpg

Copyright status: File:Rob sheer 5182795.jpg

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File:Rob sheer 5182795.jpg

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Tech News: 2020-21

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Recent changes

• If you forget your password you can ask for a new one to be sent to your email address. You need to know your email address or your username. You can choose that you need to enter both your email address and your username. This is a preference. This is to get fewer password reset emails someone else asked for. This is now available on all Wikimedia wikis. [59][60]

Problems

• There is a bug that creates problems for iPhone users with iOS 13 and Safari. If you use an iPhone to read or edit Wikipedia and see bugs on the mobile site you can report them. [61]
• Several wikis including Wikidata will be on read-only for a few minutes on 19 May. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. English Wikipedia will be on read-only for a few minutes on 21 May 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [62][63]

Changes later this week

• The Wikipedia app for Android can let users add depicts on Commons. The beta version used computer-aided tagging. This was removed to get more specific depicts. [64]
• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• Graphs will be rendered in the reader's browser. This will use Javascript. Graphs will hopefully work better for everyone who uses Javascript. It will not work for users who don't use Javascript. This will not affect diagrams in image files. [65]
• Some CSS for the skins has been simplified. This affects div#p-personal, div#p-navigation, div#p-interaction, div#p-tb, div#p-lang, div#p-namespaces, div#p-variants and div#footer. They will have to remove div. You will have to update your gadgets, scripts or user styles. This is so we can use HTML5. [66]
• Some CSS for the Vector skin has been changed. This affects #p-variants, #p-namespaces, #p-personal, #p-views and #p-cactions. They can no longer use > ul. You might need to update your gadgets, scripts or user styles. See how.

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17:18, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Issue with template or module Artwork

Jarekt, I think you are the only one editing Module:Artwork. In Commons:Forum User:Stepro pointed to two issues he noticed in File:Paula Moderson-Becker - Selbstbildnis am 6 Hochzeitstag - 1906.jpeg:

• The title was twice visible. User:Giftzwerg 88 fixed this in Special:Diff/420156949/420181590 by editing the structured data, but this should not have happened before.
  Side remark: Not a mistake, but I have noticed that in Template:Information when there is an empty description, but a caption in structured data exists, meanwhile the latter use instead. Seems to be quite similar to me.
• The geo coordinates (for location of museum) are not displayed correctly. Another example is the template use in Category:Last Supper by Leonardo da Vinci (found by Ralf Roletschek – I do not ping him, because according to himself he does not understand English). In both cases the coordinates are fine in Wikidata.

— Speravir – 00:30, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Speravir, Thank you for letting me know.

• The issue with title in File:Paula Moderson-Becker - Selbstbildnis am 6 Hochzeitstag - 1906.jpeg I think is with Module:Title {{Title |wikidata=Q22570122 |userlang=de |en=Self-portrait on the 6th wedding anniversary|de=Selbstbildnis am 6. Hochzeitstag }} gives "
  Selbstbildnis am 6. Hochzeitstag 
  label QS:Lde,"Selbstbildnis am 6. Hochzeitstag"

label QS:Len,"Self-portrait on the 6th wedding anniversary"

". Yes that is wrong. I will look into it.

• The issue with coordinates I know about. I did not figure out how to fix it but I was already working on it.
• The Template:Information template is capable of filling all the fields from SDC if fields are missing, see for example wikicode and SDC of File:Seneca Rocks climbing - 13.jpg. And yes {{Artwork}}, {{Title}}, etc. can do the same. Thanks --Jarekt (talk) 03:57, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I mentioned {{Information}} just for comparison, thank you here for the further info. — Speravir – 18:42, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Questionnaire invitation (a new tool to be developed, to verify media data)

Hi there, I'm developing a tool to assist users in verifying (structured) data of media on commons.

To understand the community's needs, I would like to invite you to participate in this questionnaire: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScbNdJdQYN1yBvEeKne48eWDU6SBsdlUfNBAmZyvUEBkCR1Gg/viewform?usp=sf_link. It should take ~2 minutes.

Thanks a lot. :D

(You received this message as you seems to have experience with structured data on Wikimedia projects.)

-- Gabrielchl (talk) 23:54, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:A B Alexandrov.jpg

Hi Jarekt. Please could you kindly close the above discussion? It appears to be showing a "keep" consensus, and it has not been edited since February. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 08:36, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Storye book: I am sorry but if I vote in the DR than I never close it, so it does not appear like I am advocating and judging. --Jarekt (talk) 12:56, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I didn't realise that. Storye book (talk) 08:46, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Update for Commons:List of primary license tags

Hello Jarekt,
Years ago you created Commons:List of primary license tags. The GFDL was droppen from the list as acceptable licences as only licence for on files. Are there any plany to update the list or does this list represent all licences without any status information if they can be used as single licence or not. --D-Kuru (talk) 15:04, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

I updated the list, the best I could. The purpose of the list is to monitor changes to Category:Primary license tags (flat list) which lists all valid license templates. Any template on the list should be sufficient to be used as the only license in the file. The list does not distinguish between templates which were depreciated but still allowed for old files and templates which can be used on new uploads. --Jarekt (talk) 01:27, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

photo license

Hi Jarekt, thisthis edit makes the photo license unvisible.

Thanks, I fixed the file. The reason was that the file had 2 alternative names for the same field. --Jarekt (talk) 18:04, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I see, thank you. Raymond 18:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

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• The visual editor will now work in the Modern skin. The changes that needed to happen for this to work could cause problems for some scripts or gadgets. [67]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 26. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 27. It will be on all wikis from May 28 (calendar).

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14:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Module:Wikidata_art broken

Hello,

sorry for the annoyance, but I am afraid some of the last modifications to Module:Wikidata_art broke something, I get a

Lua error in Module:Wikidata_art at line 481: attempt to concatenate field '?' (a nil value).

error message on all pages using {{Art Photo}}.

Cheers! Rama (talk) 06:30, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. It looks like it is already fixed. --Jarekt (talk) 12:56, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Commons - Media Search

Greetings,

The Structured Data team is working on an alternative, image-focused prototype for media search on Commons. The prototype uses categories, structured data as well as wikitext from Commons, and Wikidata to find its results. The development team would like your feedback on the prototype, as they are looking to work to further enhance the search experience on Commons. If you have a moment, please look over the project page set up on Commons to find a link to the prototype and leave your feedback on the talk page. Thanks for your time, I'll be posting message similar to this one to other pages on Commons. The team is looking forward to reading what you think. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:47, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

institution and department in artwork template and photograph template

Hello Jarekt, sorry for bothering you again.

I noticed for a while ago that the the way parameters "institution" and "department" in artwork template and photograph template, shows changed. See File:Marc-red and blue horses.jpg or File:Dan Hadani collection (990044394630205171).jpg. The "institution" is shows as collection. -- Geagea (talk) 06:29, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

That change happen on Nov 15, 2018, based on This and this discussion. --Jarekt (talk) 12:19, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Bat it does not make sense. Does the Louvre is a collectiom? I'm adding "National Library of Israel" in the field institution but getting collection (see File:Dan Hadani collection (990044413420205171).jpg). I'm working now with them and they are wondering. National Library of Israel is not a collection and there is no other field to add institution rather then adding extra Information field. I think that there is a place to collection but not instead of institution. -- Geagea (talk) 16:31, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

I know that it is community consensus and it is not depend only in yourself, but wanted to know your opinion about it. -- Geagea (talk) 21:54, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Geagea, Collection is the term used on Wikidata for collection (P195) (אוסף), and at least in English one would say that Mona Lisa is in the Louvre collection. May the issue is in other languages, I get the label for that field from collection (Q2668072), which has Hebrew version (אוסף) different from label used for P195 (אוסף). Maybe I should use P195 as a source of the label. --Jarekt (talk) 03:54, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

I understand your point but using the word "collection" have more ways to understand. When you say it in your way it means that all in the Louvre is one collection. But at least in the National Library of Israel they have collections in thier so called "collection". I think that in we adding "|institution=" then we should get the institution name and a new parameter (|collection=) should be created. I think that the current situation may be confiusing even in English. -- Geagea (talk) 11:46, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Geagea, It is a little bit like with English label "technique" and "medium", for some artworks one works better and for some other ones the other. I personally would be equally happy with either one. May be the best thing to do would be to start discussion at Template_talk:Artwork, proposing to change label "collection (Q2668072)" to "Institution". We should invite the 2018 discussion participants, and maybe announce it at [d:[Wikidata talk:WikiProject sum of all paintings]]. --Jarekt (talk) 12:20, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

I have at least one specific example File:Dan Hadani collection (990044413420205171).jpg. We can not call Dan Hadani collection and the National Library of Israel both collection. One is institution and the other is collection. If we have both "|Institution=" an "|collection=" then users can add Louvre to "|collection=" if they find it suitable. But if we have a specific collection of Institution then the correct form should be Institution=Institution and collection=collection. Anyway thank for you patient explanation. I will start discussion at Template talk:Artwork. I might need help with the announce at Wikidata. -- Geagea (talk) 13:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

SDC category question

Hi Jarekt, Could you explain the difference between the following two categories:

• Category:Pages with local coordinates and missing SDC coordinates
• Category:Pages with local camera coordinates and missing SDC coordinates

They seem to be highlighting the same issue, but they are not the same. I'm happy to help cleaning up these categories, so I guess it would help to understand the difference. --Schlurcher (talk) 18:31, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Schlurcher, Few months ago I stopped using Category:Pages with local coordinates and missing SDC coordinates and replaced it with Category:Pages with local camera coordinates and missing SDC coordinates and Category:Pages with local object coordinates and missing SDC coordinates. Eventually Category:Pages with local coordinates and missing SDC coordinates will empty out. --Jarekt (talk) 04:13, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for taking time to explain. I will purge then Category:Pages with local coordinates and missing SDC coordinates and focus my bot efforts on the camara one. I'm sure I will have to implement a lot of new coordinate variants while doing so, so I expect this to take a long time. After that I'll approach the object one. Please ping me if you reply as I have now unwatched your talk page. --Schlurcher (talk) 07:50, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Schlurcher, almost 3M files is too much to purge (or O jut do not know how to do it). What "new coordinate variants" do you mean? I think we only have 2 camera coordinates and object coordinates. In case your bot adds any coordinates, make sure to capture heading (P7787) too. --Jarekt (talk) 13:16, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, my bot is capable of adding heading (P7787) too. Currently only for camera coordinates. I will implement object coordinates next. From my internationalization tasks I have learned to always implement the full template match, not just parts. So form Category:Pages with local camera coordinates and missing SDC coordinates when you look at the leftover cases, people are quite creative:

• {{Location dec|48.47513|135.06169|heading:S}}
• {{Location dec|-20.242227|44.428024|source:Flickr}}, etc.

So there are a lot of coordinate variants to consider. --Schlurcher (talk) 20:47, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Schlurcher, it is always tricky when you scrape wikitext, as there are a lot of possible date formats DMS, decimal, even latitude and longitude as a single string. Also heading can be a number or a compass point, like NNW. At some point when I was preparing for adding coordinates ( I will not attempt it until phabricator:T246746 is fixed), I was planning to use quarry:41693 query which parses the URL to geohack, which has lat, lon and heading in a single uniform format. --Jarekt (talk) 02:25, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-23

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Recent changes

• There is a new beta version of the Wikimedia Commons app for Android. It has a new zoom function when you look at images. It can also suggest places when you upload geotagged photos. [68]

Problems

• There was a problem with the Commons database on 27 May. Commons could not be edited for eight minutes. Because of this problem the database was moved. This caused another short read-only time on 29 May. [69][70][71]
• The Vector skin had a problem where you couldn't add links to the article in other languages. You couldn't see the section if there were no links to other languages already. It also removed content translation links and links to language settings. This has now been fixed. [72]

Changes later this week

• You can get a notification when someone links to a page you created. You can turn these notifications off for individual pages. You can soon turn them off also in the notifications you get. [73]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 June. It will be on all wikis from 4 June (calendar).

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22:31, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

File:Geoff Keighley Gameslab 2018.jpeg

Hi Jarekt. I just tagged File:Geoff Keighley Gameslab 2018.jpeg as having no license because it was "licensed" on Flickr under the PD-Mark (which is not usable on Commons). I noticed later that this had already been done before and was turned over to a eletion request. When this issue was explained, uploader Masem came to the conclusion that the files are tagged incorrectly and would require either a separate grant or a change of license from the author. The congress' press site linking to the photo-stream is not sufficient proof of such permission and none has been granted since (as far as I can see), so the image should have been deleted. However, you closed the deletion request as keep and tagged the image as being a CC-0 instead (even though it is not). Could you possibly clarify how this is correct? A series of my uploads from the same author, all marked as PD, were deleted for the same reason. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 11:01, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

User:IceWelder, I explained my position in Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#Double_standards_for_Public_Domain_Mark. --Jarekt (talk) 11:27, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-24

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Some articles have tables that can be sorted in different ways. For example a list of countries can be sorted alphabetically but you can click on the size column to sort them by size. If you clicked on the column a second time it would sort the countries from the bottom to the top instead. A third click will now take you back to the original sorting. [74]
• Self-closed tags now work as in the HTML5 specifications. This means you should stop using some of them. <b/> is an example of a self-closed tag that won't work. area, base, br, col, embed, hr, img, input, keygen, link, meta, param, source, track, wbr can be self-closed. Pages with tags that should not be self-closed have been listed in a tracking category since 2016. They will be listed in Special:LintErrors/self-closed-tag. This doesn't affect <references /> or <ref />. [75]
• There is a banner called WikidataPageBanner. It is for example used by the Wikivoyages, Wikimedia Russia and the Catalan, Basque, Galician and Turkish Wikipedias. It will now been seen by mobile visitors too. Before this it was only seen on desktop. The wikis should update instructions on MediaWiki:Sitenotice so that editors know to test and style for mobile too. [76][77]

Changes later this week

• You can now edit MassMessage descriptions through the API. This is useful for tools and gadgets. [78]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 June. It will be on all wikis from 11 June (calendar).

Future changes

• A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. It will not work after 13 July. Wikis should use TemplateStyles instead. 118 wikis need to fix this. You can read more and see if your wiki is affected. [79]

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21:12, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

"archive all sections not active for more than 3 months"

[80] gives me a time-out error, so I can't see exactly what you've changed, but if it is the archive settings like your edit summary indicates, please could you undo it? I prefer the workflow where each section is archived after it is dealt with, not after a set time period. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:00, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

un- Done. Sorry about it. The page seemed so large I thought there was some issue with archiving. --Jarekt (talk) 22:19, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I really need to work through the backlog... Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:34, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Your bot blanked hundreds of pages

Hi! this edit blanked the page. I think there are 300+ with the same problem. --MGA73 (talk) 16:27, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

MGA73, Thanks for letting me know. I found those edits using here, and I will clean it up. The issue is due AWB occasionally going berserk, as reported in phabricator:T241614. --Jarekt (talk) 18:48, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Can you fix automatic or do you have to revert one by one? I can help do that if needed. --MGA73 (talk) 19:08, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

I started fixing some... Will it make your work harder? I think all the files are here if that is easier. --MGA73 (talk) 19:30, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

I do not know any automatic way. In the past then that happen I was notified before User:YiFeiBot tagged it, so I could use revert operation, but this time around the fastest way seem to be go to history, click "cur" next to last good edit, than click undo, and save. I can make it a bit faster by using AWB for keeping track of files to edit. For tracking purposes I will add remaining files to Category:Media without a license: to be fixed by Jarekt. --Jarekt (talk) 19:34, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

MGA73 Thanks for help fixing those and feel free to remove the category if you fix any. --Jarekt (talk) 19:39, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

I tried undo but that did not work because of the edit made by YiFeiBot. So I clicked the last good version, pressed edit and then saved. It has been a while since I was admin so I could not remember if there were better tools. --MGA73 (talk) 19:41, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Yeah! All fixed! --MGA73 (talk) 07:39, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks you. I fixed a bunch but I think you got most of them. I was employing your approach but figured out keyboard keys to do some operations without mouse which is faster. Thanks again --Jarekt (talk) 12:22, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-25

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Recent changes

• Toolforge hosts several tools created by the Wikimedia community like edit counters or enhanced editors. It is changing the domain from tools.wmflabs.org to toolforge.org. The routing scheme is moving from tools.wmflabs.org/toolname to toolname.toolforge.org. You can read the details. Tools that use OAuth will have to be updated to keep working. You can ask for help.

Problems

• There is a Wikidata item link in the sidebar on many pages. This disappeared for a couple of days for users who have the Monobook skin. This was because of a bug. It has now been fixed. [81]
• Editing, logging in and logging out didn't work properly for a short period of time last week. It was soon fixed. [82]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 June. It will be on all wikis from 18 June (calendar).

Future changes

• Pywikibot is a Python library to automate work on wikis. It will not support Python 2 after the new version in July. Support for Python 3.4 and MediaWiki below 1.19 will also be dropped. You should migrate to Python 3. You can ask for help. [83]
• The selectors .menu and .vectorMenu will no longer work in the Vector skin. This can affect gadgets and user scripts. .menu should be replaced by ul. .vectorMenu should be replaced by .vector-menu. [84]

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21:38, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

File:J.B.Deczkowski po wyjściu z Pawiaka - marzec 1942.jpg

File:J.B.Deczkowski po wyjściu z Pawiaka - marzec 1942.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Buidhe (talk) 05:08, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

File:Gęsiowka Prison in Warsaw (1944).jpg

File:Gęsiowka Prison in Warsaw (1944).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Buidhe (talk) 05:11, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry. If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

• File:AK-soldiers Parasol Regiment Warsaw Uprising 1944.jpg

And also:

• File:Gęsiowka Prison in Warsaw Patrol Giewonta (1944).jpg
• File:Jewish prisones of KZGesiowka liberated by Polish Soldiers of Home Army Warsaw1944.jpg
• File:Warsaw by Deczkowki - Bonifraterska - 15710 (1945).jpg
• File:Warsaw by Deczkowki - Franciszkańska 12 - 15706 (1945).jpg
• File:Warsaw by Deczkowki - Franciszkańska 12 - 15767 (1945).jpg
• File:Warsaw by Deczkowki - Gęsiówka Bunker - 15803 (1945).jpg
• File:Warsaw by Deczkowki - Gęsiówka Tower - 15801 (1945).jpg
• File:Warsaw by Deczkowki - Jan Boży Hospital - 15825 (1945).jpg
• File:Warsaw by Deczkowki - Książęca 1 - 15759 (1945).jpg
• File:Warsaw by Deczkowki - Książęca 1 - 15761 (1945).jpg
• File:Warsaw by Deczkowki - Okrąg 2 - 15771 (1945).jpg
• File:Warsaw by Deczkowki - Wilanowska 1 - 15769 (1945).jpg
• File:Warsaw by Deczkowski - Gęsiówka - 15688 (1945).jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Batalion Zośka - 15915.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - German POW - 15903.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Jan Luniewski - 15893.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Kolegium A - 1.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Kolegium A - 15885.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Kolegium A -15843.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Kolegium A -15861.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Kolegium A -15883.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Radosław and Irma -15845.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Wacek Platoon - 15831.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Wacek Platoon - 15841.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Wacek Platoon - 15887.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Wacek Platoon - 15889.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Wacek Platoon - 15891.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Wacek Platoon - 15897.jpg
• File:Warsaw Uprising by Deczkowki - Wacek Platoon - 15911.jpg

Yours sincerely, Buidhe (talk) 05:16, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

File:Warsaw Uprising - Giewont Company in Gęsiowka.jpg

File:Warsaw Uprising - Giewont Company in Gęsiowka.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Buidhe (talk) 07:16, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

New category name

I would like to make a new category for populated place in BiH, Trebižat. There is already a category with the same name, river with the same name as populated place. What would be the name of new category for populated place? This category of river Trebižat is confusing me.-- Ma▀▄Ga 14:25, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Fixed, See Category:Trebižat (river) and Category:Trebižat. --Jarekt (talk) 02:47, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much, and sorry for delayed answer.-- Ma▀▄Ga 16:40, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Re:

Witaj, tam jest po prostu błędny szablon. Powinien być albo PD-Polish, albo Anonymous-EU. A przede wszystkim - "published" to nie oznacza "printed", tylko "make public", nawet w jednej odbitce. A fotki są z archiwum domowego rodziny Deczkowskich (jedno legitymacyjne) tu publikowane i tu proweniencja: http://bazhum.muzhp.pl/media//files/Niepodleglosc_i_Pamiec/Niepodleglosc_i_Pamiec-r2015-t22-n4_(52)/Niepodleglosc_i_Pamiec-r2015-t22-n4_(52)-s105-154/Niepodleglosc_i_Pamiec-r2015-t22-n4_(52)-s105-154.pdf Pozdrawiam serdecznie: Andros64 (talk) 16:34, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Andros64, Kwestja "Published" = "printed" vs. "make public" to nie jest jasna. Mozna się o to kłócić, ale jeśli znajdziemy miejsce drukowanej publikacji to sprawa jest jasna. Jak używam PD-Polish to prawie zawsze dodaje źródło gdzie ta fotografia była wydrukowana, by unikać tego rodzaju kłótni. --Jarekt (talk) 17:20, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Photos proposed for tagging or reviewing tags

What to do when picture is constantly repeating in this tool? For example, this picture has tag "Hutovska tvrđava", this has also the tag (and many more pictures). I would understand if picture has no tags. Any suggestion? My english is not so good, I hope that you understand me.-- Ma▀▄Ga 16:48, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

User:MaGa I was not paying much attention to depict tools, so I do not know them. Which tool do those images show up in? --Jarekt (talk) 12:21, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

This is the tool I'm talking about. If you're not using it, never mind, disregard my question.-- Ma▀▄Ga 15:58, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-26

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• There are some new tools to make it easier for newcomers to start editing. They are available on some wikis. These wikis had a problem with the visual editor for a short period of time last week. This was because of a bug in the new tools. It was soon fixed. [85]
• Some user scripts and gadgets stopped working because of a change to CSS selectors. .vectorTabs should be replaced with .vector-menu-tabs to fix this. [86]

Changes later this week

• The developers are working on a new interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. This will be released on 24 June. You can give feedback. [87]
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18:48, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for responding to Speedy Deletion - BBB Screenshot

According to speedy deletion nonimation I ask Fred Dixon Developer to grant permission to WikiCommons licensing email. He responded to me that he granted the permission additionally to the BBB OpenSource license. --Bert Niehaus (talk) 13:31, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

more details

Some of us here on the wikimedia commons, and other WMF projects, have a meaningful grasp of the basics of the very complicated field of intellectual property law. Those of us who do represent islands of (semi)competence in a vast sea of ignorance.

• Many, maybe most flickr contributors think that if they released an image under a free license on flickr they can claw back their IP rights, by replacing that with "all rights reversed" on their flickr page, if they change their minds.
• Some museums claim that their faithful inhouse digitization of their originals of public domain drawings or works of art qualify for a brand new IP rights.
• Many, perhaps most, DOD webmasters, who digitize images loaned to them by GIs, or their heirs as "courtesy images", even when those images were originally snapped by official DOD photographers - as if owning the last physical copy of a rare image entitled the copy-holder to claim IP rights on the underlying image.
• Even the staff at large newspapers, whose full time job is to manage the images they use, can turn out to be clueless. I've uploaded hundreds of official DoD portraits that illustrate official DoD bios. They are all in the same format. Usually, the officer is a full Colonel, or full Naval Captain, or higher. They are wearing a dress uniform, with all their medals, and an American flag is visible over their left shoulder. About a dozen years ago I uploaded what looked like an official image of a JAG officer that was illustrating an article in the Miami Herald. A year or two later it was challenged. So, I found the email address of the newspaper's photo curator. I think their initial reply was an assurance that they always use photos properly. And when I wrote back for the source of this particular image they said, paraphrasing from memory, "When a third party owns the IP rights, and we use the image under license, we always explicitly credit them. Images we publish without an official credit were either taken by one of our photographers, or are in the public domain." They didn't record the provenance of the public domain images they used. They didn't recognize that this information might be important if their use of an image was ever legally challenged.
• I strongly suspect if we contacted Ms Mackay, or other employees or former employees of Theranos, or its bankruptcy trustees, we would find no recollection as to whether Theranos ever had a policy of having employees who took photos that were added to Theranos official archives to officially sign over their IP rights to Theranos. We might find Theranos didn't record which employees took the photos in its official archives.

  I strongly suspect the same kind of ignorance exists even at much larger organizations.

• IP geeks, like you and I and some other WMF contributors, are among the very few people who care about these issues.

Ordinary people are confused and annoyed by an insistence that they clarify the IP rights of images they release. I am afraid they experience our insistence as a form of harrassment. Shortly after we started covering Omar Khadr in 2005, we had a long serious of acrimonious debates over using two widely republished images of him. One showed him at about ten years old, and one showed him as a teenager.

It looked like we would never get to the bottom of where these images came from, or what conditions, if any, had been placed on their re-use. However a long-time wikipedia contributor married Khadr's oldest sister - the default matriarch of the family, since their actual mother never really recovered from the death of her husband in a firefight. Zaynab, the older sister described pulling a couple of photos from the family album, and making a couple of dozen copies, prior to an event, a hearing, or something similar, where the press would be reporting on Khadr. She handed copies of these photos to reporters, without placing any conditions on their re-use. And newspapers used the images without feeling any obligation to state its provenance.

She seemed to think distributing the images to reporters, without taking their names, or placing any conditions on how they used it, was tantamount to putting the images in the public domain. She seemed quite annoyed at us for our doubts. Geo Swan (talk) 02:34, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Geo Swan, I think I agree with everything you said. I never run into Omar Khadr case but it is interesting. --Jarekt (talk) 03:25, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-27

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• Everyone was logged out. This was because a few users saw the wikis as if they were logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now. [89]
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16:30, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

PD file

With respect to https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AINF3-47_Viscount_Halifax_Artist_Wooding.jpg&type=revision&diff=430008833&oldid=244181177, and a couple of similar on the same OTRS number, this is by definition a public domain file. There is no need to add an OTRS ticket, which implies there is some sort of secret information that readers are unable to verify for themselves. There quite literally, cannot be. Could you look in to these and remove them or publish whatever information has been sent in to OTRS? Thanks --Fæ (talk) 08:31, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Fæ the ticket just said that all those files were revived by some panel with full line long title and that the Copyright Officer confirms that their copyright has expired. In my experience it is not unusual for PD works to have OTRS tickets, either confirming the PD status or clarifying that the digitization does not introduce a new copyright. --Jarekt (talk) 12:47, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

I don't get it.

This is war artist works, by definition crown copyright and expired.

There is no such thing as "new copyright" through scanning either.

These OTRS templates appear unnecessary and confusing, as if there is some other verification of copyright needed that has to remain a secret. There literally cannot be.

If, as you allude, the copyright officer for the National Archives has something to say, they can say it in public, not via confidential emails. All of their work is public and publicly accountable in nature, because it's the National Archives. --Fæ (talk) 14:27, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Fæ I was not handling those tickets or adding those OTRS templates. I agree that information that something is in PD should be handled in more open forum, but we only have one OTRS system which is closed to the public. In 99% of the cases the only secret in OTRS communications are private information of the people we are talking with, like email or phone number in the signature, or a real live name of the person who prefers not to have their name on the web. Copyright related communications require the person to identify themselves but we protect their identity. If we have alternative public OTRS, than I agree that info that some government checked those files and they are in PD in their opinion is useful but not necessary if our own review results in the same conclusion. It could have been handled through more open system but we do not have a second one, so we are stuck with imperfect tools for the job. I think OTRS "permissions" from many other collaboration partners are similar. All they say is that they have reviewed the files and they are PD and if we are lucky they mentions digitization rights, which are most relevant in case of the photographs especially of 3D objects. --Jarekt (talk) 18:01, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Infobox templates

I saw that e.g. {{Art Photo}} with a photographer specified, or {{COAInformation}} with an artist, is nevertheless categorized to the very crowded Category:Files with no machine-readable author. In both templates it is unusual to specify an author with another parameter. May be it will be useful to accept their definitions of valid user IDs as valid author specifications? -- sarang♥사랑 14:51, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Sarang, Category:Files with no machine-readable author "is automatically added to files that the Multimedia Viewer (and related tools) cannot determine the author". I have no idea how Multimedia Viewer determines the author, but whatever they are doing they are not doing it well as it should not be hard to figure out the author in such files. I do not know how to make Multimedia Viewer parse this data correctly. phabricator:T194465 provides some information, but not much. --Jarekt (talk) 01:40, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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• Abstract Wikipedia is a new Wikimedia project. It will collect language-independent information that can be easily read in different languages. It builds on Wikidata. The name is preliminary. You can read more. [92]
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20:18, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Category:Hardy of Dunstall Hall

Hi Jarekt. I hope this finds you well. I'm trying to untangle the above Commons category, but I have no skill in editing the Wikidata template. It is currently attached to the above cat, but it really belongs in the new Category:Sir John Hardy (1809-1888). Please could you kindly sort that out? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 09:46, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Update: The wikidata template has now been automatically emptied of information, but that information was not added to the Category:Sir John Hardy (1809-1888). I have no idea how to put that right. Storye book (talk) 12:45, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Storye book, It looks now correct to me. If not let me know. --Jarekt (talk) 13:26, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you - that was quick! Storye book (talk) 13:30, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Holocaust images

Hi Jarekt, I wonder if you could help point me in the right direction. I notice that you've commented on Holocaust deletion nominations, and you've edited {{PD-Polish}}. I'm not very active on Commons and have no idea how the various templates work.

I've been concerned over the years about people nominating Holocaust images for deletion because we can't comply with one of the Commons copyright tags. These are usually images taken in Poland. The templates don't seem to bear any relation to, e.g. the Hirtle chart, and don't take into account that absolutely no one regards these images as problematic. I'm referring, for example, to images taken inside the camps by unnamed SS officers or prisoners.

This is an interesting article about the issue (in general, not in relation to Commons): Guy Pessach, Michal Shur-Ofry, "Copyright and the Holocaust", Yale Journal of Law & the Humanities, 30(2), September 2018.

I'm therefore wondering whether Commons needs a template that specifically addresses the problem of Holocaust photographs. Does that make any sense, and if so, do you have any idea how I should go about doing it, e.g. who I should speak to, what I should read, etc? Any advice would be most appreciated. All the best, SarahSV ^(talk) 01:00, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

SarahSV Yes I am quite interested in preserving WWII and Holocaust related archival materials on Commons, and I have spent a lot of time over the years improving images from Stroop Report, Warsaw Ghetto, Warsaw Uprising, etc. I also scanned some family materials and created new copyright tags like Template:PD-US-alien property. I am still reading the excellent article you send me, but my preliminary thoughts and observations:

1. big part of the article concentrates on US "fair use" laws. Fair Use is allowed to some degree on English Wikipedia but not on Commons, so those proposals are not relevant to Commons.
2. the doctrine of Implied License might be something we can work with, It would be interesting to read some of the referenced works and find a link to the actual court's decision
3. the doctrine of Copyright Misuse might also be useful but might be of lesser importance and we rarely run into works where Nazi authors or their heirs claim a copyright. much more common case is when we have no information about the copyright.

I will read more and get back to you. --Jarekt (talk) 04:55, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi Jarekt, thanks for the reply and for your interest. I have literally no idea how to approach this, but I'll ping Yann, who may some ideas. Yann, this is just FYI. I may reach out to some of the museums to ask for ideas, and the WMF legal department might be willing to advise.

One thing puzzles me. I regularly see editors refer in deletion discussions to the URAA, but the WMF statements were clear that we should not be doing that. Were the views of the WMF ignored, or am I missing something? I've seen Commons:Review of Precautionary principle. The problem with Holocaust images is that dotting every "i" is impossible. Ideally someone could fly regularly to Warsaw to search through the microfiche files of old newspapers to discover first publication dates, but barring that, we're left with gaps. Thank you for all the work you've done in this area. SarahSV ^(talk) 21:18, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

SarahSV, Whatever we do is going to be a decision of Commons community, so ideas from museums are unlikely to be helpful, also advice from WMF legal, although always welcome and useful is dispensed very sporadically. We are talking about policy which would affect small number of files, and it is unlikely they would invest time to research this issue. The issue you mentioned with URAA and Deletion requests highlights how things work around here: at some point commons community decided that files need to be PD in country of origin (often hard to determine) and in the US. URAA is a law which makes many files which are PD in country of origin still copyrighted in the US. WMF suggests that we should keep such files, but I guess we never voted or changed relevant policies. Flying to Poland might not be helpful since you are not going to easily figure out many of the publication dates. And with US law mostly publication dates older than 95 years are helpful to us. If you have some specific files in mind, I can help researching them. In the past, useful vehicles of publication of holocaust images was {{PD-Polish}}, {{PD-anon-70-EU}}. Yann managed to re-upload File:The last Jew in Vinnitsa, 1941.jpg using {{PD-US-no notice}}. We could began talks on Commons:Village pump/Copyright to see how people feel about new proposed ways of handling Holocaust material. The paper by Pessach and Shur-Ofry mostly deals with 3 cases:

1. Holocaust-victim created material, for which we could claim implied consent
2. Nazi-created material, to which someone claims to have copyrights, which authors suggest is "Copyright Misuse"
3. Fair Use justification for such materials.

Option #3 is not relevant to Commons since we do not accept Fair Use materials. Items #1 and #2 seem very rare, since other than the cases mentioned in the paper I am not aware of anybody actually claiming copyrights on Holocaust material, and very few Holocaust-victim created material survived. In most cases we find some Holocaust related image on the web and we do not know much about it's history. Most likely it is Nazi-created material but the author is unknown and nobody claims the copyright. The implied consent and copyright misuse might be hard to apply to them. Maybe we should start at identifying potential collections to upload and than look decide on copyright approach. --Jarekt (talk) 18:20, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Jarekt, thanks for the information. I was kidding about flying to Warsaw to search through old newspapers. It's just that it often feels as though we're expected to go to those lengths. The images that were recently threatened include:

1. Category:Auschwitz Album; see Auschwitz Album. Example: File:Selection on the ramp at Auschwitz-Birkenau, 1944 (Auschwitz Album) 1b.jpg.These images were taken in Auschwitz by SS officers on behalf of the Auschwitz Erkennungsdienst. The names of the officers are known but not who took which image. See prior nomination: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Selection Birkenau ramp.jpg.
2. Category:Höcker Album; see Höcker Album. Photographs of the SS at a resort near Auschwitz. Example: File:Richard Baer, Josef Mengele, Rudolf Hoess, Auschwitz. Album Höcker.jpg. Taken by unknown SS officers, possibly the same as above. See USHMM page.
3. Prisoner mugshots taken by the same SS officers and prisoners working for the Auschwitz Erkennungsdienst. Example: File:Julian Sawicki.jpg.
4. An album of Heinrich Himmler images taken by the same SS officers. We currently have only one uploaded. For more information, see the file page: File:Heinrich Himmler, IG Farben Auschwitz plant, July 1942.jpeg. And the current deletion nomination: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Heinrich Himmler, IG Farben Auschwitz plant, July 1942.jpeg. The Himmler images were almost certainly entered as evidence during the first Auschwitz trial in Poland in 1947 (the Polish government had them), but I can't show that for certain, and I don't know how to find out whether they were published in Polish newspapers at that time (this is why I joked about flying to Warsaw).

An argument appeared during the nomination above that "creators' rights" apply to these images. This seems to imply that a European court might uphold a copyright claim by descendants of SS officers who took photographs of a criminal enterprise, assuming the descendants could show who the authors were. I have no idea what to make of this. SarahSV ^(talk) 22:52, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Hannolans, this is just FYI. We're discussing what we can do to make Holocaust images less likely to be nominated for deletion. SarahSV ^(talk) 02:01, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks interesting discussion. I have had a lengthy discussion about th Auschwitz-album. Recently we lost the only image that existed of the Judenrampe (Judenrampe (Q3505769)) the platform where the people arrived by train to Auschwitz-Birkenau. Photographer unknown, but it was deleted as it was unclear if and when the image was officially published. I don't understand that that photograph was deleted...... And this is almost always the case: the country of origin is under discussion due to the wartime (was it Poland or Germany, and was nazi-Germany another entity), the author is unknown or won't show up as he/she would be marked as a war criminal, the organisation is forbidden (SS etc) and their rights are unclear, the organisation might be a governmental organisation and fall under certain copyright rules, but that is inclear during wartime, and if a picture was officially published is unclear due to wartime issues. I would argue that we as Wikimedia should have as a policy to use the earliest possible public domain date for documents of war crimes and crimes against humanity, if the author is unknown or not traced after the war and that would be 70 years after creation of the photograph. --Hannolans (talk) 18:26, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

SarahSV, A lot of images you are showing do not have correct license tags, but rather several random tags in hopes one of the is correct. That approach often works for a while but sooner or later some one will challenge it. So I would advice not uploading {{PD-Polish}} unless you actually can prove that the photo was published in Poland in the correct time period. Same with {{PD-anon-70-EU}}, do not use it unless you know of publication more than 70 years ago. Otherwise you invest a lot of time into images which are eventually deleted. Now most of the images you mentioned were made by Nazis, mostly anonymous and often unpublished (or without proof of publication). That is the worse category as they are protected in the US for 120 years (see d:Wikidata:Hirtle chart row 2). This case was only mentioned in paper by Pessach and Shur-Ofry in context of Fair Use, which does not work on Commons. The Copyright Misuse might be harder to argue here since nobody claims copyrights. --Jarekt (talk) 02:30, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

This is why I'd like to try to develop a template for Holocaust images that takes the difficulties into account. For example, it seems to me that if an inmate buries a text or image in the soil of Auschwitz, hoping that someone will find it one day, he has "published" it in the only way he could. Several images released by the Bundesarchiv (where it wasn't clear they had the right to release them) had the same status as other images that we either can't upload or that have been challenged. Sometimes the major museums will say of images that they're in the public domain, but will imply that images that should have the same status are restricted. It's very difficult to operate with such inconsistency. SarahSV ^(talk) 03:53, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

I do not think we will have a template that covers everything and Pessach/Shur-Ofry paper was covering only specific cases. I think Implied license argument applied to materials created and hidden by victims of Holocaust is the strongest. However, I do not know how many items we can find on the web that fall into this category. The paper mentions en:Der Kaiser von Atlantis and en:Ringelblum Archive as examples. That is mostly written text, likely in Yiddish, and the template would not cover translations. Can you see if you can find what materials we could add to Commons if we had Implied license template? --Jarekt (talk) 12:19, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@SlimVirgin: Hi, I closed a few DRs. IMHO {{PD-US-alien property}} is the best answer to any claim of a US copyright for Holocaust images. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:42, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

One think I can help with is that I do have access to large book collection of WWII related books published in Poland with photographs falling under {{PD-Polish}}. I scanned some of them before, like Category:Images from "Kraków pod Rządami Wroga", but mostly I was looking for already digitized images and adding correct sources to justify {{PD-Polish}}. I could scan much more of Holocaust images, although they are often of very poor quality. --Jarekt (talk) 17:28, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Module categories

Hi, you sure can help me. I tried to recategorize Module:Sarang/sandbox to the sandboxes, but failed not knowing how to do it. Then Category:Scribunto modules by status with all its subcats will become obsolete. Thank you -- sarang♥사랑 13:12, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

I added category to Module:Sarang/sandbox. As for Category:Scribunto modules by status category structure, it was based on Module:QuickTest infrastructure. Some kind of early unit testing module, which was never clear to me. Personally I like using Module:UnitTests and lately I was switching to Module:ScribuntoUnit for testing of my modules. I do not know who is using Module:QuickTest. --Jarekt (talk) 13:25, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Pdf

Hi Jarek, could you please have a look? Jankiel Wiernik died in 1972. Thank you. Boston9 (talk) 05:05, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

It seems like the file is already deleted. --Jarekt (talk) 17:09, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-30

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• A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. The mobile main page special casing stopped working 14 July. 60 wikis now have main pages that don't work well on mobile. You can see which ones, how to fix it and how to get help in Phabricator. This is the same problem that was reported in Tech News 2020/24 and 2020/26.

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• There is a problem with the interlanguage links. The interlanguage links are the links that help you find a specific page in a different language. The sorting is broken. The developers are working on a solution. [93]
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• Some users have trouble logging in. This is probably a browser cookie problem. The developers are working on understanding the problem. If you have trouble logging in you can see the details on Phabricator. [95]

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• There is a Printable version link. This will disappear. That is because web browsers today can create a printable version or show how it will look in print anyway. [96]

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• The Starter kit is now available for wiki communities. This page lists technical resources, tools, and recommendations. These are essential to operate a wiki project. This is mostly useful for smaller wikis where the community has limited experience with this. [97]
• The first features of the Desktop Improvements project are available for logged-in users on all wikis. In order to use them, uncheck Use Legacy Vector in your local or global preferences in section Skin preferences. More improvements are planned. Feedback is welcome.
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• The deployment train for MediaWiki has been blocked this week. [98][99]
• Translation Notification Bot was sending the same message multiple times to every translator. This has been fixed. [100]
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Tech News: 2020-32

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• All queries to the Wikidata Query Service failed between 17:50 and 17:59 UTC on Thursday 23 July. Some queries failed during a longer period. [102]
• Interlanguage links were ordered incorrectly for the past few weeks. This problem was also mentioned in Tech News two weeks ago. The problem is now fixed. [103]
• There is a problem with the global preferences for the "Use Legacy Vector" option. Developers are working on fixing it. [104]
• A bug in the Wikibase extension had disabled the "move" and "create" types of protection in the main (Gallery) namespace on Wikimedia Commons. New protections could not be added, and existing protections were not enforced, allowing some page moves and page creations that should not have been possible. This has now been fixed. [105]

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• The video player will change to be simpler and more modern. This week, the current beta feature will become the video player for everyone on most non-Wikipedia wikis. The old player will be removed. [106]
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15:43, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Category:Paintings with structured data missing P6243 property

Hi Jarek, Category:Artworks with structured data missing P6243 property is a bit crowded and also has some issues. Can you update the template code to add Category:Paintings with structured data missing P6243 property when the target item is a painting? Than at least we can start clearing that one out. Multichill (talk) 19:21, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done I added it but lets remove it once they are all done. --Jarekt (talk) 00:55, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Minor tweak: Please only file namespace. Multichill (talk) 08:17, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

I see you fixed that part. Thanks. Only a few files in the category now. Did something break or did someone run a bot? Multichill (talk) 12:56, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Help with licences, please?

HI Jarekt. I have uploaded several images from Flickr, by Newcastle Libraries. That institution states here that all its images are in the public domain. However they have used the wrong licence for this. In the case of pre-1923 images, on Commons I have replaced their PD-1 licence with PD-old-70-1923. However two of their images are post-1923 (File:017675-W.E. Harker Ltd Grainger Street Newcastle upon Tyne Unknown 1967.jpg and File:022218-Masons' Hall Grainger Street Central Newcastle Upon Tyne 1971.jpg). Since they have stated that their images are all in the public domain, can I replace their licence with something permissible, e.g. PD-by-2.0 as is often used on Flickr, or should I ring them and ask them to replace all their licences with something permissible - in which case, what? Or should I give up, accept the deletion and do nothing? I have replied on the deletion discussion pages - but I think that what I have said needs checking as I am not really sure of my ground. Thanks. Storye book (talk) 10:40, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Paintings without artwork template

Hi Jarek, I was playing around with search a bit. It's easy to get plenty of suggestions for paintings that don't have {{Artwork}}, but it does contain a couple of false positives. Any idea what a good approach would be to add the template to the right files? Multichill (talk) 12:58, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

I am not very fluent in using search engine. Some of those files (possibly not a lot) might meet the following criteria: file, with information template, used as image (P18) or image with frame (P7420) statement in an item with instance of (P31) = painting (Q3305213). I can only think of one way of detecting those: Write SPARCL query to capture all P18/P7420 statement and separate SQL query to capture all filenames with artwork/art_photo templates, and then compare the two in a spreadsheet. Each of the 3 steps might be impossible. Can you think of any other ways? --Jarekt (talk) 15:22, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I already processed all files that are used on painting items on Wikidata a long time ago. Some new ones might have showed up.

Take for example File:Peter paul rubens, susanna e i vecchioni, 1605-07.jpg. Clearly a painting. Maybe make a one click conversion gadget we can use in the search results? Multichill (talk) 18:17, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Multichill I come up with some complicated plan which might work:

1. find instance of (P31) = painting (Q3305213) items with a sitelink to commons category and group all those categories into some tracking category
2. make sure all the categories have {{Infobox Wikidata}} showing the reference painting
3. Use SDC tool to add digital representation of (P6243) if missing (SDC shows if it is present or not). Maybe we can also start tracking if image has a frame or not or if it is a painting fragment or not. Not sure how to model that, parhaps depicts (P180)=picture frame (Q860792) and depicts (P180)="fragment of larger work".
4. We should add a tracking category to {{Information}} template (not the module) to detect digital representation of (P6243) to streamline replacement of {{Information}} with Artwork/Art_photo templates
5. Files with {{Information}} template and P6243 could be much more easily processed with "subst:" operations to add either Art_Photo (if it is a CC photograph by commons user for example) or Artwork (if the source is the internet)

That would be one approach to improve metadata of a lot of paintings on commons. --Jarekt (talk) 20:26, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

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Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry. If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

• File:Iwo Jima Memorial - close.jpg

Binksternet (talk) 23:17, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Improve Template:SDC statement has value to check all values

Hi Jarek, {{SDC statement has value}} only seems to check the first value, not all. This makes File:Covid-19 San Salvatore 09.jpg, which is both a featured picture and a quality image, end up in Category:Quality images with different SDC Commons quality assessment. Can you have a look? Multichill (talk) 13:20, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@Multichill: Should be Fixed now. Please check if I got it right. --Jarekt (talk) 02:30, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm not very good at writing LUA, but I can read this. That logic looks good. I only wonder if entity:getBestStatements is going to bite us when people use ranks. Thanks for fixing! Multichill (talk) 18:13, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

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Donald Trump: Deplorables and Proud https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Donald_Trump_-_Deplorables_and_Proud!.jpg

Hello Jerekt, You graciously offered to answer any questions I have when you commented on my photo Donald Trump: Deplorables and Proud. Please check the additional request for deletion and further comments by Ellen Belz. Again, her comments do not make sense to me. What doll? What selfie? The photo was taken with my iPhone. I handed it to someone and asked them to take it for me. I own the photo. Please explain. Additionally, Ellen Belz has put comments on each of the myriad of photos that she once again has nominated for deletion. I see her new comments are as follow: Exclam icon.svg Keep tidy ask.svg This is what Ellen Belz writes: This media file has been nominated for deletion since 22 August 2020. To discuss it, please visit the nomination page. Do not delete this tag until the deletion nomination is closed. Reason for the nomination: Uploader depicted, not selfie. Notice uploader performing. I am confused. The photos over the years were taken with my own camera(s)and iPhone(s). They are not selfies. I thank you for your view and anticipate your comments here or on the Village Pump. Thanks for your help user:TwinofSedona

Hello TwinofSedona, There is a lot to explain and I apologize ahead of time for being long winded and if some of my explanations might not be clear. Like many groups, people on Commons developed a lingo which might be hard to understand to others.

• When you upload a photo you click on a option where you state that you personally took the photo, such photos show up with {{own}} or {{own photo}} in the source field which show up as "Own work" or "Self-photographed".
• What Ellen is saying is that she is doubting your claim that you took the photo, and legally speaking the copyrights belong to the person that clicked the button that took the photo. As a result She claims that since you do not own the copyrights, you can not release the photo under CC license. It is a bit like a domino effect here. See also User_talk:TwinofSedona#own_work
• Of course there are many cases where the photographer can be in the photo: selfie sticks, remote control, timer, etc. and there are cases where someone else than the person pressing the button can have most of the creative input required to set up a photograph. But those are all exceptions from a general rule that you can not claim photo as "own work" if you are in it.
• The community on commons aim to provide free licensed photographs, which is a hard task to do since majority of the photographs on the internet do not have clearly stated copyrights and have to be assumed as copyrighted. We are also self-policing, which is done by challenging other people claims through process of deletion requests (DR). Anybody can click a button to initiate deletion request, and although it might feel personal, most just see it as a way to keep our free-licensed collection of photographs and other files labeled correctly. Starting a DR, adds a warning to a file and on your talk page that something does not meet our policies and file needs to be deleted.
• In your case, your files were first challenged based on com:scope policy (see COM:EDUSE) reasoning that all those photographs are not "realistically useful for an educational purpose", see Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by TwinsofSedona
• in Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by TwinofSedona the reasoning was that if you are in the photo than you are not the photographer and have no rights to release the photo. In case you are still in contact with the photographer you can ask them to send permission for that photo to OTRS as you did with your javelinas photo.
• Your talk page got so many DRs that the website can not render all the warnings correctly resulting in the latter DR not being fully displayed.

I am sorry this is happening to you, but Ellen has a full right to question your claim that you are the photographer who took those photographs. Let me know if some of my explanations are not clear. --Jarekt (talk) 03:18, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

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17:58, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

File:Civil War Costumes - Fort Verde State Historic Park, Camp Verde, Arizona - History of the Soldier - with Terrie Frankel.jpg

Hi Jarekt - You are correct regarding this photo. I had spoken at this History of the Soldier event in Camp Verde (I often speak at events about the USO), where various times in military history are explained through makeshift encampments... Anyway, afterwards a group photo was taken of some of the participants, including me. I grabbed my cell phone and handed it to someone and asked them to take a photo of the group that was about to pose. You see in the photo we are all looking at the main person taking the photo. This is why my own photo was taken from this side angle.... NOTE: Over the years I always had cameras with me in Hollywood, from disposable cameras, to a Polaroid camera, to whatever cameras I had at the time, and would ask permission of a star to take their photo, hand my camera (later cell phone) to someone and request that they take the photo for me. In those days no one knew what a 'selfie' was! Thank you for your comments and approving this photo. --TwinofSedona (talk) 10:56, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, admin. Can you please delete this page. Thanks a lot. --E4024 (talk) 02:13, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

E4024, I do not see why we should. --Jarekt (talk) 02:25, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Expert help needed

Hi Jarek, again I am hoping that you can solve a problem, I descried it at Template_talk:Created_with#Expert_help_needed. -- sarang♥사랑 13:55, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

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Category:Pages with local camera coordinates and missing SDC coordinates

Hi Jarekt, Category:Pages with local camera coordinates and missing SDC coordinates has gotten quite large. Maybe you can split it up? I would split it up between {{Location}} and {{Object location}}. Besides that you should split it up between decimal formatted and other formatting. We're pretty good at parsing the decimal formatting, but the other formatting still needs some attention. Also if the structured data is imported, can you add a check if the heading is imported? I'm pretty sure I missed that in some cases. Thanks! Multichill (talk) 20:06, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Multichill that category is added only by {{Location}} template as {{Object location}} uses Category:Pages with local object coordinates and missing SDC coordinates. The best way to process those would be to ignore inputs to the template and extract info based on output url to geohack as you can see in https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/41693. The template allows 3 or 4 input formats, not just decimal and DMS. The heading can be in several formats as well. My pipeline is well suited for edits based on database queries. I am also done with adding OTRS properties and could start working on coordinates or licenses, however I am handicapped by phabricator:T247433 bug which makes, my bot edits not being marked as bot's and pissing off a lot of people. It is either bug in QuickStatements or MediaWiki which only shows up in batch asynchronous mode edits by that tool. I am running out of ideas on how to get it fixed. --Jarekt (talk) 20:43, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Oh right, even more files to process. As for output, api is quite nice, but the heading is not part of it I think.

We don't want to do a gazillion edits to each file and we do want each edit to be marked as a bot edit (so use a real bot, not QuickStatements). I probably need to spend a bit more time on being able to parse most cases so at least the bulk gets done in one edit. Multichill (talk) 20:51, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

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Oznaczenie zabytku rejestrowanego blokuje wyświetlanie opisu zdjęcia w przeglądarce - kontynuacja

Bardzo dziękuję za pomoc i uwagi w poprzedniej korespondencji. Prowizorycznie rozwiązałam mój problem z podpisami zdjęć, ale okazuje się on mieć bardziej powszechny charakter, choć nie wiem, czy do tej pory ktoś to zgłaszał. Dlatego zajmę Ci jeszcze trochę czasu, żeby tym razem dokładnie i jasno przedstawić, o co mi chodzi. Ten post jest długi... Bo chyba niezupełnie dobrze mnie zrozumiałeś ostatnim razem. Otóż nie chodziło mi o to, że numer zabytku się nie wyświetla (bo się nie wyświetla u mnie nadal, ale może to sprawka Firefoksa), ale że nie wyświetla się ten OPIS w języku polskim, który podaje CO zdjęcie przedstawia, a który ja podaję. Bardzo Cię proszę, przeanalizuj spokojnie poniższe przykłady i różnice między nimi, gdyż to wydaje mi się ważne, choć przykłady są może banalne. Prawdą jest, że brak mi doświadczenia z językami używanymi na stronach internetowych, ale przecież wiem, jaki rezultat chciałabym dzięki nim uzyskać. W pewnym sensie reprezentuję tych wszystkich autorów zdjęć, którzy umieścili przy swoich pracach informację o zabytku i przez to ich zdjęcia w przeglądarce pozbawione są właściwego (jak sądzę) opisu.

Nie chcę, żeby mi się tu jakieś funkcje podmieniały, więc w przykładach wstawiam okrągłe nawiasy zamiast podwójnych klamrowych.

Dla fikcyjnego zdjęcia opisanego następująco:

1. OPIS TYLKO PO POLSKU

1a. Bez szablonu zabytku:

description: (pl|1=Dziedziniec zamkowy)

niezalogowany użytkownik w przeglądarce ustawionej na język polski widzi:

Dziedziniec zamkowy

i w przeglądarce ustawionej na język angielski widzi tak samo:

Dziedziniec zamkowy

Pod pojęciem "widzi w przeglądarce" rozumiem taką sytuację, gdy niezalogowany użytkownik wchodzi na stronę kategorii, np. Category:Kalwaria Zebrzydowska Monastery i klika na miniaturkę zdjęcia, co powoduje wyświetlenie dużego zdjęcia na czarnym tle z możliwością przewijania w tył i w przód, i z umieszczonym na dole opisem zdjęcia. Ten właśnie opis podaję w przykładach jako to, co widzi on "w przeglądarce".

1b. Z szablonem zabytku:

description: (pl|1=Dziedziniec zamkowy)(Zabytek nieruchomy|0001)

niezalogowany użytkownik w przeglądarce ustawionej na język polski widzi:

Ta fotografia przedstawia zabytek wpisany...itd. pod numerem ID 0001

a w przeglądarce ustawionej na język angielski widzi:

This is a photo of the monument...etc. by the ID 0001

Zauważ, że autor dołączył opis obiektu, lecz jest on teraz ignorowany w przeglądarce.

2. OPIS W DWÓCH JĘZYKACH, jedna deklaracja zabytku.

2a. Przy składni:

description: (pl|1= Dziedziniec zamkowy) (Zabytek nieruchomy|0001) (en|1= Castle court)

niezalogowany użytkownik w przeglądarce ustawionej na język polski widzi:

Ta fotografia przedstawia zabytek wpisany...itd. pod numerem ID 0001

a w przeglądarce ustawionej na język angielski widzi:

Castle court

2b. Przy składni:

description: (pl|1= Dziedziniec zamkowy)(en|1= Castle court)(Zabytek nieruchomy|0001)

niezalogowany użytkownik w przeglądarce ustawionej na język polski widzi:

Dziedziniec zamkowy

a w przeglądarce ustawionej na język angielski widzi:

This is a photo of the monument...etc. by the ID 0001

2c. Przy składni:

description: (Zabytek nieruchomy|0001) (pl|1= Dziedziniec zamkowy)(en|1= Castle court)

niezalogowany użytkownik w przeglądarce ustawionej na język polski widzi:

Dziedziniec zamkowy

a w przeglądarce ustawionej na język angielski widzi:

Castle court

Teraz przeglądarka nie podaje informacji o zabytku.

Wnioski moje są takie: 1. Język, w jakim jest wyświetlania informacja o zabytku zależy od ustawienia przeglądarki, a nie od deklaracji języków w szablonie opisu (co wynika z przykładu 1b). 2. Umieszczenie szablonu zabytku sprawia, że z przeglądarki znika opis w języku deklarowanym w poprzedzającym go szablonie i zostaje zastąpiony treścią szablonu zabytku. 3. Przeglądarka ignoruje opis zabytku, który nie jest poprzedzony jakąś deklaracją języka (pl, en) – przykład 2c.

Osobiście uważam, że informacja pochodząca z opisu autora powinna mieć priorytet nad dołączaną informacją o numerze w rejestrze zabytków, ponieważ ma większe znaczenie poznawcze – tę „wartość edukacyjną”, o jaką się Wikimedia upomina. Dlatego moje prowizoryczne rozwiązanie problemu polega na zastosowaniu składni z ostatniego przykładu (2c – najpierw szablon zabytku, potem szablony opisu w deklarowanych językach). Mam nadzieję, że tak opisane zdjęcie spełnia warunki konkursu, gdyż zawiera w opisie informację o zabytku, ale gdyby nawet nie spełniało, to pozostanę przy tym sposobie póki nie znajdę lepszego.

Sądzę, że użytkownik korzystający z przeglądarki odniesie o wiele większą korzyść z opisu przygotowanego przez autora zdjęcia niż z wiadomości, że jest to zabytek o jakimś numerze identyfikacyjnym, a gdy ktoś poprosi o więcej szczegółów/more details, to się dowie o numerze w rejestrze zabytków... co skądinąd chyba rzadko interesuje przeciętnego użytkownika.

Ale ciekawa jestem, jak skłonić tego krasnoludka, który realizuje polecenia zawarte w opisie, żeby wyświetlał zarówno opis autora, jak treść informacji o zabytku. Czyli żeby informacja w przeglądarce wyglądała tak:

Dziedziniec zamkowy

Ta fotografia przedstawia zabytek wpisany ...itd. pod numerem ID 0001

Może komuś znającemu się na rzeczy zajęłoby to kilka minut, żeby poprawić... Może jakieś zagnieżdżone szablony by pomogły? Jestem zbyt zielona, żeby mocniej eksperymentować. A może jest to „nienaprawialne”???

A w ogóle to tak sobie myślę, że sam formularz zgłaszania zdjęć w Wiki Lubi Zabytki powinien być poprawiony, żeby nie generował tysięcy zdjęć widocznych w przeglądarce z podpisami „Ta fotografia przedstawia zabytek...” Wystarczyłoby może zmienić kolejność wstawiania elementów opisu – czyli globalnie zastosować moje prowizoryczne rozwiązanie... Ale z pewnością można wymyślić jakiś bardziej elegancki sposób.

Mam nadzieję, że mój punkt widzenia nie jest zupełnie odosobniony... i że moje uwagi spotkają się ze zrozumieniem. W każdym razie jeszcze raz dziękuję za dotychczasowy kontakt i pomoc. Podaję jeszcze linki do dwóch plików, jeden jest mój, już opisany według schematu 3c, drugi (sąsiedni w kategorii) jest innej użytkowniczki opisany tak, jak wychodzi przy zastosowaniu formularza zgłoszeniowego "Wiki Lubi Zabytki", choć ten jest z 2014 roku.

• File:Kalwaria Zebrzydowska - Kapliczka św. Piotra i Pawła 01GP 01.jpg
• File:Kalwaria Zebrzydowska - Kaplica Pożegnanie Chrystusa, wnętrze AL01.jpg

Aha, wstawiły się jako informacje o pliku :) Znowu zaskoczenie... Pozdrawiam serdecznie

Pliszka (talk) 17:02, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Pliszka, ja bardzo rzadko eksperymentuje ze stronami na Commons jako niezalogowany użytkownik, ale spróbowałem, i informacja w mojej przeglądarce nie zgadza się z twoim opisem. Zrobiłem zdjęcie informacji pliku File:Kalwaria Zebrzydowska - Kapliczka św. Piotra i Pawła 01GP 01.jpg i wrzuciłem je do https://ibb.co/xjrMQC7. Zobaczysz tam informacje w składni "(pl|1= Dziedziniec zamkowy) (Zabytek nieruchomy|0001) (en|1= Castle court)" gdzie wszystkie 3 szablony są widoczne niezależnie od języka. Opisy się nie zmieniaj a szablon {{Zabytek nieruchomy}} zmienia język w zależności od wyboru języka. Ta strona tak ma wyglądając i nie rozumiem dlaczego ty widzisz coś innego. --Jarekt (talk) 02:35, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Jarekt, mój opis dotyczy czegoś takiego: https://ibb.co/9rsy5pB , https://ibb.co/vhH9bGQ Mam nadzieję, że to się wyświetli, choć nie mam konta na ImgBB, i wtedy wreszcie się zrozumiemy. Zdjęcie z kapliczką-bydynkiem jest zgłoszone przez formularz Wiki Lubi Zabytki bez korekty składni, moje zdjęcie z kapliczką-kolumną też jest zgłoszone przez ten formularz, ale składnia "description" została poprawiona. Dlatego podpis u autorki zdjęcia z kapliczką-budynkiem wyświetla się jako: Ta fotografia przedstawia zabytek wpisany... itd. choć autorka sama podpisała je (w description na białej stronie zdjęcia): "Polski: Kalwaria Zebrzydowska, kaplica Pożegnanie Chrystusa Wniebowzięcie Matki Boskiej II, 1793-1833". Natomiast podpis na moim zdjęciu z kapliczką-kolumną nie podaje informacji o zabytku, ale wyświetla mój opis zdjęcia, i myślę, że tak jest znacznie lepiej.

Taki widok przeglądarki otrzymuje się, gdy "niezalogowany użytkownik wchodzi na stronę kategorii, np. Category:Kalwaria Zebrzydowska Monastery i klika na miniaturkę zdjęcia, co powoduje wyświetlenie dużego zdjęcia na czarnym tle z możliwością przewijania w tył i w przód, i z umieszczonym na dole opisem zdjęcia" - jak to napisałam wyżej. Być może po wylogowaniu się wszedłeś na stronę zdjęcia przez link i dlatego pokazało Ci od razu pełną stronę informacyjną. Ale zwykły śmiertelnik, który dopiero chce obejrzeć, co jest do dyspozycji w WikiMedia prawdopodobnie wchodzi tak, jak zwykle ja: przez stronę kategorii, klikając na obrazek z galerii, a wtedy otwiera się ta właśnie szybka przeglądarka zdjęć na czarnym tle, która powinna dać szybką orientację w tym, co i w jaki sposób zdjęcie przedstawia. Jeśli nie jest zainteresowany, może od razu przejść do następnego nie wyświetlając szczegółów, a jeśli zdjęcie go zainteresuje, może wyświetlić tę białą stronę z pełną informacją, którą Ty sfotografowałeś, po kliknięciu Więcej szczegółów/More details. I dlatego dobrze by było, aby w widoku szybkiej przeglądarki, tej na czarnym tle, wyświetlała się informacja (opis) sporządzona przez autora, a nie automatyczna informacja o zabytku, nawet gdyby numer się wyświetlał. Tymczasem dla zdjęć zgłoszonych przez polską stronę konkursu Wiki Lubi Zabytki wyświetla się właśnie ta automatyczna informacja, a jest to spowodowane konfiguracją poleceń (szablonów) w "description". Jest to dość irytujące, jeśli pod wieloma zdjęciami czyta się ten sam podpis, a nie ma podstawowej informacji o tym, co zdjęcie przedstawia. A zauważyłam, że tak właśnie się teraz dzieje na stronach (kategoriach) z zabytkami. Wiele osób przesyła swe fotografie w ramach konkursu. I niektóre (czyli pewnie te przesłane poza konkursem) maja opisy autorskie, a inne opis automatyczny z szablonu zabytku - i to w mojej przeglądarce jednakowy dla wszystkich, co znacznie obniża atrakcyjność tych zdjęć, a może nawet całych galerii. I o to mi cały czas chodzi. Ja to sobie prowizorycznie rozwiązałam, bo jestem uparta, i zastosuję to na wszystkich moich zdjęciach, ale dlaczego nie pomóc innym osobom, by lepiej się ich zdjęcia oglądało? To tyle jako wyjaśnienie. Nie potrafię już lepiej przedstawić tego problemu. Ale dziękuję za to, że spróbowałeś i za odpowiedź, i za to, że wiele się dzięki Tobie nauczyłam "przy okazji". Pozdrowienia. Pliszka (talk) 04:39, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Pliszka, Powoli zaczynam rozumieć o czym mowa. Rzeczywiste jeśli pójdę do Category:Chapels in Kalwaria Zebrzydowska i stamtąd przejdę na File:Kalwaria Zebrzydowska - Kapliczka św. Piotra i Pawła 01GP 01.jpg to rzeczywiste widzę to co ty sfotografowałaś. Ta przeglądarka to tkz. Media Viewer która owszem pokazuje fotografie ale nigdy nie była w stanie pokazywać opisów. Ta cześć przeglądarki nie pracuje i nikt nie oczekuje ze będzie kiedykolwiek pracować. Wszyscy zazwyczaj szybko ją wyłączają by iść bezpośrednio od kategorii do opisu zdjęcia i nie musieć klikać "Więcej szczegółów"/"More details". By ja wyłączyć kliknij and koło zębate. --Jarekt (talk) 19:25, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Jarekt, dzięki, teraz ja też zaczynam więcej rozumieć. Dla mnie ta część przeglądarki zawsze była użyteczna :) pokazuje podstawowe elementy opisu, reaguje na język i nawet teraz przy tym szablonie zabytku udało mi się ją skłonić do jakiego-takiego działania zgodnie z moimi oczekiwaniami, co właśnie zawierał ten długi szereg przykładów. Zatem gdyby była bardziej popularna, może moja sugestia co do konfiguracji współpracującego z nią "description" wpisującego się z formularza zgłoszenia do Wiki Lubi Zabytki (nr zabytku, język, opcjonalne języki) okazałoby się warta uwagi, ale skoro mówisz, że prawie nikt z niej nie korzysta i zostawiono ją samą sobie, to nie ma o co rozdzierać szat... Dzięki za wszystkie wyjaśnienia i za cierpliwość, bo już się zaczynałam obawiać, że po moim kolejnym wpisie odeślesz mi parę niecenzuralnych krzaczków :) na szczęście tego nie zrobiłeś... Pozdrowienia.

Pliszka (talk) 20:43, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Template:OTRS model release

Template:OTRS model release has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this template, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

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16:18, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Problemy po przeniesieniu pliku do innej kategorii

Proszę o radę, jeśli to możliwe. Nie umiałam znaleźć odpowiedzi pomocnej dla mnie na forum dyskusyjnym. Pisałam niedawno do Ciebie na tej stronie, ale wtedy moja nazwa użytkownika była: Eriassim, a podpis Pliszka. Nadal jestem tu nowicjuszką, ale coś już umiem zrobić. Stopniowo przesyłam pliki związane z kategorią „Chapels in Kalwaria Zebrzydowska” i jej podkategoriami do Wiki Lubi Zabytki. Przy okazji trochę porządkuję tę kategorię, bo są tam pliki błędnie przypisane, czasem też błędnie opisane. Ostatnio przeniosłam dwa pliki użytkownika Januszk57 z kategorii „Chapel of the Assumption of Saint Mary (II) in Kalwaria Zebrzydowska” do kategorii „Chapel of St. Raphael in Kalwaria Zebrzydowska”, poprawiłam opis i chciałam zrobić też porządek w odwołaniach do tego zdjęcia, np. usunęłam je z listy zabytków na Wikipedii, ponieważ nie przedstawia tego obiektu, przy którym było wpisane (błąd identyfikacji). Zamieniłam je na zdjęcie wykonane przeze mnie.

Pierwsze pytanie dotyczy tego, czy powinnam o tym powiadomić autora zdjęcia, a jeśli tak, to jak to zrobić technicznie? Otworzyłam stronę tego użytkownika, ale nie domyśliłam się, jak się z nim skontaktować. Czy mogę po prostu wpisać notatkę edytując jego stronę? Wysłać mu maila? Czy w ogóle się nie odzywać? Autor od dawna ma konto na Wikimedia Commons i przesyłał wiele plików.

Drugie pytanie dotyczy tego, że jego zdjęcie nadal się wyświetla w infobox (chyba tak się to nazywa) z boku przy otwarciu kategorii „Chapel of the Assumption of Saint Mary (II) in Kalwaria Zebrzydowska” w której już go nie ma. Jak zrobić, żeby przestało się tam wyświetlać? Przy samym zdjęciu jest taka informacja: Wykorzystanie na www.wikidata.org, Q30215906. Chodzi o plik:

• File: 708349 pow wadowicki Kalwaria Zebrzydowska Bernardynska 46 kap wniebowziecia 04.JPG

Mój plik przedstawiający właściwy obiekt to:

• File:Kalwaria Zebrzydowska – Kaplice-07002GP.jpg

Piszę do Ciebie nadal po polsku, ponieważ w dziedzinie informatyki nie jestem mocna, więc pisanie po angielsku o tym, czego nie rozumiem po polsku... no, chyba mijałoby się z celem. So I would appreciate your answering in Polish :) Pozdrowienia. Pliszka (talk) 17:36, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Odpowiedz na pierwsze pytanie: Większość autorów zdjęć jeśli chcą wiedzieć co się dzieje z ich zdjęciami to dodają je do listy stron obserwowanych (ang. watchlist), wiec zazwyczaj nie potrzeba ich informować, bo wiedzą co się zmieniło. Jeśli chcesz się z kimkolwiek komunikować to albo możesz napisać na ich "talkpage" (np. user talk:Eriassim) albo możesz użyć szablonu {{ping|Eriassim}} (@Eriassim: ) by ich poinformować że o nich mowa. Maile są rzadko używane, zazwyczaj tylko do tajnej komunikacji.

Co do drugiego pytania. Infoboxy w kategoriach (pionowe po prawej stronie) są dodawane przez szablon {{Wikidata Infobox}}, który wybiera informacje z Wikidata. Np plik w Category:Chapel of the Assumption of Saint Mary (II) in Kalwaria Zebrzydowska można zmienić, przez zmianę pliku w d:Q30215906#P18. Spróbuj.

Co do mojego pisania po polsku czy angielsku, to czasami zapominam w jakim języku z kim rozmawiam. Na tematy techniczne to dużo łatwiej mi się wysłowić po angielsku, bo od lat 80-dziesiątych mieszkam w Stanach i rzadko mam okazje pisać czy mówić po polsku. --Jarekt (talk) 01:46, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Jarekt Dzięki! Już zrobione :) Na razie zrobiłam edycję jako użytkownik niezalogowany, nie mam konta na Wikidata. Czy można moje obecne konto na Wikimedia Commons rozszerzyć jakoś na inne projekty Wiki? Bo gdy chciałam użyć "Create account" to przy mojej nazwie użytkownika wyświetliło się, że jest zajęta, a wątpię, żeby ktoś inny używał nazwy "Pliszka-GP". Więc pewnie te projekty jakoś się łączą... Gdybyś wolał napisać po angielsku, to tak prostą rzecz chyba bym zrozumiała :) Pozdrowienia. Pliszka (talk) 04:39, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Pliszka Nazwa użytkownika i hasło są te same na wszystkich projektach. Wiec masz już konto na wikidata. --Jarekt (talk) 01:26, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Jarekt Dzięki za wyjaśnienie. To znaczy, że mogę się po prostu zalogować. Wobec tego popróbuję jakoś sobie radzić dalej. Wiesz, wiele moich pytań wynika z tego, że gdy zobaczyłam, jak kategoria Kalwaria Zebrzydowska Monastery jest zorganizowana, to sobie pomyślałam, że przed wrzuceniem plików dobrze byłoby tam zrobić trochę porządku... Ale wszystko było dla mnie nowe. Mam nadzieję, że mimo to zrobiłam porządku więcej, niż zamieszania z pytaniami. Serdeczne dzięki za pomoc i moralne wsparcie :) Pozdrowienia Pliszka (talk) 19:03, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

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• The number of times you can do something in a period of time on wiki is limited. This could be the number of edits per minute or the number of users you email in a day. Some users are not affected by all limits because of their user rights. They could soon see the limit even if it does not affect them. [128]
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21:25, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

File:Everest Expedition 1965 stamp of India.jpg

Hi Jarekt. Please would you kindly check that the above image is suitably free for DYK use? The filepage has a template requirement that an administrator check this. (I am currently reviewing a DYK momination template which is using this image). Thank you. Storye book (talk) 15:30, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for sorting this. Storye book (talk) 16:36, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

no problem --Jarekt (talk) 16:39, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Commons - Media Sarch, new feedback round

Greetings,

I'm following up on a message from earlier in the year about the prototype development for Special:MediaSearch. Based on community feedback, the Structured Data team has developed some new features for Special:MediaSearch and are seeking another round of comments and discussions about the tool. Commons:Structured_data/Media_search is updated with details about the new features plus some other development information, and feedback is welcome on Commons talk:Structured_data/Media_search. Media Search works in any language, so the team would especially appreciate input around support for languages other than English. I look forward to reading about what you think. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:05, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

PD-Art combined with PD-US-unpublished

Combining {{PD-Art}} with {{PD-US-unpublished}} like {{PD-Art|PD-US-unpublished}} does not yield the ideal result. See for example a good combo (of {{PD-Art}} and {{PD-old-100-expired}}) at File:Matthew Pratt - Mrs. Samuel Powel PAFA1912.12.jpg and compare that to the bad combo at File:Elizabeth Willing (c. 1760).jpg.

Can you resolve this? Or am I doing something wrong? Thank you! --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 03:03, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Coffeeandcrumbs: It should be Fixed now. --Jarekt (talk) 03:37, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 03:48, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Category:Pages with local camera heading and missing SDC heading and heading:0

Hi Jarek, a lot of files ended up in Category:Pages with local camera heading and missing SDC heading because the heading is set to zero. I'm skipping those at the moment because zero and null seem to be mixed. Maybe you can break out these cases in another category so it's easier to clean out Category:Pages with local camera heading and missing SDC heading? Multichill (talk) 19:38, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I did noticed at some point that a lot of my photos point north. I guess since I mile having sun at my back during noon time photos. When I was manually adding locations and heading a lot of them ended up with heading:0. Some of those might be correct. But if it helps I can split them. --Jarekt (talk) 02:28, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

 Done @Multichill: --Jarekt (talk) 04:13, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

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• Admins can now see links to diffs of deleted revisions on Special:AbuseLog. This uses the interface of Special:Undelete. [129]
• Editors are automatically added to some user groups. For example editors are added to autoconfirmed users when they have edited enough times and long enough. Abuse filters can hinder users from automatically getting user rights for a period of time. They can also remove rights user have. Wikis can now ask to change how long this period of time is for their wiki in Phabricator. It is currently five days. [130]

Problems

• Last year some abuse filters stopped working because of a new change. If they tried to use variables that were unavailable for that action they would fail. This has now been fixed. [131]

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 September. It will be on all wikis from 1 October (calendar).

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21:23, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Application of US federal law to Commons materials

Hi, Jarek. I've noticed that through your work a number of inappropriately labelled images, mostly from the Nude Depictions of Computer Science category, have had their results moved from first or second to fourth or lower. However, returning images that reasonable people would consider pornographic (eg. images requiring an 18 years or older declaration on Flickr) at any ranking on an otherwise neutral search term appears to be in violation of US federal laws 18 U.S.C. § 2252B and 18 U.S.C. § 2252C. There is no clear policy on Commons regarding the application of US federal law. Are materials on Commons required to conform to US federal laws? Or is the application of these laws limited to child pornography and broadly interpreted copyright law? Interesting questions! - Seazzy (talk) 19:54, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Seazzy As I recall my edits in Nude Depictions of Computer Science category, were part of larger collaboration at one of the conferences where we were trying to reduce "surprise" effect where common searches for computer science terms resulted in return of pornographic images, following w:en:Principle of least astonishment. Commons does have a policy stating that Commons is not censored mirroring similar policy on Wikidata and any minor might run into legally inappropriate material on Wikipedia, Commons or any other Wikimedia project with a notable exception of simple wikipedia which is meant for children, but even this project has an illustrated article about w:simple:Sexual_intercourse. We do have Commons:Child protection (proposed) policy but it is about protecting children from adults trying to meet them. You might also be interested in Commons:Nudity policy and Template:2257, but none of them really address US federal laws 18 U.S.C. § 2252B and 18 U.S.C. § 2252C. I think that thinking is that it should not be a surprise for anybody to find description or depiction of sexual content in encyclopedia, or anatomy books like Category:Gray's Anatomy. --Jarekt (talk) 21:03, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. The legal issue is not the presence of sexual imagery on Commons, or one of accessing sexual imagery through search terms like "vagina" or "anallingus". It is an issue of intentionally misleading labeling resulting in sexual images appearing in search results for sexually unrelated terms. As it turns out, the principle of least surprise is law in the United States. In the cases of these images, the violation is clear.

Searches for "clover emoji" or "fruit ninja" return sexually explicit imagery. At the same time, users cannot access these images using terms that would bring them to sexual imagery that they desired. For example, this image is the first result for the term "Fruit Ninja". It contains the words "nude" and "naked" in its descriptive data and "vulva" in its depicts, but does not contain the words "pussy", "brunette", "boobs", "tits", "bald", "shaven", or "smooth", as labelled by the original author. It is, however, the redirect from the filename "Fruit Ninja.jpg", and takes pains to describe the game "Fruit Ninja" in its description. This file is the third search result for "clover emoji". It does contain the terms "vulva", "anus" and "buttocks" in depicts. Otherwise, it is described exclusively with technical descriptions of the clover emoji, and does not contain the words "nude", "naked", "ass", "butt", "pussy", "legs", "croatch" (sic), "closeup", "stocking", "whisky", "blonde", "drunk", "alcohol", or "irishyoga", as labelled by the original author. This image is also categorized using the term "Unicode", increasing its visibility for searches unrelated to sexual images.

In this case, the application of US federal law - required for materials hosted on Wikipedia's US-based servers as described under Commons censorship policy - does not mean deleting these images. It does require removing all data that shows these images in search results for non-sexually related terms. Original metadata from the content creator that does relates to sexual subjects would be beneficial to increase search visibility for terms like "blonde pussy" or "brunette ass". Unfortunately, I have been unable to contribute tags like these, as there are many users who would not like to see the descriptions changed - again, in violation of US law. In any case, as there are clear legal reasons for removing misleading data from these images, is it still acceptable to maintain misleading labels and metadata? -Seazzy (talk) 17:54, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Seazzy, I am for properly labeling images so there is no ambiguity on what you get. I wonder is instead of working on improving labels a better solution would be a search engine algorithms which are aware (based on your search) of your intentions and return "mature audience" images only when someone specifically search for them. This would require the search engine to have binary label porn/not-porn for each image and return porn results only when asked for. As I recall we had those discussions about a decade ago with a photo of someone masturbating with a toothbrush which was included in a category for toothbrushes. There was a big discussion about it which resulted in bizarre categories like Category:Nude or partially nude people with toothbrushes‎ and Category:Nude or partially nude people with objects. That was an early (2011) effort to avoiding surprises in common non-pornographic categories. --Jarekt (talk) 02:18, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

That's an interesting idea, but a new algorithm is impractical in these circumstances and unlikely to occur without major cash investment and significant time - probably years - where the WMF (and likely some Commons users) would knowingly be in violation of the law and subject to investigation and prosecution. In this case, changes to the Flickr Batch Uploader could be a simpler solution for a large number of problematic images. This tool could be updated to automatically block all images that come from galleries requiring 18+ confirmation from appearing in search results - with the exception of safe words such as "pussy", "ass", "anal", "fuck", "horny", etc. This could be accomplished with a simple update. As Flickr is based in the US it is safe to assume that material contained within 18+ galleries would be considered subject to these specific laws. It would also require a crawler to check previously uploaded images, but this task could be easily accomplished with basic code. More dauntingly, there is at least one user involved in the batch uploader project who will likely work hard to prevent this change.

Another option is to ban or limit the right of users who maintain misleading metadata on sexually explicit images. While this will be almost impossible considering the current community, the fact that these users are actively violating US law should make management of their actions mandatory. At the very least, users who misleadingly label images should be banned from creating redirects, modifying filenames, acting as admins or moderators, or contributing descriptive data. Again, this is probably not going to happen considering the current culture on Commons. -Seazzy (talk) 16:50, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Commons is proudly much more of a wild-west than English wikipedia, and one typically can do anything that is not against one of Commons policiees. And Commons have very few policies. However I belive we do have policy that images have to be legal in the US and I agree that some of the images with misleading descriptions seem to violate 18 U.S.C. § 2252C. Maybe we should raise this issue at Commons:Village pump. --Jarekt (talk) 04:14, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

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Recent changes

• There is a new tool where you can see which home wiki users have in discussions on Meta. This can help show which communities are not part of the discussion on wikis where we make decisions that affect many other wikis.
• You can now thank users for file uploads or for changing the language of a page. [133]

Problems

• There were many errors with the new MediaWiki version last week. The new version was rolled back. Updates that should have happened last week are late. [134]
• Everyone was logged out. This was because a user reported being logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now. [135]
• Many pages have JavaScript errors. You can read more and now see a list of user scripts with errors.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 October. It will be on all wikis from 8 October (calendar).
• Letters immediately after a link are shown as part of the link. For example the entire word in [[Child]]ren is linked. On Arabic wikis this works at both the start and end of a word. Previously on Arabic wikis numbers and other non-letter Unicode characters were shown as part of the link at the start of a word but not at the end. Now only Latin and Arabic letters will extend links on Arabic wikis. [136]

Future changes

• You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on 27 October around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [137]

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16:24, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry. If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

• File:Vl port.JPG

Yours sincerely, Ariadacapo (talk) 13:36, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

question about challenge voting

Hello,

It looks like in the demonstrations challenge there was a user who voted 2/3 (for a photo I nominated) then also voted 2/3 for another photo, then a different user came along and duplicated one of them. I was surprised to see that you set them all to 0. Is that the typical practice when someone accidentally uses the same vote twice? I mainly want to make sure it wasn't disqualified for the double-vote in the same photo (since that was someone else). Thanks. — Rhododendrites ^talk |  04:39, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

@Rhododendrites: yes those corrections are done to almost all the voting pages, as some people do not follow the voting rules. Software processing the votes highlights the issues, and I correct them until all the issues are resolved or checked. The page Commons:Photo_challenge/2020_-_August_-_Demonstrations/Voting explains the process: "Voters who voted for more than one 1st, 2nd or 3rd place will have those votes converted to Highly Commended praises. Other votes not complying with the requirements will be removed." For example I did the same here. I try to be very transparent of what I am doing and why by writing detailed comments. Other edits I often do is: removal of all unsigned votes and votes by users who do not meet "Voting is open to all registered contributors who have held accounts for at least 10 days and made 50 edits, and also to new Commons contributors who have entered the challenge with a picture. " requirement. --Jarekt (talk) 19:38, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Makes sense. Thanks for explaining. I missed the "Voters who voted for more than one..." line. Thanks for your work on this! — Rhododendrites ^talk |  19:40, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Photo challenge voting

You counted votes that were made almost a full week after voting closed for Commons:Photo challenge/2020 - August - HDR/Voting. And it ended up making a difference in the final results. Bait30 (talk) pls ping me when you reply 01:56, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

@Bait30: You are right I should have noticed those votes. I did spend a lot of time checking some other issue I found suspicious, but it turned out to be OK. --Jarekt (talk) 02:33, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

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Problems

• Because of the problems with the MediaWiki version two weeks ago last week's updates are also late. [138][139][140]

Changes later this week

• Live previews didn't show the templates used in the preview if you just edited a section. This has now been fixed. You can also test CSS and JavaScript pages even if you have the live preview enabled. Previously this didn't work well. [141][142]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 October. It will be on all wikis from 15 October (calendar).

Future changes

• A new stable version of Pywikibot is coming soon. [143]

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15:23, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

File:Capitol of Solomonic Column (1875).jpg

File:Capitol of Solomonic Column (1875).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

WTM (talk) 15:25, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

File:Sketch of Teorya Statue (1869).jpg

File:Sketch of Teorya Statue (1869).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

WTM (talk) 15:25, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

File:Sachin Tendulkar 2013 stamp of India 2.jpg

Hi Jarekt. Please could you kindly review the above image licence? Reason for asking: the image is already used in an article which has been nominated for DYK along with this image. So the image licence needs to be verified before it is accepted for DYK. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 19:54, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

@Storye book:  Done --Jarekt (talk) 20:04, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Storye book (talk) 07:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

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Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 October. It will be on all wikis from 22 October (calendar).

Future changes

• You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on 27 October around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [144]
• In the AbuseFilter extension, the rmspecials() function will be updated soon so that it does not remove the "space" character. Wikis are advised to wrap all the uses of rmspecials() with rmwhitespace() wherever necessary to keep filters' behavior unchanged. You can use the search function on Special:AbuseFilter to locate its usage. [145]
• Some gadgets and user-scripts use the HTML div with the ID #jump-to-nav. This div will be removed soon. Maintainers should replace these uses with either #siteSub or #mw-content-text. A list of affected scripts is at the top of phab:T265373.

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16:29, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Since PDMark is now allowed...

Hey Jarekt, you might recall our discussion from June. I had asked why you kept one PDMark-tagged file from deletion, while all other files from the same source and with the same mark were being deleted (as it was not considered a valid license). I see that this changed in August, which is great, and that you restored the file in question. Would you be available to also restore other uploads from the same source/photographer with the same license? Several of mine were affected:

• File:Amy Hennig, Gamelab 2018 (29279234518).jpg
• File:Daniel Benmergui, Gamelab 2018 (42441621474).jpg
• File:Daryl Holt, Gamelab 2018 (42322570894).jpg
• File:Dave Jones, Gamelab 2018 (42160352045).jpg
• File:Debbie Bestwick, Gamelab 2018 (41307122860).jpg
• File:Dino Patti, Gamelab 2017 (35611079335).jpg
• File:Fumito Ueda, Gamelab 2018 (34767992324).jpg
• File:Geoff Keighley, Gamelab 2018 (42442939804).png
• File:Henrique Olifiers, Gamelab 2018 (29269860488).jpg
• File:John Baez, Gamelab 2018 (43135071531).jpg
• File:Jon Jacobs, Gamelab 2017 (35483130361).jpg
• File:Jonathan Blow, Gamelab 2018 (42432130094).jpg
• File:Josef Fares, Gamelab 2018 (43100922332).jpg
• File:Kati Levoranta, Gamelab 2018 (43110732442).jpg
• File:Mark Cerny, Gamelab 2018 (43111149312).jpg
• File:Massimo Guarini, Gamelab 2017 (35459028892).jpg
• File:Mike Pondsmith, Gamelab 2017 (35483365351).jpg
• File:Raphaël Colantonio, Gamelab 2017 (35497057481).jpg
• File:Raúl Rubio, Gamelab 2017 (35244714230).jpg
• File:Shawn Layden, Gamelab 2018 (42207336735).jpg
• File:Todd Howard, Gamelab 2018 (41230874350).jpg

Much appreciated. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 11:38, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

If you have no time, no problem. Just let me know and I'll ask someone else. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 14:06, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

I will do it this week. --Jarekt (talk) 15:01, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for restoring the images! There were typos on two of the images (wrong year, they were later moved). These were deleted after being moved and still are. I fixed the names above. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 21:12, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

CC-BY-SA-IGO rendering wrong in Mediaviewer

Hey! In doing the Commons:World Health Organization release, someone noticed that the IGO license sends the wrong link in the template metadata to mediaviewer: see bottom right corner. Do you know how to fix that in the template? Astinson (WMF) (talk) 15:01, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Astinson (WMF) It is Fixed, see here --Jarekt (talk) 18:38, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

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Problems

• You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on October 27 around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [146]
• Last week, links to "diffs" from mobile watchlists and recentchanges were linking to page-revisions instead of diffs. This has now been fixed. [147]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• Since the introduction of the interface administrators user group in 2018, administrators couldn’t view the deleted history of CSS/JS pages. Now they can. [148]
• There was a problem with the Change Tags. The software would apply the "Reverted" tag to any page actions such as page-protection changes if they came directly after a reverted edit. This has now been fixed for new edits. [149]
• The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias in November. Another announcement will be made once the date is finalized. [150]

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17:37, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Template:USPresidentialTransition

Hi Jarekt, while doing the license conversion I ran into this fantastic template. Especially {{USPresidentialTransition/layout}} is quite interesting. Of course that breaks everything. Any idea how to replace this with standard templates? Looking at Category:Media from US Presidential Transition websites, it's not really a lot of files. Multichill (talk) 12:45, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Multichill I created {{Change.gov}} and {{Greatagain.gov}} and added CC tags directly to the files. Much simpler. --Jarekt (talk) 01:58, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Great. Thanks. Why did you change the Flickr tag? Multichill (talk) 10:14, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Multichill, User:FlickreviewR/reviewed-pass-change calls template:FlickreviewR which calls template:FlickreviewR/pass-change. So the message displayed is the same. --Jarekt (talk) 15:16, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Interesting. When I looked earlier I got a broken template. Now it looks fine. Multichill (talk) 16:13, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Multichill, I noticed that too. Apparently User:FlickreviewR/reviewed-pass-change and template:FlickreviewR, had a default for "reviewer" but template:FlickreviewR/pass-change did not, so I added it. --Jarekt (talk) 18:20, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

I don't think that's correct because 6 is a required parameter and it's now missing on File:20081201 NatSec Presser-0867.jpg. Multichill (talk) 18:23, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

OK I changed the files not the template. --Jarekt (talk) 21:08, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Move request

Putting this here for immediacy's sake, since the list of edit requests is quite backlogged. Template:Creator/preload was renamed to Template:Creator:Anton Schneider-Postrum and then to Commons:Creator:Anton Schneider-Postrum; the page should be moved back to its original name. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 20:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Fixed --Jarekt (talk) 21:07, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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Recent changes

• You can no longer read Wikimedia wikis if your browser uses very old TLS. This is because it is a security problem for everyone. It could lead to downgrade attacks. Since October 29, 2020, users who use old TLS versions will not be able to connect to Wikimedia projects. A list of browser recommendations is available. All modern operating systems and browsers are always able to reach Wikimedia projects. [151]
• There is a new automatic tracking category available: Pages with non-numeric formatnum arguments. It collects pages which use the {{formatnum}} parser function with invalid (non-numeric) input, e.g. {{formatnum:TECHNEWS}}. Note that {{formatnum:123,456}} is also invalid input: as described in the documentation, the argument should be unformatted so that it can be reliably and correctly localised. The tracking category will help identify problematic usage and double-formatting. The new tracking category's name can be translated at translatewiki. [152]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 3. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from November 4. It will be on all wikis from November 5 (calendar).
• Administrators and stewards will be able to use a special page (Special:CreateLocalAccount) to force local account creation for a global account. This is useful when account creation is blocked for that user (by a block or a filter). [153]
• The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias on November 4. This change excludes the English, Russian, and German-language Wikipedias, plus a few smaller Wikipedias with special circumstances. You can read the help page and the troubleshooting guide for more information. [154]

Future changes

• A discussion has been restarted about using a Unicode minus sign (− U+2212) in the output of {{formatnum}} when it is given a negative argument. [155]
• In the future IP addresses of unregistered users will not be shown for everyone. They will get an alias instead. There will be a new user right or an opt-in function for more vandal fighters to see the IPs of unregistered users. There would be some criteria for who gets the user right or opt-in. There will also be other new tools to help handle vandalism. This is early in the process and the developers are still collecting information from the communities before they suggest solutions.

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16:07, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

October-challenges are not open for voting

Good Morning Jarekt, the october-challenges are still not open for voting; are there any problems ? - Best regards : --Gordito1869 (talk) 07:32, 5 November 2020 (UTC) --- --- --- PS : ...and please note this obvious copyright violation in the (closed) september-challange. - --Gordito1869 (talk) 08:36, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Gordito1869 I just figured out what was the reason the code that process the page was giving me errors. I should have voting pages done tonight. Thanks for letting me know about the DR of the photo from the September challenge. I will exclude it from the challenge. --Jarekt (talk) 20:12, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

I think, scan-photos - without any Metadata-informations - may be a problem in other/all challenges; I said this also here. - With kindly regards : --Gordito1869 (talk) 20:41, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

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Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• You can see reference previews. This shows a preview of the footnote when you hover over it. This has been a beta feature. It will move out of beta and be enabled by default. There will be an option not to use it. The developers are looking for small or medium-sized wikis to be the first ones. You can let them know if your wiki is interested. [156]
• From November 16 the categories will not be sorted in order for a short time. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the internationalisation library. They will use a script to fix the existing categories. This can take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [157][158]

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15:48, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Ulrich Varnbüler

Hi Jarekt, You do realize that File:Ulrich Varnbüler (SM 1924z).png (as an example) is an etching by Clemens Aloys Hohwiesner, after Dürer? That's why I left it solely under Ulrich Varnbüler as a cat. Broichmore (talk) 11:28, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Broichmore Thank you. I corrected it. --Jarekt (talk) 19:58, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

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Recent changes

• Listings on category pages are sorted on each wiki for that language using a library. For a brief period on 16 November, changes to categories will not be sorted correctly for most languages. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the library. They will then use a script to fix the existing categories. This will take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [159][160]

Changes later this week

• If you merged two pages in a namespace where pages can't redirect this used to break the merge history. This will now be fixed. [161]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 November. It will be on all wikis from 19 November (calendar).

Future changes

• The Community Wishlist Survey is now open for proposals. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 16 to 30 November. You can vote on proposals from 8 December to 21 December.

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15:35, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Photo challenge/2020 - September - Nature's blues/Voting/Result

how could the same image https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cielo_blu_con_scia_nuvolosa_a_San_Magno_.jpg be listed twice in the rank list: rank 1 and rank 37 in this case? Hannes Grobe (talk) 10:03, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Good observation. Apparently, it was listed twice in Commons:Photo challenge/2020 - September - Nature's blues and it had two entries in Commons:Photo challenge/2020 - September - Nature's blues/Voting. I did not noticed and the software used for processing is not programed to detect it. --Jarekt (talk) 23:19, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

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Recent changes

• Timestamps in Special:Log are now links. They go to Special:Log for only that entry. This is how timestamps work on for example the history page. [162]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• The Wikimedia Cloud VPS hosts technical projects for the Wikimedia movement. Developers need to claim projects they use. This is because old and unused projects are removed once a year. Unclaimed projects can be shut down from 1 December. Unclaimed projects can be deleted from 1 January. [163]

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17:17, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

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Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 December. It will be on all wikis from 3 December (calendar).

Future changes

• The iOS Wikipedia app will show readers more of the article history. They can see new updates and easier see how the article has changed over time. This is an experiment. It will first be shown only to some iOS app users as a test. [164][165]
• The Wiki Replicas can be used for SQL queries. You can use Quarry, PAWS or other ways to do this. To make the Wiki Replicas stable there will be two changes. Cross-database JOINS will no longer work. You can also only query a database if you connect to it directly. This will happen in February 2021. If you think this affects you and you need help you can post on Phabricator or on Wikitech. [166]

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17:43, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Photo-challenge : November-voting (still closed)

Good morning Jarekt, Info for you : the november-voting is still not open. - With best regards : --Gordito1869 (talk) 07:31, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

 Done --Jarekt (talk) 14:40, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Files in Category:Files with no machine-readable license

Hi, Jarekt! I edited Template:OGDL by mistake caused files with this template were categorized into the category above. The template seems to be fixed. How can I remove them from that category? Thanks.--Larryasou (talk) 13:17, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Larryasou, I think it is OK now. Template is used on 44 files and there ae 43 files in maching category. --Jarekt (talk) 02:11, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

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Recent changes

• You can now put pages on your watchlist for a limited period of time. Some wikis already had this function. [167][168]

Changes later this week

• Information from Wikidata that is used on a wiki page can be shown in recent changes and watchlists on a Wikimedia wiki. To see this you need to turn on showing Wikidata edits in your watchlist in the preferences. Changes to the Wikidata description in the language of a Wikimedia wiki will then be shown in recent changes and watchlists. This will not show edits to languages that are not relevant to your wiki. [169][170]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 December. It will be on all wikis from 10 December (calendar).

Future changes

• You can vote on proposals in the Community Wishlist Survey between 8 December and 21 December. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on.

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16:13, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

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Recent changes

• There is a Wikipedia app for KaiOS phones. It was released in India in September. It can now be downloaded in other countries too. [171]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 December. It will be on all wikis from 17 December (calendar).

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21:33, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Code issues in MediaWiki:Gadget-PermissionOTRS.js

Hi Jarekt, I am a bored bot (this is kind of a computer program) that is watching the recent changes and tapping buttons like I did now.

Curious about the reason? Possibly not but I will tell you anyway:

1. You edited MediaWiki:Gadget-PermissionOTRS.js. Thank you for caring about Wikimedia Commons's javascript pages.
2. Though, that change appears to introduce 15 new jshint issues — the page's status is now having ERRORS.
3. To help you understanding where the issues are, I have aggregated a report here and now. If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask users experienced in javascript writing for help. But do not ask the bot's operators (chronically overwrought) unless you suspect an error of mine.

1. ISSUE: line 452 character 18: Expected ':' and instead saw ','. - Evidence: claim,
2. ISSUE: line 453 character 20: Expected '}' to match '{' from line 449 and instead saw ':'. - Evidence: summary: 'add [[COM:OTRS|OTRS]] ticket number as an [[Commons:Structured data|SDC]] claim',
3. ISSUE: line 453 character 22: Expected ')' and instead saw 'add [[COM:OTRS|OTRS]] ticket number as an [[Commons:Structured data|SDC]] claim'. - Evidence: summary: 'add [[COM:OTRS|OTRS]] ticket number as an [[Commons:Structured data|SDC]] claim',
4. ISSUE: line 454 character 13: Expected an assignment or function call and instead saw an expression. - Evidence: assert: 'user',
5. ISSUE: line 454 character 19: Missing semicolon. - Evidence: assert: 'user',
6. ISSUE: line 454 character 19: Expected '}' to match '{' from line 426 and instead saw ':'. - Evidence: assert: 'user',
7. ISSUE: line 454 character 20: Missing semicolon. - Evidence: assert: 'user',
8. ISSUE: line 455 character 13: Expected an assignment or function call and instead saw an expression. - Evidence: tags: oChangeTag,
9. ISSUE: line 455 character 17: Missing semicolon. - Evidence: tags: oChangeTag,
10. ISSUE: line 455 character 17: Expected '}' to match '{' from line 19 and instead saw ':'. - Evidence: tags: oChangeTag,
11. ISSUE: line 455 character 19: Expected ')' to match '(' from line 19 and instead saw 'oChangeTag'. - Evidence: tags: oChangeTag,
12. ISSUE: line 456 character 9: Unexpected '}'. - Evidence: } )
13. ISSUE: line 455 character 29: Expected an assignment or function call and instead saw an expression. - Evidence: tags: oChangeTag,
14. ISSUE: line 455 character 30: Missing semicolon. - Evidence: tags: oChangeTag,
15. ISSUE: line 456 character 9: Expected '(end)' and instead saw '}'. - Evidence: } )

Your CommonsMaintenanceBot (talk) at 04:13, 17 December 2020 (UTC).

Code issues in MediaWiki:Gadget-PermissionOTRS.js

Hi Jarekt, I am a bored bot (this is kind of a computer program) that is watching the recent changes and tapping buttons like I did now.

Curious about the reason? Possibly not but I will tell you anyway:

1. You edited MediaWiki:Gadget-PermissionOTRS.js. Thank you for caring about Wikimedia Commons's javascript pages.
2. Though, that change appears to introduce 1 new esprima issue — the page's status is now having ERRORS.
3. To help you understanding where the issues are, I have aggregated a report here and now. If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask users experienced in javascript writing for help. But do not ask the bot's operators (chronically overwrought) unless you suspect an error of mine.

1. ERROR: Cannot parse line 452 column 9: Unexpected token ,

Your CommonsMaintenanceBot (talk) at 04:13, 17 December 2020 (UTC).

Code issues in MediaWiki:Gadget-PermissionOTRS.js

Hi Jarekt, I am a bored bot (this is kind of a computer program) that is watching the recent changes and tapping buttons like I did now.

Curious about the reason? Possibly not but I will tell you anyway:

1. You edited MediaWiki:Gadget-PermissionOTRS.js. Thank you for caring about Wikimedia Commons's javascript pages.
2. Though, that change appears to introduce 15 new jshint issues — the page's status is now having ERRORS.
3. To help you understanding where the issues are, I have aggregated a report here and now. If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask users experienced in javascript writing for help. But do not ask the bot's operators (chronically overwrought) unless you suspect an error of mine.

1. ISSUE: line 452 character 18: Expected ':' and instead saw ','. - Evidence: claim,
2. ISSUE: line 453 character 20: Expected '}' to match '{' from line 449 and instead saw ':'. - Evidence: summary: 'add [[COM:OTRS|OTRS]] ticket number as an [[Commons:Structured data|SDC]] claim',
3. ISSUE: line 453 character 22: Expected ')' and instead saw 'add [[COM:OTRS|OTRS]] ticket number as an [[Commons:Structured data|SDC]] claim'. - Evidence: summary: 'add [[COM:OTRS|OTRS]] ticket number as an [[Commons:Structured data|SDC]] claim',
4. ISSUE: line 454 character 13: Expected an assignment or function call and instead saw an expression. - Evidence: assert: 'user',
5. ISSUE: line 454 character 19: Missing semicolon. - Evidence: assert: 'user',
6. ISSUE: line 454 character 19: Expected '}' to match '{' from line 426 and instead saw ':'. - Evidence: assert: 'user',
7. ISSUE: line 454 character 20: Missing semicolon. - Evidence: assert: 'user',
8. ISSUE: line 455 character 13: Expected an assignment or function call and instead saw an expression. - Evidence: tags: oChangeTag,
9. ISSUE: line 455 character 17: Missing semicolon. - Evidence: tags: oChangeTag,
10. ISSUE: line 455 character 17: Expected '}' to match '{' from line 19 and instead saw ':'. - Evidence: tags: oChangeTag,
11. ISSUE: line 455 character 19: Expected ')' to match '(' from line 19 and instead saw 'oChangeTag'. - Evidence: tags: oChangeTag,
12. ISSUE: line 456 character 9: Unexpected '}'. - Evidence: } )
13. ISSUE: line 455 character 29: Expected an assignment or function call and instead saw an expression. - Evidence: tags: oChangeTag,
14. ISSUE: line 455 character 30: Missing semicolon. - Evidence: tags: oChangeTag,
15. ISSUE: line 456 character 9: Expected '(end)' and instead saw '}'. - Evidence: } )

Your CommonsMaintenanceBot (talk) at 04:13, 17 December 2020 (UTC).

Code issues in MediaWiki:Gadget-PermissionOTRS.js

Hi Jarekt, I am a bored bot (this is kind of a computer program) that is watching the recent changes and tapping buttons like I did now.

Curious about the reason? Possibly not but I will tell you anyway:

1. You edited MediaWiki:Gadget-PermissionOTRS.js. Thank you for caring about Wikimedia Commons's javascript pages.
2. Though, that change appears to introduce 1 new esprima issue — the page's status is now having ERRORS.
3. To help you understanding where the issues are, I have aggregated a report here and now. If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask users experienced in javascript writing for help. But do not ask the bot's operators (chronically overwrought) unless you suspect an error of mine.

1. ERROR: Cannot parse line 452 column 9: Unexpected token ,

Your CommonsMaintenanceBot (talk) at 04:13, 17 December 2020 (UTC).

book template

I wrote this before and it disappeared before I posted it....

I just stripped a bunch of human and bot stuff from a book template, and it was just great to see what wikidata is doing there!

One problem, at least I think it is a problem, is the image stuff. A scan is not an image even though the template uses "Image page". The {{Wikidata Infobox}} uses the image. See Category:Undine (1919).

The book template, w/out help from wd will display the scan and using the page number from "Image page" will open to that page. See File:Undine.djvu. The clash of scan vs. image can be seen at File:Handbook of style in use at the Riverside press, Cambridge, Massachusetts (IA handbookofstylei00riverich).pdf where I put an image for the cat and broke the scan stuff.

The one problem aside, it was just great watching all of the stuff just get pulled in like that! Sorry to have a problem.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 02:11, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

I added "image" field to the file to override Wikidata values. It is clunky but it works. I also noticed that I do not pull "Image page" from wikidata as I thought I was. I will have to fix that. --Jarekt (talk) 02:56, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

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