User talk:Jmabel/Archive 7

Berlin Brandenburg Gate

Hallo Jmabel, Du kannst mein Foto Brandenburger Tor bei Nacht ( Brandenburg Gate by night auf Deiner privaten Homepage verwenden, wenn Du eine Link zur meinem Foto auf der Wikimedia-Seite setzt und meinen Namen nennst: Pedelecs by Wikimedia.

-- Pedelecs (talk) 16:23, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

• I'm missing context here. I don't remember ever asking to use your picture, and I'm certainly not currently using it. Perhaps this relates to someone else's query on the Help desk or Village pump, where I answer a lot of the questions. (Ich vermisse Kontext hier. Ich glaube nicht daran erinnern, jemals zu fragen, um Ihr Bild zu benutzen, und ich bin sicher nicht gerade benutzen. Vielleicht bezieht sich auf Abfrage die jemand anderes im Helpdesk oder Dorfpumpe, wo ich beantworten viele der Fragen.) - Jmabel ! talk 17:36, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Industrial laundries

I don't think I had any other options:

• You're probably right about it being a dry-cleaning place, but dry cleaning isn't something that would have come to mind
• The description for Category:Laundromat read "Laundromats, launderettes or laundrettes are commercial laundries where the customer can operate the machines". So-and-so Cleaners doesn't sound like a place with customer-operated machines.
• Category:Laundries was created in 2011, and Category:Laundries in the United States just last year.

I'm not seeing any other laundry-related categories that would be applicable to buildings, except for stuff created after I uploaded it with Category:Industrial laundry. Thanks for letting me know, as I'll fix it, but I don't think I could have done any better in 2009. Nyttend (talk) 01:54, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Category for one item redux

Category:William C. Gover as an example. Wikidata gives a slot to link to Wikicommons. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 19:01, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

• Yes. Next time, there's also this one more step. - Jmabel ! talk 19:14, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Usually a bot fills that in, but I do not know how often it is run. If one is filled and the other empty the bot migrates it to fill the field. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 23:11, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

It would be nice if Wikisource was as cooperative. My last interaction had an editor delete what I was adding mid-transcribing it, and they do not allow links back to Wikipedia. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 23:29, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Category:Governor Albert D. Rosellini Bridge—Evergreen Point

I honestly don't remember creating the Category:Governor Albert D. Rosellini Bridge—Evergreen Point. Do you know of a way I can get a history? ----DanTD (talk) 03:09, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

14:03, 18 September 2011 . . DanTD (talk | contribs | block) m (85 bytes) (added Category:Washington State Route 520 using HotCat)

14:02, 18 September 2011 . . DanTD (talk | contribs | block) m (45 bytes) (added Category:Evergreen Point Floating Bridge using HotCat)

• I can't really show you more than that without undeleting, which doesn't seem worth the effort unless you really want me to. And I'm unaware of any particular way to get a history of what might once have been in the category. - Jmabel ! talk 06:07, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
  • Well, I've seen instances where you can get histories of articles and categories, and instance where you can, even without restoration. I just looked up my history from that time, and I don't even see my name attached to either category. As for restoring this, don't even bother. ----DanTD (talk) 13:33, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

File:Anacortes - Eagles Building 01.jpg

File:Anacortes - Eagles Building 01.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

68.186.121.41 01:35, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

File:Baist Seattle 1905 legend - alt - raw.jpg

File:Baist Seattle 1905 legend - alt - raw.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Kopiersperre (talk) 15:23, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Caption Challenge

Would you be willing to take on the task of uploading this weekly, so I can concentrate on other projects?ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:41, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

• No, sorry, I think it's fun and all, but I really wouldn't care much if it went away. I'm much too busy to take on something I don't care strongly about. - Jmabel ! talk 16:05, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Bot removal at VP

• Hello Jmabel, could you have have a look at your reversion here? I was trying to find a comment that appears on my watchlist but on VP is missing. Thanks. Anna (Cookie) (talk) 02:57, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Jmabel,

When you removed a lot of stuff from VP, you also removed a request from a :EN: arbiter to delete a potntially libellous image. Fortunately I had already initiated the delete. Will you please reinstate stuff that should not have been removed. Martinvl (talk) 09:47, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

@Cookie: @Martinvl: My apologies. Should now be fixed. - Jmabel ! talk 16:11, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Anna (Cookie) (talk) 03:22, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

File:Korean acorn jellies.jpg

Nice to meet you. First, thank you for your contribution. Please check my feedback on the photos you uploaded.File:Korean_acorn_jellies.jpg I read the first description and current description too. I can't convinced that but your photos looks like '다식 ko:다식, en:Dasik, Gooogle Image Search'. Please check it out. If this is the correct 도토리묵(Dotorimuk; acorn jelly). I'm sorry. Is my mistake. Thank you for reading. (I do not know English well. These statements were translated into Google Translator. And it was modified.)

반갑습니다. 우선 당신의 기여에 감사드립니다. 올리신 파일에 대해 확인을 바랍니다.File:Korean_acorn_jellies.jpg 나는 처음의 설명과, 현재의 설명을 모두 읽었습니다. 나는 확신할 수는 없지만 당신의 사진이 '다식 ko:다식, en:Dasik, Gooogle Image Search'인 것 같습니다. 확인을 바랍니다. 만약 확실한 도토리묵이라면 미안합니다. 나의 실수 입니다. 읽어주셔서 감사합니다. (나는 영어를 잘 못합니다. 이 문장들은 구글 번역기로 번역하였습니다. 그리고 수정했습니다.) -- 메이 (talk) 10:27, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

File:Vancouver, WA - Esther Short Park - The Pioneer Mother 01.jpg

Sorry about that -- the other three in the cat were by AB and I was a little too broad with the cut and paste. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 16:50, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

• No problem. Easily fixed. (Although I sometimes wonder: given that I have to fix/revert something messed up on one or another of my 40,000+ files roughly once a day, what's going to happen someday when I'm not here...) - Jmabel ! talk 16:57, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

File:Seattle Collage White.jpg

Hi! Thank you for the notice. Is it okay now? --Dominikosaurus (talk) 14:42, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Seattle_-_Moore_Theatre_-_electricals_01.jpg

Hervorragendes Bild und gut kategorisiert! --Achim Hering (talk) 15:19, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

• Danke schoen. - Jmabel ! talk 15:51, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Licensing problem for businessman

FYI I left a new user this message regarding an image of a Tacoma chef/businessman with dubious licensing, if there's anything you want to add. Their username implies that they are probably an employee of his company, Pacific Grill. - Brianhe (talk) 23:12, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks, I clarified a little further. - Jmabel ! talk 23:23, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

New-for-you (?) template

See this edit to one of your uploads; I use the template heavily and thought you might find it useful, both because it autotranslates and because it transcludes a category for the date when the photo was taken. Nyttend (talk) 13:57, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks. - Jmabel ! talk 14:09, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Northgate and Ravenna-Bryant maps

I await your response to my response to your complaint about my map uploads. I must admit I don't see how I could have done them otherwise given the upload devices built in questions, and I do assert that both files as I uploaded them were "my work" in the sense that I had modified public domain materials to make them. --Haruo (talk) 07:34, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

• Replied at User talk:Haruo. - Jmabel ! talk 15:21, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks! I'll take your advice in future cases. --Haruo (talk) 20:01, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

YMCA in Everett

Moved to User talk:Xnatedawgx to keep this in one place.

Image request - views from SR 520

Joe, do you have or know where to find any images of the views from SR 520? Especially to the north? I'd like one to illustrate what people would be able to see from the pedestrian belvederes on the new bridge. Thanks! - Brianhe (talk) 08:10, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• I don't see anything in Category:Evergreen Point Floating Bridge, so I suspect there is nothing. Of course, there is now going to be an opportunity to take such photos! - Jmabel ! talk 15:36, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

My DR

Is Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Bubba73 being seen by people who make deletions? It isn't listed at Commons:Deletion_requests#Most_recent_deletion_requests. Bubba73 (talk) 18:54, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

They are there, under Commons:Deletion_requests/2016/05/08. Bubba73 (talk) 19:01, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Bardahl sign

Do you know why there's no pictures of the Bardahl sign? Are there copyright problems? Even as a logo it probably doesn't meet the threshold of originality. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 18:57, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

• No good reason. I guess no one's uploaded one. Certainly not a copyright issue, and for trademarks just mark it with {{Trademark}}. - Jmabel ! talk 00:52, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

File:Four Romanians.JPG

File:Four Romanians.JPG has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Josve05a (talk) 11:57, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Cat deletion

Hi Jmabel,
Sorry to be a pain but could you delete Category:Paintings in Musée d'Orsay so I can move Category:Paintings in the Musée d'Orsay there please?,
You're the first admin I've seen on and figured asking you would be quicker than CSDing,
Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 02:38, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

• I don't see how a deletion would help. It seems to me that you need to:
  1. Copy the page content of Category:Paintings in Musée d'Orsay to Category:Paintings in the Musée d'Orsay.
  2. Turn Category:Paintings in Musée d'Orsay into a soft redirect to Category:Paintings in the Musée d'Orsay.
  3. Use User:CommonsDelinker/commands to move the content. I believe that needs an admin, so come back to me when you are ready for that step. - Jmabel ! talk 02:45, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

I thought we preserved the history and all that ? I assumed it would need to be deleted so the former could be moved to the latter with the history with it ? ...,

Anyway someone's objected for the moment so I'm going to stick my head in an oven and hope it does some good! , Thanks for your help anyway, –Davey2010^Talk 02:53, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

The trivial history of a category like this isn't of much relevance. Nothing rises to the level of copyrightable. - Jmabel ! talk 02:55, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Ahhh right, Now it all makes sense , Anyway thanks for your help. –Davey2010^Talk 02:59, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

File:White Genocide Illustrated.png

Would you have a look at File:White Genocide Illustrated.png? I suspect that it is not original work and may be a copyright violation as it may have been created without credit by combining graphics from this source: Diversity Explosion: How New Racial Demographics are Remaking America - William H. Frey - Google Books.

I also object to the name of the file, which I do not believe represents the data in the graphic. Ipso facto from the data, it is absurd to conclude that anyone is actually carrying out genocide against whites.

Peaceray (talk) 06:27, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

• Quite possibly nothing copyrightable there: it may be all so simple as to be ineligible. But if all the colors are straight from the book, then it could possibly be problematic. And I certainly agree about the contentious name. Is there any reason you wrote to me rather than nominate it for deletion? - Jmabel ! talk 14:21, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Yeah, am much more familiar with deletion templates in en.wikipedia than commons. Next time I'll figure out how to do that! Peaceray (talk) 22:17, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Code issues in User:Jmabel/common.js

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BN

Hi, there's a discussion at Commons:Bureaucrats' noticeboard#'crat action requested which includes evidence from your talk page history. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 07:23, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

• I don't really have anything to add. I think you and Colin both do good work, don't get along, and should do the best to stay out of each other's way. - Jmabel ! talk 15:10, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Coffeehouses / Cafés

Moved comment to User talk:An Errant Knight to keep conversation in one place. Jmabel ! talk 03:26, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

• • If you only read half of a requested response, it won't make sense. Read ALL of it.An Errant Knight (talk) 04:21, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
    1. I did read all of it.
    2. Why do you insist on splitting this conversation across multiple pages? - Jmabel ! talk 04:35, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Buildings in the US by former function

Just wanted to say thanks for setting up all these categories. I think they'll be really helpful. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:12, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

• You're welcome. I got tired of the hodgepodge and especially of the nonsense of extant buildings often being classified hierarchically as "former buildings" just because they were (for example) former post offices. - Jmabel ! talk 04:14, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

According to your Guiding

@Jmabel: FYI - Please see - Restoration of pictures (now well-founded): Files: ... on Commons:Und... Thanks Khurshed.yusufbekov (talk) 21:58, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

• @Khurshed.yusufbekov: As I advised elsewhere, you need to provide your explanations (including your having taken pictures as a child) in the relevant section on Commons:Undeletion_requests. You can't expect someone else to sort through a complicated discussion elsewhere to work out whether to undelete these. - Jmabel ! talk 22:05, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Authority control

Hello Jmabel, could you possibly help with this? -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 13:40, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

• Responded there (but not sure I can help). - Jmabel ! talk 14:41, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Photographer's Barnstar
	Thanks for all your recent Southern Oregon-related photographs! MB298 (talk) 04:01, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks. - Jmabel ! talk 04:06, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Advice?

Hi, Jmabel. I wonder if you would mind sending me an email. There's something I'd like your advice on. I'm not able to use the email function (something about Yahoo! emails not working with it), but I can reply if you send one. Thanks in advance. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:37, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

• You don't have "email this user" on your user page, so I can't do that. I'm guessing you have to add your email address to your preferences, or some such. You can find my email address elsewhere online easily enough, but I have no problem stating it here: jmabel AT speakeasy DOT org. - Jmabel ! talk 15:11, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you...

... for re-categorizing some of my recent Georgetown uploads (Category:2016 photographs of Seattle by Another Believer). Much appreciated! -Another Believer (talk) 00:06, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Image File: Hierarchy of Effects

While I created the image, using Word and Photoshop, it is based on ideas taken from the cited source. On review, and after re-reading the original article from 1961, it is clear that the diagram is similar, but not identical to a diagram used in the article. I think that the safest route would be to withdraw my request to reinstate the image. Thank-you for trying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BronHiggs (talk • contribs) 06:25, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect government photo permissions

Joe, as far as I know all government employee photographs should be public domain. However it appears that the Vienna Embassy photos on Flickr are all tagged "no derivatives". I wanted to pull one from this album but the flickr2commons tool won't do it, probably because of this. Any idea why they are doing this, and do we maybe have a formal way of requesting that they re-tag their albums? - Brianhe (talk) 20:18, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

P.s. I went ahead and uploaded File:Wesner Zeitlhofer and Gürtler.jpg with the PD-DOS tag. But it would still be nice to alert the embassy that their Flickr uploads are incorrectly tagged. - Brianhe (talk) 20:35, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

@Brianhe: They are PD if they are taken by a government employee in the performance of his or her duties. It's not absolutely clear to me that is the case; for example, what if the photo was taken by a volunteer? You might want to contact them and ask for that to be clarified. - Jmabel ! talk 21:09, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

I can do that, then send in the official response for OTRS documentation, I suppose. It seems unlikely the whole photostream is on somebody's off time though. Brianhe (talk) 00:37, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Agree, but any individual photo could be. - Jmabel ! talk 00:41, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

A consultation regarding Podkarpackie Voivodeship or Subcarpathian Voivodeship

Since you are an administrator with very extensive experience at Commons and have created, three days ago, Category:Historical Park Blizna, I would like to consult with you regarding the subject mentioned in the above header.

As a result of the August 2011 Wikipedia discussion at en:Talk:Podkarpackie Voivodeship#Requested move, a decision was made to move the main title header "Subcarpathian Voivodeship" to "Podkarpackie Voivodeship".

On Commons, however, the main title header is still the Polish form, Województwo podkarpackie (created 7 January 2009 as Podkarpackie, and moved on 24 April 2014 to Województwo podkarpackie), with Subcarpathian Voivodeship (created 4 January 2009) redirecting to it and Podkarpackie Voivodeship remaining as a redlink.

I just moved Category:Blizna (województwo podkarpackie) to Category:Blizna (Podkarpackie Voivodeship) and adjusted that category within two files (File:Blizna Church.JPG and File:PL-PK Blizna, przydrożna kapliczka 2014-06-21--19-11-50-047 cr.jpg) as well as within the category that you created, (Category:Historical Park Blizna).

As a result of these adjustments, however, your creation, Category:Historical Park Blizna, is now in two categories with competing voivodeship names, Category:Blizna (Podkarpackie Voivodeship) and Category:Museums in Subcarpathian Voivodeship.

Furthermore, Category:Subcarpathian Voivodeship has 30 subcategories, all of which contain the term "Subcarpathian", a term that also appears in a substantial number of files.

Thus, before embarking on any further changes which would have to be fairly extensive, I would like to consult with you whether it would be best to leave well enough alone and move Category:Blizna (Podkarpackie Voivodeship) to Category:Blizna (Subcarpathian Voivodeship) as well as adjust the categories to that form in your creation and the two files, or whether to start numerous moves to bring the name "Subcarpathian" in compliance/harmony with the form used in Wikipedia, "Podkarpackie".

Finally, it should be noted that there are numerous other such inconsistencies: for example, all 25 subcategories in Category:Churches in Subcarpathian Voivodeship by powiat use the Polish form instead of the form which appears in English Wikipedia's main title header. To use the first of these subcategories (Category:Churches in powiat bieszczadzki) as an example, "powiat bieszczadzki" in English Wikipedia is en:Bieszczady County.
Roman Spinner (talk) 21:06, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

@Roman Spinner: I personally would go with "Subcarpathian Voivodeship". Both Subcarpathian and Voivodeship are English words well understood by any English-speaker with an interest in the region. Similarly, unless there is a strong reason not to consider a powiat a "county", I'd go with the English there as well. (By "strong reason" I mean something like that we don't translate the Spanish comarca as "county" even though they are largely analogous, because they Spanish has a distinct word condado that specifically refers to an area historically ruled by a count, and so "county" for comarca is definitely not appropriate.) Certainly we use "county" for the Romanian judeţ.

I have very little Polish, so I can't really judge the Polish-language issues here, but certainly Commons policy is for category names to use any common English words when they exist. - Jmabel ! talk 22:17, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

My appreciation for your advice and, since I am wary of Commons forms differing from those existing on Wikipedia, I will solicit additional input at en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poland. The consensus at en:Talk:Podkarpackie Voivodeship#Requested move was not unanimous and the participation was relatively small, but the form has remained in place since then. The Polish county names at Commons will also need to be moved per your suggestion.
Roman Spinner (talk) 23:20, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Palais des Beaux-Arts de Lille

Hi Jmabel. OK. Thank you for your notice. --JMCC1 (talk) 05:52, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Tinker Field original interior

Could you take a look at File:Tinker Field original interior.jpg and see if my changes are sufficient? Thank you! ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:04, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

• I did some further work, including moving comments to talk page. - Jmabel ! talk 16:42, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Thank you! ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:59, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Galleries

Aloha! I totally forgot to reply on VP regarding Galleries. I must say your gallery Seattle and the Orient certainly is excellent. --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 04:39, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks! - Jmabel ! talk 04:43, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

NYC reservoirs

Yes, all of them are entirely within the state. Or at least the reservoirs proper ... as can be seen here, some of the Croton Watershed (the smaller one closer to the city) overlaps into Connecticut.

As I was creating and filling the category, I realized I was glad for that. Years ago there was a proposal, if more Catskill reservoirs could not be built, to work things out with Connecticut and Massachusetts (by land swap, yet!) and dam the Housatonic along its upper reaches to create adequate capacity. Instead, damming the branches of the Delaware and Schoharie Creek became technically and politically feasible, and that's where we are today. Daniel Case (talk) 20:02, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks! - Jmabel ! talk 20:09, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

	Merry Christmas, Jmabel!
	Hi Jmabel, thank you for all your valuable contributions on Commons. This help fulfill the number 1 goal of Commons: To be a free, educational media repository for everyone. I wish you and your family a merry Christmas and a happy new year.    ★ Poké95 01:38, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Jmabel!

Happy New Year!

Jmabel, a new year is like a blank book, the pen is in your hands. It is your chance to write a beautiful story for yourself! Happy New Year 2017. Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 18:20, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Robert Meeropol

I have tweaked it less, if you are not happy please revert again and I won't touch it any more. Unibond (talk) 18:24, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

• <responding where conversation was started> - Jmabel ! talk 18:36, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Wine barrel valves

We are working, Mr Mabel.[1] However, thanks for the notice. And happy year 2017. --Latemplanza (talk) 09:18, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

File:Pro-jallikattu-protest-tn-2017.jpg

Hi Jmabel, I picked your name from the Commons Help Desk. I'm an admin on enwiki. Images and related copyrights aren't my area of strong knowledge. I happened upon File:Pro-jallikattu-protest-tn-2017.jpg, which was labeled as the user's own work, but the middle image is identical to this Financial Express image, which leads me to believe it needs some scrutiny from the community. Sorry to dump this in your lap, and any edification you can provide me would be appreciated. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:15, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Neighbourhoods

Yes, the fact is that at upper level, Neighborhoods is a granchild cat of Political geography which is in turn child of Geography. Thus is not necessarily wrong to place "Neighborhoods in city" as child cat of "Geography of city". -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 12:33, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

• <responding where the conversation was started> - Jmabel ! talk 15:58, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

File:Seattle - Frye-Bruhn beef room - 1900.jpg

File:Seattle - Frye-Bruhn beef room - 1900.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Elle India (talk) 13:16, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Re: Episcopalian Altars, etc.

Hi, Jmabel, I reponded to your post on my talk page, don't know if you saw it. I also wanted to let you know that I intend to make another change to the category Anglican Bishops. I see that there are separate sub-cats for various provinces of the Anglican Communion, including Bishops of the Episcopal Church, Bishops of the Church of Ireland, Bishops of the Church of Uganda, etc. etc., BUT, there is not a sub-cat Bishops of the Church of England. I intend to create that category, and populate it with the various diocesan bishop subcats. Then, I want to move the subcat "suffragan bishops in England" (which is the only entry in the cat Anglican bishops by diocese in England) into the newly created cat and delete its old parent, Anglican bishops by diocese in England, which would then be empty (and which is titled ambiguously anyway, since it never contained all of the Anglican bishops in England). The reason for this is that "suffragan bishops" should be a subcat of "Bishops". Hope that makes sense, let me know if otherwise. Drbones1950 (talk) 19:46, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

User Vicond

Frist of all:Thank you very mutch by your amability.Sadly and in adiction I have to say that I loose the works...Even the four that you see is corresponding to others uploads made by others users made more recently.In fact if you go to the pages of the files, you can note that the names of the pages is not correspondig with the names of the primary files, like one kind of redirecting. In any way I will be gratefull to recover this works or at least the most part of them, if you believe is possible that. I promisess to be more carefull when I made my uploads in the future.Honestly:I thinked that I´s could served to ilustrate the culture and the social rroyalty of my country. Thank you very mutch aggain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicond (talk • contribs) 17:38, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

• I assume the relevant list is the red links at Commons:Deletion requests/Vicond's uploads. Probably the simplest thing would be for me to undelete about a dozen at a time for you to download to your machine. It would be greatly appreciated if when I do that, you could do the downloads within 24 hours, then get back to me to let me know to re-delete those and go on to the next batch. Would that work for you? (Y si eres, como sospecho, hispanohablante, puedes escribirme in español, si sea más fácil.) - Jmabel ! talk 18:38, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

*Tengo que decir que usted en alguna forma ha descubierto mi idioma primario.Espero que realmente podamos comunicarnos en Español.

En primer lugar, quería agradecerle sinceramente su gesto.Como le decía anteriormente, mi interés en subir estos dibujos no fue tan solo artistico sino educativo y sobre todo informativo.Sospecho que Cuba es un país del cual los agloparlantes de los Estados Unidos conocen relativamente poco.Mi interés fué abrir una ventana en ese sentido.de cualquier manera le estoy agradecido de poder recuperar mis dibujos que como ya les había dicho los perdí. En efecto LOS DE LAS LETRAS ROJAS son los que ya no están ni en commons ni en mi propiedad.Sería de gran utilidad para mí si usted pudiese recuperar como dice usted estos dibujos al menos, por un día para que yo tuviese la posibilidad de volver a tenerlos de vuelta conmigo.Sin más, sientase libre de hacerlo, yo desde ahora le quedo agradecido.

    Saludos
                            Vicond

Soy norteamericano, pero mi padre era hombre de negocios, y estaba brevemente encarcelado bajo Batista.

Por primero, voy a restorar 5 dibujos (serán enlaces azules en Commons:Deletion requests/Vicond's uploads). Escribe aquí cuando están descargados, y podemos seguir a los próximos. - Jmabel ! talk 05:33, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Echo!Muchas Gracias.Interesante historia la de su padre!.Ya estoy preparado para recibir los otros 5.Guando guste! Vicond

• Esta vez, 10. - Jmabel ! talk 17:43, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Perfecto, ya los salvé.Disculpe amigo, me he descuidado de salvar el primero File:Girl with a chick.jpg, podría por favor hacermelo llegar de nuevo? Prometo que esto no volverá a ocurrir.De paso,esta vez si quiere, puede descargarme 20.Yo estoy dispuesto a pasar la mayor parte del tiempo posible en esto, de manera que esta operación termine rápido y usted no tenga que gastar mucho tiempo en esto.Muchas Gracias, por todo.

Vicond (talk)

• 10 más, incluso esto. (10 a la vez me conviene más.) - Jmabel ! talk 05:29, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Ok,ya los bajé.Muchas Gracias por su comprensión.Puede seguir al siguiente grupo. Vicond (talk)

• Y otro 15. - Jmabel ! talk 18:03, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Listo.Gracias! Puede seguir al siguiente grupo. Vicond (talk)

• Otro 15. - Jmabel ! talk 16:08, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Listo.El grupo que sigue... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicond (talk • contribs) 06:29, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Echo!El siguiente grupo, cuando guste. çVicond Ok, el siguiente.Un detalle importante:En el siguiente grupo aparecen algunas imagenes EN AZUL, que cuando las abro NO SON LAS MIAS.No las subí yo.Podrá hacer algo al respecto? Sino no se preocupe, ya ha echo mas que suficiente.Saludos. Vicond

• Es porque File:Bust.jpg (etc.) que ya existe no tiene ninguna relación con tu archivo del mismo nombre. - Jmabel ! talk
  • Favor de recubrir File:Bust.jpg tan pronto que puedes, y escríbame cuando lo las hecho. ¡Grácias! - Jmabel ! talk 21:10, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Hola amigo!No entendí lo que me quiso decir con ´´recubrir´´ al archivoFile:Bust.jpg .¿Como se hace esto? El caso es que FELIZMENTE, mi imagen YA APARECE EN EL ARCHIVO! Como lo logrò? Bueno ahora el punto es que el archivo File:Asian woman 7.jpg se ha quedado en ROJO, no me explico porquè? No sè si podrà tambièn con este pequeño inconveniente. Saludos y una vez màs gracias. Vicond

• File:Bust.jpg es un "redirect"; entonces, el asunto es como no existía.
• Si File:Asian woman 7.jpg ha cambiado, no sé como.
  • Ahora entiendo. El enlace se convirtió en rojo, no el imagen. - Jmabel ! talk 02:39, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
• Empecé con la trancha siguiente. - Jmabel ! talk 02:30, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Otro docena, incluso File:Asian woman 7.jpg. - Jmabel ! talk 02:51, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Amigo, no habia terminado de descargar el grupo anterior.!Lo estaba haciendo justo ahora!Disculpe es que en mi país la conexión es muy lenta, le prometo descargar los anteriores mas este grupo en las proximas cinco horas.Por favor si puede baje los anteriores.Estoy trabajando en esto de lleno ahora mismo, Gracias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicond (talk • contribs) 03:02, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

• ¿Exactamente cuales necesito restaurar otra vez? (Una lista de archivos, por favor, o primero y último si son consecutivos.) Salgo ahora, pero puedo hacerlo cuando vuelvo. - Jmabel ! talk 03:10, 23 February 2017 (UTC) Jmabel ! talk 04:18, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Ahora estoy intentando guardar el grupo nuevo (no lo borre).La conexion es pésima, pero si fuese necesario no dormiré hasta terminar con lo que me ha descargado. Del grupo viejo me faltó:

File:The big bed.jpg

File:Asian woman 13.jpg

File:Fine Lines.jpg

Saludos Amigo ya practicamente lo logré, solo que: 1-el archivo:File:The big bed.jpg es demasiado grande para bajarlo por esta vía.Debo hacerlo mañana en una oficina del estado.Por favor si puede no lo borre por ahora, yo le digo cuando. 2-Si va ha seguir para el siguiente grupo, tenga cuidado de no borrar el archivo: [File:Not yet please.jpg]. Este es el único de mis dibujos que me quedan en wikipedia, y ahora se está usando en la wikipedia en Portugués.Gracias. Vicond

Amigo, ya pude salvar :File:The big bed.jpg, pero ahora estoy trabajando y no puedo seguir con esta labor.A la noche bajo el grupo nuevo y le respondo a su correo.Gracias.

Vicond

Hermano, por cuestiones ajenas a mí, no he podido abrir hoy mi correo electronico (E-Mail).No quisiera abrumarlo con las contrariedades e imprevistos de mi país.De cualquier manera ya descargé los archivos restantes, menos estos tres, que usted me ha dicho:

[File:White butterfly.jpg], [File:Relation.jpg], [File:Resting.jpg].

Hagamos algo:Descarge el último grupo que queda y deje estos tres archivos para el final.Yo espero poder cargar mi correo electrónico mañana.Gracias y Saludos.

PD:Recuerde ahora,tener cuidado de no borrarme [File:Not yet please.jpg].

Vicond

Amigo, finalmente....ACABO DE SALVAR EL ULTIMO GRUPO.Desconozco como le habrá ido a usted con esta labor, pero para mí a sido una tarea bastante engorrosa y penosa, teniendo en cuenta la cantidad (mas de 100), el ancho de banda y el tipo de conexión que he utilizado y finalmente y no menos importante, el echo de tener que rescatar un trabajo, donado con igual o mayor dificultad, que en algún momento pensé que podía haber resultado de alguna utilidad a Wikipedia.

Quería saber si finalmente ha recibido mi mensaje.De ser así, podrá enviarme ahora los últimos tres archivos que me faltan por salvar: [File:White butterfly.jpg], [File:Relation.jpg] y [File:Resting.jpg]. 

Sin más, quedo despedido por ahora, esperando alguna respuesta que confirme si ha recibido o no mi mensaje.

Saludos!

Vicond

Sorry

Sorry...I was wondering if you could transfer this file to Commons...I would be grateful to you for this --Pietro Di Fontana 18:56, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

• That file -- which is a photo I took -- is already on Commons, so I don't know what you are asking for here. - Jmabel ! talk 18:59, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Overview #2 of updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process

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As we mentioned last month, the Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve.

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Today we are starting a broad discussion to define Wikimedia's future role in the world and develop a collaborative strategy to fulfill that role. You are warmly invited to join the conversation.

There are many ways to participate, by joining an existing conversation or starting your own:

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05:02, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Image spam

Joe, can you think of a reason why a paid job like this would exist? Why would somebody want their specific Commons image injected into an ENWP article? - Bri (talk) 19:26, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

• Probably increases your cred as a photographer (there's no doubt that the inclusion of my photos in so many Wikipedia article has done so for me). More directly fungible if your images are watermarked, I guess. I personally have never particularly capitalized on this to get paid photography work, but it was really nice to be honored by Docomomo WeWa, and it's certainly given me far better access to photograph things that would not always allow someone to come in and do so. And as I'm sure can be easily verified, I've been very reticent about adding my photos to articles that already have images unless mine are clear improvements; if in doubt, I tend to mention the availability of my photos on the relevant talk page and more often than not leave it to someone else to make the call.
• But if they get one account to insert a bunch of the another account's images in articles, that's going to come off as a meatpuppet if anyone ever spots it, especially since it sounds like they want someone to do paid editing and not disclose that. - Jmabel ! talk 20:52, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I have watchlisted a few of the dice-related articles and will let you know if I see anything funky. - Bri (talk) 04:01, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Explicit disclaimer of edit?

Hi, Jmabel. I appreciate your image corrections at File:Map of Pioneer Square Historic District - cleaned and corrected.jpg. Thanks, also, for fixing the "other version" that I had dropped (because of a circular link).

Would you care to add a license or disclaimer to your image corrections? That would help downstream use. When I crop or fix a PD image, I tend to use {{Cc0}} for my corrections. Up to you, of course. — hike395 (talk) 03:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

• Sure. I just figured what I did was to minor to change the PD status, but OK. - Jmabel ! talk 04:31, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Panoramio bot operator

I opened a complaint about User:Shizhao and his Panoramio uploads at the Administrators' noticeboard. You are invited to share your personal experience and opinion about this user and his abuse of his bot operator rights. Thanks, --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 10:14, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Copyright Watcher Barnstar

Thank you very much for the quick response regarding the "Copyright help regarding Campoalto.png" enquiry. I don't understand why you had issues getting in the website http://campoalto.edu.py/. It is the official site of the Campoalto School, where you can find the logo I wanted to use for an article related to the school. Nevertheless, as the article will be written in Spanish, I will look to the rules related to that language. Thanks again! Cheers! Regopy Regopy (talk) 00:50, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Catholic Church

Moved to User talk:Grabado#"Roman Catholic" vs. "Catholic" to keep conversation in one place. - Jmabel ! talk 15:44, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

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Duplicate images in the Commons advice

Thank you for the duplicate template for the images of the coronation. Duplicate_images_in_the_Commons I have inserted the template in the lesser quality image. Do I need to go and change all the pages that link to the deprecated image or is this something that is taken up by the editors interested in those pages. I am leery of editing pages that are not in my native languages. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ouvrard (talk • contribs) 20:15, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

• When it's resolved, either name of the deleted image becomes a redirect to the image we keep, or CommonsDelinker will substitute all references in other Wikipedias. Either way, all articles will automatically show the correct image. - Jmabel ! talk 20:31, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you.

Hi Jmabel,

I want to thank you for the good work you do at Commons:Help desk. Keep up the good work. Wikicology (talk) 09:23, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

File permission error

File:Ray Hill.jpg has contradictory information -- it says it was uploaded with permission of the subject but it also says the uploader has released it. I'm not sure what tag to use, or if I should just tag it for deletion? - Bri (talk) 20:29, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

• @Bri: Have you asked the uploader for clarification? They did turn on the email feature. If the uploader is the photographer (as claimed), there is nothing wrong (though maybe redundant) with indicating that you had the subject's permission. The subject would have only personality rights, not copyright. But I'm guessing (from the small resolution and from the fact that this person has no other contributions on Commons) that the uploader is not the photographer. So you could go straight to nominating for deletion, or you could first discuss with the uploader. - Jmabel ! talk 22:36, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Rodin Museum

RE File:Rodin Museum - Joy of Museums - The Secret 2.jpg Hi, This is now fixed, In the description I added: "Rodin Museum in Philadelphia". Sorry, I am trying to learn how to use the Talk Function? Not sure if this is how I respond? Thanks for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by GordonMakryllos (talk • contribs) 10:37, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for organizing Category:The Grotto (Portland, Oregon) by creating some helpful subcategories. -Another Believer (talk) 15:04, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

• You're very welcome. If you can improve on what I did, feel free. - Jmabel ! talk 16:56, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Category:Memorial_benches

Memorial benches has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

Andy Mabbett (talk) 10:46, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Exactly a copyright issue

The disputed work lacked some evidences to fulfill Angloa's FOP law. Do you really believe that it's not a copyright issue? See this and this. --Mhhossein ^talk 12:31, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

• A requirement to name the author is the same requirement as the completely acceptable attribution requirement of CC-BY. And a requirement to "respect the work" seems very analogous to personality rights. Yes, we would need the photographer's permission, I did not realize that the uploader was not the photographer, that hadn't been stated. - Jmabel ! talk 14:36, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

I just wanna say that

	I just wanna say that
	I like Wikimedia Commons more than Wikipedia. Chyah (talk) 08:42, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

thank you

	thank you
	thank you. Շաքէ Մանկասարեան (talk) 14:42, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Scads of phone images uploaded without proper permissions

Joe: not sure what to do about the many uploads by user:GalaxyOptimus, is there a procedure for mass nomination? Bri (talk) 04:32, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

• @Bri: Yes, there is such a procedure—Commons:Deletion requests/Mass deletion request—though I suspect some of these should be {{PD-ineligible}}. If you have VisualFileChange it's a lot easier to do. - Jmabel ! talk 04:40, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks Joe. It was a pain but I created Commons:Deletion requests/Files of User:GalaxyOptimus by hand. Bri (talk) 22:08, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
    • Gaack. If this sort of thing comes up again, I really recommend VisualFileChange. - Jmabel ! talk 22:48, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
      • I don't see any rationale for the undos of my noms by User:Dienthoaiquangcao37 like [2] can you shed any light Joe? Or maybe they will respond here... Bri (talk) 05:33, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
        • @Bri: Absolutely no rationale, and given that the DR is still in progress, this is vandalism. It appears to be a new account, and half of its edits seem to be reversions of you. If I were in your shoes I would first contact the user on their user talk page and ask what is going on here, and unless you get a much better answer than I'd expect, you should take this to COM:AN/U. - Jmabel ! talk 05:40, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks again. this was the result. Now I'll go back and un-revert all my noms, I guess *sigh* Bri (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Category:Watercolor_paintings_by_Jorge_Blanco_Mena_(Artistmena)

Watercolor paintings by Jorge Blanco Mena (Artistmena) has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

Gibooks (talk) 23:26, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Duplicate check

Joe, I have another favor to ask. Could you do a quick check on File:Rahil-hesan.jpg uploaded by Cyberads vs File:Rahil Hesan in Yarevan.jpg uploaded by EngiZe? I just want to know if they are the same image for an SPI on ENWP. Thx - Bri (talk) 04:13, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

• Entirely different images. Probably not even the same woman. - Jmabel ! talk 04:17, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
• Comparing against images of her here and here (third image on right), if File:Rahil Hesan in Yarevan.jpg is Hesan, then it is a very uncomplimentary photo. - Jmabel ! talk 04:27, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

File:EMP Pop Conference Seattle 2013 - morning Ignite talks 03.jpg

File:EMP Pop Conference Seattle 2013 - morning Ignite talks 03.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:48, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Andrienne Pilapil 01.jpg

File:Andrienne Pilapil 01.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:13, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Beth Warshaw-Duncan & Andrienne Pilapil 01.jpg

File:Beth Warshaw-Duncan & Andrienne Pilapil 01.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:14, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello from Sebastian

Hi Jmabel, nice to meet you again here. How's it going? As for the difference between our search results, I was searching for "undelete", while you searched for "undeletion". SebastianHelm (talk) 12:56, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Orthodox vs. Oriental Orthodox categories

Hello,

Despite the name, Oriental Orthodox is not a subset in any way of something wider that would be called "Orthodoxy". The Oriental Orthodox separated around the 5th century from what is now Catholic and Orthodox Christianity, and are a different faith. When used alone, as is most often the case in Commons, the term "Orthodox" is synonymous with "Eastern Orthodox". I try to correct it any time I find wrongful or duplicate categories, but categories are mostly coherent that way.

You would not confuse Jewish Orthodox or orthodox Marxists with Orthodox Christianity just because they have "orthodox" in their name. Place Clichy 07:13, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Commons Conference project

Hello

I'm writing you as one of the most active Commons users right now. Since a while now, the idea of a dedicated Commons conference has been floating around. But since the last Wikimania concrete steps have been taken to actually make it happen next year. If you're interested in participation or maybe willing to help organize the first ever Commons Conference, I invite you to check out the project page and leave your comments; or just show your support for the idea, by signing up.

Cheers,

--Touzrimounir (talk) 22:18, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

• I have already listed myself as interested, but only if I can get a scholarship. - Jmabel ! talk 22:24, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Bowling

I'm trying to order the photos about sports. There are many photos in the main category and i'm creating new categories when it´s necesary, but sometimes I fail, sorry about that. Vanbasten 23 (talk) 06:14, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Commons:Village pump/Copyright

Hi Joe!

Thanks for correcting my spelling here! However, I do not understand your simultaneous "correction" of an exterior link. After your change, following the link yielded a 404 error (for me; I'm using Firefox). I changed back, and now all works well again (for me). Does the link work now, for you? JoergenB (talk) 19:37, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

• @JoergenB: My apologies! When I searched for "commer" with my browser, I noticed that the search bar just said "ommer", but didn't think about where the stray "c" might have gone! - Jmabel ! talk 21:52, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
  • OK. Glad do have helped you solve one mystery − and you did the same for me. JoergenB (talk) 10:45, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the help about a certain photo...

Hello Jmabel, I come quickly here to say thanks for not loosing your temper about the photo which has missing proof. I see that I will not get around to send a written statement that I am the only copyright holder. But it is so depressing to do that because I have done that already on 17 August with other photos, which had been tagged and got no answer so far... I admit that my temperature rose up again, because except me, no one has the copyright for this new photo. I am new to all this here and I am convinced I do it wrong also the next time. I just do not understand how to do it - with or without Wizard. I would like to upload now a book cover from 1964 and a DVD cover fortwo another pages I am working at. Thank you again for your patience. Best to you Laramie1960 (talk) 12:45, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

• @Laramie1960: There is nothing here to lose temper over. This happens often. Rights issues are tricky, and Commons is more than typically careful about them.
• No answer in 3-1/2 weeks is not good, but not uncommon: a small number of people handle the OTRS requests, and they often have a backlog of weeks, especially for things that they can't simply resolve in a minute or so.
• Again: on the image in question, you say, "I just do not understand how to do it", have you read Commons:OTRS? Is there something in particular there that you don't understand? I can answer specific questions, but "I don't understand" is much to general for anyone to answer.
• Unless you are the copyright holder for the book cover & DVD cover in question, or have verifiable permission from that person, or the designs are so simple as not to be eligible for copyright, then please don't upload them to Commons. It is quite possible that you can upload them directly to the English-language Wikipedia (etc.) on a fair-use basis if there are articles about them that need them as illustrations. You might get a look at en:Wikipedia:Plain_and_simple_non-free_content_guide and en:Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Images; all of this applies to the English-language Wikipedia; no non-free images are acceptable on Commons.
• On the English-language Wikipedia you would want to use en:Template:Non-free use rationale book cover and en:Template:Non-free use rationale album cover, respectively. - Jmabel ! talk 15:18, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello Jmabel, I am sorry to come only now to thank you for your answer and helpful suggestions. I admit I had completely forgotten to answer you because for days I was concerned about getting it right with that photo. I followed your suggestion and wrote to OTRS. I did at first not understand how to do it, and you may know how it is when something seems alien ;-) They were very nice ant OTRS and helpful and the photo can now stay where it is. I am very happy about that. Also I am getting now answer to that first Ticket. I am afraid that for the photo in the article, that French newspaper will never answer me. I called Le Figaro today and had to talk on the answering machine! I wrote then a message. I gave them all the necessary information, because I have that article myself. It is just that I would have loved to add that photo, showing the author in her garden, writing. Thanks again for your help, kind Regards Laramie1960 (talk) 16:50, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks...iv uploaded it at Jmabel Chidinma0025 (talk) 12:17, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Appreciation for asking the right questions

Thanks for asking the right questions at Commons:Village pump § Requiring reuploads (and revdel) of previously violated freely licensed works?. It has helped a lot to express my point. 2001:2003:54FA:2751:0:0:0:1 05:40, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

• You are very welcome. - Jmabel ! talk 14:43, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

ultima_foto_caricata_no_copiryght

Concerning this discussion of the photo that the questioner claimed to have taken with himself in it: Yes, you're quite right. I find it not impossible, but quite unlikely that they took it themself with a shutter delay. And I apologize

1. for my delay here. I don't visit the Commons that often and only just now got notification of your reply, too late for me to answer you in the now-archived discussion.
2. for my original failure to look at the pic before commenting on it.

--Thnidu (talk) 22:32, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

• @Thnidu: No problem, and no offense was taken. - Jmabel ! talk 22:53, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Book cover on Commons

File:Coffee Melts Bars by Rabbi Fishel Jacobs.jpg was uploaded by a person claiming to be the author of the book. However the Amazon preview shows that it was outsourced to "Pradeep Cover Design". What should be done? I know that book covers don't usually belong here. The same person uploaded two other book covers claiming authorship which seems ... unlikely for one of them. Bri (talk) 23:41, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

• If it had prior publication that was not under the same free license (or where we can't verify), they need to go through OTRS even if it is the same person. Assuming the book is self-published, imaginably there could still be an issue if the rights weren't correctly signed over by the cover designer (remember that publishers do usually get copyrights signed over), but I think the OTRS people would follow up on what they need if they think there is doubt about that. - Jmabel ! talk 23:57, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyright Watcher Barnstar
	Hello Jmabel, I think I like to award you with this barnstar. You put me in the right direction, even if I was at first totally annoyed that the photo was rejected. I learned a lot about copyrights. Thanks again, best to you. Laramie1960 (talk) 16:53, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks! - Jmabel ! talk 18:41, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Email notice

Hi there! Heads up that I've sent you an email. Thanks, ~Kevin Payravi (talk) 00:01, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Another copyright q

Hi again Joe! I'm helping a newer editor on ENWP with her third DYK and wanted to see if we could find a PD image for the article. I think I found an eligible one here. If you look at the front and the back of the postcard there's no copyright date. Due to the birth date of the animal (1958) and the owner (1924), I don't think it's possible it was taken as late as 1978. Do you think it would pass muster as a PD upload to Commons on this basis alone? We could do more research to see if we can find when the horse had sired not more than 13 champions, but that may be a bridge too far for the DYK. It died in 1985 so I could also see if Dukane Press ever applied to the LOC for copyright after issuance of the postcard. Bri (talk) 23:32, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

• I think that's probably fine, but someone else might disagree. Maybe take the question to Commons:Village pump/Copyright? - Jmabel ! talk 23:35, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks. In the meantime I've scanned the Catalog of Copyright Entries for nearly every year between 1967 and 1978, and Dukane Press never registered a single thing. Bri (talk) 23:51, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

1959 Plymouth Special Deluxe Convertible?

Your images of an alleged "1959 Plymouth Special Deluxe Convertible," are if anything of a 1949 Plymouth Special Deluxe Convertible. I just thought you should know that. ----DanTD (talk) 13:49, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

• You're right. I misread the note attached to the dash (which fortunately I photographed and could check). - Jmabel ! talk 15:45, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Structured Commons newsletter, October 25, 2017

Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Community updates

• Rama published an article about Structured Commons in Arbido, a Swiss online magazine for archivists, librarians and documentalists: original in French, illustrated and the article translated in English.
• We now have a dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd ^webchat

Things to do / input and feedback requests

• Join the community focus group!
• Translation. Do you want to help out translating messages about Structured Data on Commons from English to your own language? Sign up on the translators page.
• The documentation and info pages about Structured Data on Commons have received a thorough update, in order to get them ready for all the upcoming work. Obsolete pages were archived. There are undoubtedly still a lot of omissions and bits that are unclear. You can help by editing boldly, and by leaving feedback and tips on the talk pages.
• We have started to list tools, gadgets and bots that might be affected by Structured Commons in order to prepare for a smooth transition to the new situation. You can help by adding alerts about/to specific tools and developers on the dedicated tools page. You can also create Phabricator tasks to help keep track of this. Volunteers and developers interested in helping out with this process are extremely welcome - please sign up!
• Help write the next Structured Commons newsletter.

Presentations / Press / Events

Audience at Structured Commons design discussion, Wikimania 2017

• Structured Data on Commons was presented at Wikimania 2017 in Montréal for a packed room. First design sketches for search functionality were discussed during a breakout session. Read the Etherpad reports of the presentation and the breakout session.
• Katherine Maher, Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation, answered questions on Quora. One of her answers, mentioning Structured Data on Commons, was republished on Huffington Post.
• Sandra Fauconnier, Amanda Bittaker and Ramsey Isler from the Structured Commons team will be at WikidataCon. Sandra presents Structured Commons there (with a focus on fruitful collaboration between the Wikidata and Commons communities). If you attend the conference, don't hesitate to say hi and have a chat with us! (phabricator task T176858)

Team updates

The Structured Commons team at Wikimania 2017

Two new people have been hired for the Structured Data on Commons team. We are now complete! :-)

• Ramsey Isler is the new Product Manager of the Multimedia team.
• Pamela Drouin was hired as User Interface Designer. She works at the Multimedia team as well, and her work will focus on the Structured Commons project.

Partners and allies

• We are still welcoming (more) staff from GLAMs (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) to become part of our long-term focus group (phabricator task T174134). You will be kept in the loop of the project, and receive regular small surveys and requests for feedback. Get in touch with Sandra if you're interested - your input in helping to shape this project is highly valued!

Research

Design research is ongoing.

• Jonathan Morgan and Niharika Ved have held interviews with various GLAM staff about their batch upload workflows and will finish and report on these in this quarter. (phabricator task T159495)
• At this moment, there is also an online survey for GLAM staff, Wikimedians in Residence, and GLAM volunteers who upload media collections to Wikimedia Commons. The results will be used to understand how we can improve this experience. (phabricator task T175188)
• Upcoming: interviews with Wikimedia volunteers who curate media on Commons (including tool developers), talking about activities and workflows. (phabricator task T175185)

Development

In Autumn 2017, the Structured Commons development team works on the following major tasks (see also the quarterly goals for the team):

• Getting Multi-Content Revisions sufficiently ready, so that the Multimedia and Search Platform teams can start using it to test and prototype things.
• Determine metrics and metrics baseline for Commons (phabricator task T174519).
• The multimedia team at WMF is gaining expertise in Wikibase, and unblocking further development for Structured Commons, by completing the MediaInfo extension for Wikibase.

Stay up to date!

• Follow the Structured Data on Commons project on Phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/34/
• Subscribe to this newsletter to receive it on a talk page of your own choice.
• Join the next IRC office hour and ask questions to the team! It takes place on Tuesday 21 November, 18.00 UTC.

Warmly, your community liaison, SandraF (WMF) (talk)

Message sent by MediaWiki message delivery - 14:26, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

On recent village pump

I think you missed that all those photos are not the own work of uploader as they appear on other websites, or contain derivative works. I am nominating. Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:25, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

• Feel free. I was only addressing the question raised, that they were self-promotional. The person who posted didn't say anything about them being possible copyright violations. - Jmabel ! talk 17:39, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Taken on

Hello Jmabel. There was a long discussion about this category and the consensus was that if there were more than ten files in the 'Taken on' category that it is desirable to place files in a country specific category to reduce the size of the specific day category, But this seems to be a guide line and not a community standard now, so I would say either way is correct. Kolforn (talk) 09:02, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

File:Solstice Parade 2013 - 097 (9146272003).jpg

File:Solstice Parade 2013 - 097 (9146272003).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Mef.ellingen (talk) 22:56, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

File:Bucureşti - Biserica Sfântul Elefterie.jpg

Hi ! OK I will did it with the pictures also. With the maps I must already do it, except if, as Bourrichon, the first uploader accept the improving of his document. Wishes, --Julieta39 (talk) 10:33, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Reply

Reply pls 92.2.67.111 03:19, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

• Reply to what? - Jmabel ! talk 05:23, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

copyright

someone has asked me for copyright info even though the image is not complex — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uby8776 (talk • contribs) 13:08, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

• @Uby8776: I have no idea what image you are talking about here. Please give me some context. - Jmabel ! talk 17:41, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Presumably the no-source tag on File:Inceldom_flag.png. Uby8776, even if the design is not copyrightable (which depends on the country of origin), it‘s important for users to know where it came from. If you created the image yourself you can say so, but it would still be good to link to somewhere it‘s identified or shown in use as something other than a personal, proposed or fictional flag (of which there are plenty here).—Odysseus1479 (talk) 18:25, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Its from here https://beyond-mogai-pride-flags.tumblr.com/post/148910576285/incel-flag Uby8776 (talk) 18:28, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Structured Commons newsletter, December 13, 2017

Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Community updates

• There was a IRC Office Hour about Structured Commons on November 21. You can read the log here.
• Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd ^webchat

Things to do / input and feedback requests

A multi-licensed image on Wikimedia Commons, with a custom {{EthnologyItemMHNT}} Information template. Do you also know media files on Commons that will be interesting or challenging to model with structured data? Add them to the Interesting Commons files page.

• NEW: Participate in a survey that helps us prioritize which tools are important for the Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata communities. The survey runs until December 22. Here's some background.
• NEW: Help the team decide on better names for 'captions' and 'descriptions'. You can provide input until January 3, 2018.
• NEW: Help collect interesting Commons files, to prepare for the data modelling challenges ahead! Continuous input is welcome.
• Join the community focus group!
• Do you want to translate messages and information about Structured Data on Commons from English to your own language? Sign up on the translators page.

Presentations / Press / Events

Presentation about Structured Commons and Wikidata, at WikimediaCon in Berlin.

• Sandra presented the plans for Structured Commons during WikidataCon in Berlin, on October 29. The presentation focused on collaboration between the Wikidata and Commons communities. You can see the full video here.

Partners and allies

• We are still welcoming (more) staff from GLAMs (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) to become part of our long-term focus group (phabricator task T174134). You will be kept in the loop of the project, and receive regular small surveys and requests for feedback. Get in touch with Sandra if you're interested - your input in helping to shape this project is highly valued!

Research

• Research findings from interviews and surveys of GLAM project participants are being published to the research page. Check back over the next few weeks as additional details (notes, quotes, charts, blog posts, and slide decks) will be added to or linked from that page.

Development

• The Structured Commons team has written and submitted a report about the first nine months of work on the project to its funders, the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. The 53-page report, published on November 1, is available on Wikimedia Commons.
• The team has started working on designs for changes to the upload wizard (T182019).
• We started preliminary work to prototype changes for file info pages.
• Work on the MediaInfo extension is ongoing (T176012).
• The team is continuing its work on baseline metrics on Commons, in order to be able to measure the effectiveness of structured data on Commons. (T174519)
• Upcoming: in the first half of 2018, the first prototypes and design sketches for file pages, the UploadWizard, and for search will be published for discussion and feedback!

Stay up to date!

• Follow the Structured Data on Commons project on Phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/34/
• Subscribe to this newsletter to receive it on a talk page of your own choice.
• Join the next IRC office hour and ask questions to the team! It takes place on Tuesday, February 13, 18.00 UTC in wikimedia-office ^webchat.

Warmly, your community liaison, SandraF (WMF) (talk)

Message sent by MediaWiki message delivery - 16:32, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy new year

	2017
	Happy new year Jmabel! Rafic.Mufid (talk) 14:12, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

icon needed

hi Jmabel!, i need an icon like File:Iraqfilm.png, for Yemen, for Template:Videos from Yemen by year. Can you help me?--Rafic.Mufid (talk) 12:20, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

• @Rafic.Mufid:
• Convenience link: File:Iraqfilm.png.
• It's really File:Iraqfilm.svg you should use as a basis, because that will scale up and down better.
• You'll want to make a request at Commons:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop. - Jmabel ! talk 16:20, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

File:Ballard Kadampa Buddhist Temple interior 02.jpg

File:Ballard Kadampa Buddhist Temple interior 02.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

VictoriaGrayson (talk) 23:25, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Your translation attempt in Template:User extendeduploader

Hey, Joe, in your translation attempt you’ve added a pair of braces too much (after English part) which broke the LangSwitch template. I’ve fixed it together with a spurious bracket after the web link. More important it would be to update the upper part for Spanish. Move it above the comment sign after the German part and fix it, for Spanish there has seemingly only renombrador{{gender:{{BASEPAGENAME}}||a}} de archivos to be replaced (I actually do not get why there is some color styling). — Speravir – 17:10, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Question about toys that are not obviously toys

Hello, in regards to this deletion request, I will admit right upfront that I'm not particularly familiar with the multitude of policies and guidelines that govern image files here on Commons. With respect to that image, and now five others (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) I've found just like it, (all from the same Flikr account), I do know that;
they are labeled as "RCMP... ", some of them display the RCMP's official logo, their doesn't appear to be any permission from the RCMP to use the images, and lastly, but most importantly, these are not RCMP officers, they aren't even real people, they are toys. Dolls. 12-inch action figures. I'm not necessarily contesting their inclusion on any wiki-media, (I don't consider myself a deletionist). If there are no rights violations and they can be retained, then at the very least, they should be renamed. So what I'd like to ask is, how can I determine if they are permissible? And if so, how do I go about renaming them? Again, I not familiar with Commons, and how similar or different it is from Wikipedia. Any assistance you can offer here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Thewolfchild (talk) 21:29, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

• @Thewolfchild: Changing the descriptions is probably more important than changing the names. You can do that exactly as readily as anyone else.
• To request renames, I suggest {{Requested move}} {{Rename}} (wrong wiki)!, and remember to use the "reason" parameter.
• These may yet be deleted. Images of toys are often (but not always) deemed to be copyright violations.
• Would you mind if I renamed this section with a better header than "Question"? That's pretty vague. - Jmabel ! talk 06:13, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

• OK, I'll take a look at the descriptions.
• What do I do about the deletion request, if I want to do a rename? Should I wait to see if they're deleted? (as you say they might be), Wait for that request to close? Go ahead with the rename request immediately?
  • (also, is ((Requested move)) mandatory? on WP we can just go ahead and move articles if it's uncontroversial)
    • Renaming is much more of a big deal on Commons than on WP, because of the importance of file name stability. Again, it's usually much more important to have the description accurate than the filename, which is rather arbitrary. - Jmabel ! talk 18:26, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
• They're definitely toys, either "One Sixth Warriors" or another brand of these types of realistic-looking action dolls.
• You can rename this to anything you like, it's you're talk page. (I hope you don't mind that I fixed the 'ping' template, tht 'error' notice was distracting) Thank you for the reply and the assistance. I can't believe that pictures of toys labeled as a specific police service's SWAT team were able to make it into these projects, actually get posted to articles and go undetected this long. I'm hope we can get this resolved soon. Thanks again Thewolfchild (talk) 17:30, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

• Hold up - please disregard my previous comments/question. The image has since been deleted so it looks like this whole situation is getting resolved. But thanks again. Thewolfchild (talk) 17:41, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Glad to know the Gordian knot was cut. - Jmabel ! talk 18:26, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Photo vs Illustration

I did not draw the photo of my dear friend I took the photo as I stated yesterday...........Photo was B/W I worked on it to suit the subject.........that was likely the last photo taken as he passed suddenly little time later........

William b Grice — Preceding unsigned comment added by William B. Grice (talk • contribs) 17:31, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

• The photo is of a drawing. The issue is the copyright of the drawing. If you disagree, please make your comments in the relevant deletion discussion, not my talk page. Nothing you say here will have any effect on the decision whether to delete. - Jmabel ! talk 20:32, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Likely error in the description of one of your files

Greetings Jmabel

I noticed one of your uploads: File:Maryhill Museum - silver filigreed casket given as a wedding gift to Crown Prince Ferdinand and the future Queen Marie of Romania 01.jpg

Would you mind rechecking your source for the identification with King Ferdinand I and Queen Marie of Romania? This identification seems unlikely to me.

The front of the casket features a rendition of the coat of arms of Serbia's Karađorđević dynasty (i.e. the coat of arms of Serbia). The heads of the bicephalic eagle must have been broken off, but its body and shield with the cross and four firesteels is still visible. I can't read the text below, but the inscription's date 8 June 1922 fits with the date that Maria of Romania married King Alexander I of Yugoslavia, so I presume that someone might have confused two members of Romanian royalty with similar sounding names.

Best regards Valentinian ^{T / C} 11:38, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Valentinian: It's imaginable that I have this wrong. I was going by the labels in the museum but (1) they could have it wrong, (2) I could have misread it, (3) I could have failed to make a note, since I didn't upload instantly.

As you probably know, the museum at Maryhill has a massive collection of materials given to them by Queen Marie of Romania, mostly from Cotroceni Palace. If the object is what you say it is—as it well may be—it's not obvious how Marie would have had it to give to them, though it's not impossible.

I don't really have any further information, and the museum is a day's drive from where I live, so it isn't near enough for me to go by and check; no idea when I'll next be there, and it could be years. Unless the object is shown somewhere on the museum's site (it was not at the time, but could be now), probably the best course of action would be to contact the museum, which I will do at some point, though who knows if/when they'll respond. For now, unless you object, I'm inclined to just add your remark & say that the identification is uncertain. Would that be OK? - Jmabel ! talk 15:24, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Your solution sounds fine with me. I merely noticed the photo but coudn't make the description fit with the object. I didn't know of this collection beforehand, but I had a look at its website, but unfortunately I found no information about this item. I've occationally photographed museum pieces myself, and personally, I rely on an additional photo of the sign next to the item to avoid spending too much time taking notes.

Best regards.

Valentinian ^{T / C} 18:16, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Valentinian: I've now heard from the museum. You were entirely correct. Moved to File:Maryhill Museum - silver filigreed casket given as a wedding gift to Alexander and Maria of Yugoslavia in 1922.jpg and some more remarks added, including the provenance. - Jmabel ! talk 21:12, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Valentinian: Wow, it is really interesting to see how you corrected this. You spoke up, Jmabel wrote to the museum, and now the description box is fixed. Thanks for taking the time to fix this. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:27, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback to both of you. I'm very pleased to hear that the museum actually found the input useful and rechecked its records. Even without knowing the credentials of the person, Jmabel was quoting (in fact, I have a degree in history). Very interesting to see a case where the feedback system actually worked. Best regards. Valentinian ^{T / C} 19:37, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Protection request - personal attacks

Rgd [3], thanks. Could I ask for my userpage to be protected? I have "fans". Bri (talk) 01:02, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

• @Bri: Would semi-protected do? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you have the privileges on Commons that would let you edit your own user page if it were protected! And certainly the talk page shouldn't be more than semi-protected, since otherwise it becomes pretty useless as a way to leave you messages.
• Anyway, I'm about to head out right now, so probably ask at COM:AN if you want this to happen quickly; I won't be back on here the next few hours. - Jmabel ! talk 01:07, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

I forgot about this thread, sorry! Yes of course I meant semi protected. Bri (talk) 20:09, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry. If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

• File:Coming into New London at night 01 (9360699299).jpg

And also:

• File:Coming into New London at night 01-raw (9360695769).jpg
• File:Coming into New London at night 02 (9360697417).jpg
• File:Coming into New London at night 02-raw (9360696757).jpg

Yours sincerely, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:31, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Spring 2018

Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter and contribute to the next issue. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Community updates

• Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd ^webchat
• Several Commons community members are working on ways to integrate Wikidata in Wikimedia Commons. While this is not full-fledged structured data yet, this work helps to prepare for future conversion of data, and helps to understand how Wikidata and Commons can work better together.
  • Thanks to Jarekt and other contributors, some Commons templates can now be filled via Wikidata: {{Creator}} (Phabricator) and {{Institution}} (Phabricator). Work is ongoing on the {{Artwork}} template (Phabricator).
  • Thanks to Mike Peel and others, Wikidata-powered infoboxes can now be added to Commons categories, with the template {{Wikidata Infobox}}. (Example)
  • Multichill is working on an experimental workflow to upload images to Commons via Wikidata (and using metadata from Wikidata). See a part of it here.

Things to do / input and feedback requests

• Join the community focus group!
• Do you want to help out translating messages about Structured Data on Commons from English to your own language? Sign up on the translators page.
• Contribute to the next newsletter.

Discussions held

• Conversation about licensing and copyright modeling.
• High-level discussion on ontology for Commons.
• Review first designs for multilingual captions.
• IRC office hour, 13 February

Events

• Wikimedia Conference, Berlin, 20-22 April (+ Learning Days 18-19 April): several sessions and workshops around Structured Commons
• EuropeanaTech Conference, Rotterdam, 15-16 May: several presentations + a full workshop day on Monday 14 May about Wikidata and Structured Commons
• Wikimedia Hackathon, Barcelona, 18-20 May: Structured Commons as a focus area.

Partners and allies

• We are still welcoming (more) staff from GLAMs (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) to become part of our long-term focus group (phabricator task T174134). You will be kept in the loop of the project, and receive regular small surveys and requests for feedback. Get in touch with Sandra if you're interested - your input in helping to shape this project is highly valued!

Research

• The research about GLAM contributions to Wikimedia Commons is concluded. A blog post on the Wikimedia blog provides a summary, and you can read the full results on meta.wikimedia.org.

Development

• Prototypes will be available for Multilingual Captions soon.

Stay up to date!

• Follow the Structured Data on Commons project on Phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/34/
• Subscribe to this newsletter to receive it on a talk page of your own choice.
• Join the next IRC office hour and ask questions to the team! The date for next quarter will be announced soon.

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk)

Message sent by MediaWiki message delivery - 19:48, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

taken on

I´m so sorry, my only objective was to reduce the number of photographs per day by categorizing them by country but I will not remove it then. --Isaacvp (talk) 21:18, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

• @Isaacvp: Thanks. There's a pretty strong consensus to keep that "flat". - Jmabel ! talk 01:05, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

WMCON Lightning Talks

Hi,

See meta:Wikimedia Conference 2018/Program/51. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 15:49, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality

Hi, Your proposal is useful, but I would use a different strategy to implement this as a policy here: 1. Copy the text here as an essay or a draft. 2. Ask people to help editing and adapt it for Commons. 3. Ask for a vote once we see some consensus emerging. Regards, Yann (talk) 09:34, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

• @Yann: Please feel free to do that. I was just trying to see if we have anything approximating a consensus to move forward. - Jmabel ! talk 13:54, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

File:Bicycle in Ueno Park 01 (15133038333).jpg

File:Bicycle in Ueno Park 01 (15133038333).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Zenwort (talk) 21:33, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

English Wikipedia

I left a note on your ENWP user talkpage. Bri (talk) 17:28, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Barnstar for you!

		The Commons Barnstar
		For the magnificent job you've made of Commons:Wikidata infobox help. I think this is incredibly valuable, and is going to help so many people. Thank you!!! Jheald (talk) 12:06, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Just read it again. Really nice coverage and flow. Five stars! Jheald (talk) 14:18, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! - Jmabel ! talk 15:14, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

ENWP main page, congrats

Your image of More Hall Annex in Seattle is on the main page of the English Wikipedia right now. Bri (talk) 02:14, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

• @Bri: Cool. Thanks for letting me know! - Jmabel ! talk 04:02, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Request for deletion of own file

Hi Joe,

may you please help my getting my own file quickly deleted?

Regards Leoclerc (talk) 17:04, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

• @Leoclerc: In the future, please don't start a deletion discussion if you want a speedy deletion! A deletion discussion is supposed to stay open for at least a week to allow multiple views to be expressed. I'll try to work around this all, but if you want speedy deletion, use {{Speedy}} or something similar. - Jmabel ! talk 17:14, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Now I've filed a "speedy" and excluded my del. req. from the daily list.--Leoclerc (talk) 17:17, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

@Leoclerc: I've deleted the image, but, please, removing from the daily list was a bad change, which hides the rationale as to why I granted you a speedy deletion despite having a discussion that was supposed to stay open for a week! I'll undo that. - Jmabel ! talk 17:23, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Maschbau.svg

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Maschbau.svg

• Provides the header for the top of an archived deletion request. Must be used together with DeletionFooter.--BevinKacon (talk) 20:36, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
  • I typed {{Delf}}, no idea what might have happened. - Jmabel ! talk

Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Summer 2018

Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter and contribute to the next issue. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Community updates

• Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd ^webchat
• Since our last newsletter, the Structured Data team has moved into designing and building prototypes for various features. The use of multilingual captions in the UploadWizard and on the file page has been researched, designed, discussed, and built out for use. Behind the scenes, back-end work on search is taking place and designs are being drawn up for the front-end. There will soon be specifications published for the use of the first Wikidata property on Commons, "Depicts," and a prototype is to be released to go along with that.

Things to do / input and feedback requests

• A workshop on what Wikidata properties Commons will need. This workshop will be open for the entire month of July 2018 at minimum.

• Join the community focus group!
• Do you want to help out translating messages about Structured Data on Commons from English to your own language? Sign up on the translators page.
• Contribute to the next newsletter.

Discussions held

• In late February there was a discussion around how Commons generally sees data being modeled.

• The first discussion on copyright and licensing with Commons was held in March. This was a "high level" discussion, there will be a consultation later this summer about the deeper mapping of copyright and licensing in a structured way.
• In April there was an exercise for GLAM partners in metadata and ontology mapping.
• A discussion about the design for Multilingual Captions on the file page took place in May. You can still review the designs and leave feedback.
• There was an IRC office hour in June to discuss progress so far and future plans.

Wikimania 2018

• Three sessions about Structured Commons are officially scheduled for Wikimania 2018 - Cape Town, South Africa - July 2018.
  • Wikimedia Commons and GLAM needs around the world (Friday 20 July, 10:30 local time)
  • Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons and knowledge equity (Friday 20 July, 14:00 local time)
  • Design challenge workshop: How can multilingual structured metadata bring knowledge equity to Commons? (Friday 20 July, 14:30 local time)
• Structured Data on Commons is also a focus area during the Wikimania 2018 Hackathon. We will, among other things, do 'live' modelling of Wikidata properties for Commons - an offline spin-off of the community consultation taking place on wiki.

Partners and allies

• We are still welcoming (more) staff from GLAMs (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) to become part of our long-term focus group (phabricator task T174134). You will be kept in the loop of the project, and receive regular small surveys and requests for feedback. Get in touch with Sandra if you're interested - your input in helping to shape this project is highly valued!
• Structured Data on Commons was presented to GLAM audiences during EuropeanaTech 2018 in Rotterdam (15 May 2018) and at the Deutsche Digitale Bibliothek Forum in Berlin (4 June 2018).

Research

Two research projects about Wikimedia Commons are currently ongoing, or in the process of being finished:

1. Research:Curation workflows on Wikimedia Commons—a project that seeks to understand the current workflows of Commons contributors who curate media (categorize it, delete it, link to it from other projects, etc.).
2. Research:Technical needs of external re-users of Commons media—soliciting feedback from individuals and organizations that re-use Commons content outside of Wikimedia projects, in order to understand their current painpoints and unmet needs.

Development

• Prototypes will be available for Depicts soon.

Stay up to date!

• Follow the Structured Data on Commons project on Phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/34/
• Subscribe to this newsletter to receive it on a talk page of your own choice.
• Join the next IRC office hour and ask questions to the team! The date for next quarter will be announced soon.

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk)

Message sent by MediaWiki message delivery - 21:07, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data Newsletter - Research link fix

Greetings,

The newsletter omitted two interwiki prefixes, breaking the links on non-meta wikis as you might see above. Here are the correct links:

1. m:Research:Curation workflows on Wikimedia Commons—a project that seeks to understand the current workflows of Commons contributors who curate media (categorize it, delete it, link to it from other projects, etc.).
2. m:Research:Technical needs of external re-users of Commons media—soliciting feedback from individuals and organizations that re-use Commons content outside of Wikimedia projects, in order to understand their current painpoints and unmet needs.

My apologies, I hope you find the corrected links helpful.

- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:21, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

With reference to the strategy process

Hi, thanks for your response. Do you want to see answers to these questions on FAQ page? SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 16:58, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

• @SGrabarczuk (WMF): That would be welcome; feel free to reword or to combine with other similar questions, as may be suitable. - Jmabel ! talk 17:14, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
• Are you aware of the fact that on FAQ page, there are questions concerning budgeting, timeline, and other organizational aspects, rather than actual strategic issues? SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 17:19, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
  • No, I haven't looked at the FAQ page, I'm just speaking from what I encountered at the Wikimedia Conference. If you don't think that's an appropriate place to put this, why did you ask me if I wanted it there? - Jmabel ! talk 17:23, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

REVDEL

Hi. It appears you may have pasted the wrong thing into your summary of this edit.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 21:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks. I accidentally pasted from a message to a co-worker. - Jmabel ! talk 22:11, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 02:26, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

File:Nigel Mustafa 10.jpg

File:Nigel Mustafa 10.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Steveqube (talk) 04:53, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

File:Nigel Mustafa 08.jpg

File:Nigel Mustafa 08.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Steveqube (talk) 04:53, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry. If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

• File:Eric Harvey 02.jpg

And also:

• File:2014 Pop Conference - Eric Harvey 02.jpg
• File:2014 Pop Conference - Eric Harvey 01.jpg
• File:Eric Harvey 01.jpg

Yours sincerely, Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 21:31, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Duplicates

Hi Jmabel. After I've uploaded some pictures, I noticed that all of them are duplicates. Could you please help me and delete them? The pictures in question are the last ones loaded by me, all 61 with trains from Romania. Thank you. --Babu (talk) 17:27, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

• @Babu: I don't immediately see any obvious duplicates, though I see some cases of two rather similar images. In those cases, I wouldn't know which to delete.
• If there are really duplicates, mark them with {{Duplicate}} and they will be speedy-deleted.
• If there are recent uploads of yours that aren't exactly duplicates but you want them deleted, mark them with {{speedydelete|G7: accidental upload, uploader requests deletion}}. You might find that easiest to do with VisualFileChange, which I highly recommend. - Jmabel ! talk 18:04, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, I've marked them with {{Duplicate}}. --Babu (talk) 19:04, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Mass nominating copyvios

Everything Bmunir.pak has uploaded is apparent copyvio of a certain Canadian artist. Note this one even has a signature. I suspect a paid job for Halin de Repentigny. What now? Bri (talk) 18:17, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

• @Bri: It's (barely) possible that Bmunir.pak is Halin de Repentigny or (more likely) their authorized agent, in which case all we really need is for this to go through OTRS.
• There are basically two ways to go here. (1) If you think this was probably authorized, then you can contact Bmunir.pak, explain OTRS, and, unless Bmunir.pak is Halin de Repentigny, get a correction of the claim of own work). This is the least confrontational approach, and generally recommended if there is much chance of ultimately getting to keep the content. If they choose not to engage, however, then it becomes necessary, rather than optional, to use the second approach which is... (2) Commons:Deletion requests/Mass deletion request. Make sure to say that the work is clearly copyrighted, that there is no particular reason to think the uploader is the copyright holder, and that keeping these would require OTRS, with email from the actual copyright holder.
• Of course, this all assumes that the images are within Commons' scope. If not, then certainly the second approach is in order, with a statement that besides copyright problems, they appear to be out of scope (and why).
• Let me know if you have further questions. - Jmabel ! talk 20:34, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Well, I filed an SPI that failed but I'm not really inclined to assume GF on this one. So I'll go the second route. Bri (talk) 23:07, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@Bri: I have no idea what an "SPI" is. - Jmabel ! talk 23:16, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) EnWP-speak for COM:RFCU, more or less.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 00:10, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

• Everything got deleted per Commons:Deletion requests/Artwork by Halin de Repentigny on September 6. Then the user just re-uploaded at least three of them on September 14–15. File:Unnamed (1)565.png, File:Papier Mache Mammoth by Halin de Repentigny.png, File:"Canal Sans Fin".png Do they need to be blocked? Bri (talk) 13:52, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • @Bri: Probably, but I don't have time to investigate right now. Could you bring it to COM:AN/U? Thanks. - Jmabel ! talk 15:44, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Re: Cambodian dance

Don't have any particular preferences here, just trying to get Cambodian Americans and Cambodians in Long Beach into categories. Please do whatever you feel is appropriate. Ziggyfan23 (talk) 00:29, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Template:Unsigned

Thank you for using it, but please ensure there is a timestamp.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 02:08, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

• @Jeff G.: Since I don't have my history pages set to UTC, I don't have an easy way to provide an accurate timestamp. - Jmabel ! talk 02:17, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • IIRC you live on the West Coast and use local time PST -0800 or PDT -0700, so you could add 8 or 7 hours to what you see, as I add 5 or 4 on the East Coast. I use User:Jeff G.#Banners as a reference occasionally. We also have a UTCLiveClock Gadget.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 02:27, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Photo

How do I upload a photo Zeenatzeenat (talk) 21:34, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

• @Zeenatzeenat: Commons:Upload is the recommended place to start. - Jmabel ! talk 00:05, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Gull ID

Hi Jmabel - you have File:Gull in flight 01.jpg (et seq.) as Larus occidentalis; to me it looks too pale for that, and suspect it is more likely a hybrid "Olympic Gull" (Western x Glaucous-winged). Any thoughts? Might it be better placed in Category:Hybrid Larus? Thanks! - MPF (talk) 13:25, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

• @MPF: please feel free to make that change and, for that matter, to correct me on birds anywhere you have solid knowledge. I don't particularly know my way around different species of gull. I tend to presume that anything on the Washington & Oregon coasts is an occidentalis, but you are certainly correct that it can be any of a few other species. - Jmabel ! talk 16:07, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Will do (later tonight) - MPF (talk) 17:57, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Note to self

Category:Images from the Asahel Curtis Photo Company Photographs Collection to check Jmabel ! talk 03:59, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kaʻiulani.jpg

Can this be deleted? KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:02, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

• @KAVEBEAR: Done. - Jmabel ! talk 04:15, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Chữ xi

File:01639237255

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ên — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 115.75.23.236 (talk) 19:00, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Your image used by UW

FYI in case you didn't know you're famouser now.

https://green.uw.edu/blog/2015-11/history-uws-own-nuclear-reactor This is your picture of More Hall Annex. Image at top of page, attributon at bottom. Bri.public (talk) 19:37, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks, I've noted it at File talk:U of Washington Nuclear Reactor Building pano 01.jpg.
• I'm guessing I only run across or have brought to my attention about 10-20% of these. - Jmabel ! talk 20:43, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

A Barnstar For You!

		The Original Barnstar
		For your translation effort on File:ARA San Juan.jpg!廣九直通車 (talk) 09:58, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Deletion tag frenzy?

Hello Jmabel! What's going on here? The user hardly ever replies/helps (in a manner that can be understood) people whose images have been tagged by h for speedy deletion. The jist of the matter, in my case, is an assertion that people uploading their own artwork always must use OTRS. I've never been aware of that. Is it new Commons policy? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 11:14, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

• @SergeWoodzing: Nearly incomprehensible to me as well. Somewhat complicated by the following:
  • The uploader is not using the same name he wants to be credited by, nor even one related; the title of the image is not the place to get a credit; the name desired for the credit is not indicated in author or attribution. None of that helps. But I'm not aware of any blanket requirement to provide OTRS for non-photographic uploads. Can Patrick point at anything? - Jmabel ! talk 17:03, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

May I know why you're accusing me of "pointing at anything"? Thanks a lot, --Patrick Rogel (talk) 17:14, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

@Patrick Rogel: I'm not accusing you of pointing at something. I've said you need to point at a policy that backs up a claim that there is a blanket requirement to provide OTRS for non-photographic uploads if you are going to assert such a thing. - Jmabel ! talk 17:27, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

I've never assert such a thing and it seems SergeWoodzing has misunderstood my words (he admits my "replies are incomprehensible" to him). I've told him that, "the reply has been" refering to the reply by the Administrators. But I've should have added "in this particuliar case". Yours, --Patrick Rogel (talk) 21:37, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

@Patrick Rogel: In the linked diff you write, '…"Will OTRS be required for all users who upload their own artwork?" : the reply has been "Yes"…'. That seems like a pretty clear statement that someone with authority has said that OTRS is required for all users who upload their own artwork. If that isn't what you meant then, like SergeWoodzing, I must be misunderstanding you, and perhaps you could put this differently. If that is what you meant, you should be able to cite where this was said. - Jmabel ! talk 22:08, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Am I way off track here? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 03:09, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Obviously, I agree with you that we should not aggressively try to get rid of images that are almost certainly entirely legal just because someone failed to strictly follow process. Unfortunately, some users are very rules-centered and reductionist, failing to use good judgment and willing to ignore the reasons those rules were created, and equally unfortunately it is very hard to win against someone who is slavishly following the formal written rules: by definition, the formal written rules will be on their side. - Jmabel ! talk 04:17, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

OK, thx, but where is the formal written rule to support 7-day-delete tagging of images where OTRS is needed? And is there no formal written rule that says users are supposed to be given a fair chance to fix such things? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 11:34, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

@SergeWoodzing: It's an inconvenient conjunction of separate rules: (1) the one that says that if something is previously published elsewhere without the relevant free license, or if it is unpublished and there is no any plausible doubt about the uploader being the author we need OTRS; (2) the one that sets up a 7-day cycle DRs. Then combine that with the OTRS backlog. I think the tagging as "no permission" is simply egregious, and anything like this can always be turned to a DR discussion if it's so tagged, but as I understand it there is no penalty against someone for repeatedly doing such tagging when they ought to go to DR, unless it can be shown they've done so in bad faith, which is very hard to demonstrate. - Jmabel ! talk 16:44, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Do you know if this specific problem has been assessed yet for bad faith and/or serious damage to this project? To me, a look at Rogel's talk page warrants serious concern. The amount of objections to his method and the lack of constructive replies. In only noticed the problem due to his incomprehensible (or cavalier?) replies to me in the one instance. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 09:29, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

I don't see any sign of bad faith on his part, just disagreement over the relative weight of the importance of various policies. - Jmabel ! talk 17:35, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

OK, thank you. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 17:21, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

I am sorry to bug you again about the same thing, but does daily the activity here really reflect what's normal & acceptable? I've never seen anything anywhere near like it. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 00:52, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

• @SergeWoodzing: I see almost no activity on that page in the last 24 hours, so I have no idea what exactly you are referring to. But I'm about to be unavailable the next 12 hours or so, so if something needs immediate attention please bring it to Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard rather than to me individually. - Jmabel ! talk 05:05, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

I just reacted to it appearing on my watchlist every day with new confused and sad entries (3 today only) from other users, who often get no replies & who I assumed are very troubled about the quick-deletion-versus-OTRS-backlog scheme. May have been sloppy in checking on it all more carefully. Sorry. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:56, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

University of Washington Batch Uploads

There's a page for managing the batch uploads from the University of Washington at Commons:Batch uploading/University of Washington Digital Collections. I just wanted to point you to it in case it helps you, since you're doing a lot of awesome work on those images. The page is basically just tracking my progress on uploading the different collections. BMacZero (talk) 05:45, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Fall 2018 edition

Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Community updates

• Multilingual Captions, the first feature release for Structured Data, is coming in January of 2019
  • Be on the lookout for the beta testing announcement
  • Help using captions has been set up, if you'd like to go ahead and see the workflow
• Two IRC office hours were held since the last newsletter
  • Log for 4 October
  • Log for 1 November
• Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd ^webchat

Things to do / input and feedback requests

Current:

• Help determine and propose properties on Wikidata for Commons
• Review designs for structured licensing and copyright
• Join the community focus group!

Since the last newsletter:

• Review a prototype for searching structured Commons (October 2018)
• "Good coverage" for depicts tagging (Sept. 2018)
• Review and discuss mockups for displaying the new metadata section of the file page (18 September - 9 October 2018)
• Depicts statements draft requirements (14 August - 31 August 2018)
• Identify Wikidata properties that Commons will need (26 June - 14 August 2018)

Presentations / Press / Events

• Presentation by Keegan on the first features to be released for Structured Data, presented at Wikiconference North America, Columbus, Ohio, October 2018.
• Sandra presented a project update at the GLAM-Wiki conference in Tel Aviv, Israel, November 2018, as part of an update and panel discussion.
• Structured Data on Commons was the subject of a keynote presentation by Sandra (see slides) at the Baltic Audiovisual Archives Council conference in Tallinn, Estonia, November 2018.

Partners and allies

• The info portal on Structured Commons now includes a section on GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums).
• We are currently planning the first GLAM pilot projects that will use structured data on Wikimedia Commons. One project has already started: the Swedish Heritage Board researches and develops a prototype tool to provide improved metadata (translations, data additions...) from Wikimedia Commons back to the source institution. Read the project brief.
• The documentation for batch uploads of files to Wikimedia Commons will be improved in 2019, as part of preparing for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons. To prepare, the GLAM team at the Wikimedia Foundation wants to understand better which types of documentation you already use, and how you like to learn new GLAM-Wiki skills and knowledge. Fill in a short survey to provide input!

Stay up to date!

• Follow the Structured Data on Commons project on Phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/34/
• Subscribe to this newsletter to receive it on a talk page of your own choice.

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk)

Message sent by MediaWiki message delivery - 17:58, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry. If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

• File:Bucharest City Hall 1.jpg

And also:

• File:Bucharest City Hall 3.jpg

Yours sincerely, De728631 (talk) 16:00, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Mack Trucks

You're correct. Mack Trucks really isn't a single dealership. It's a manufacturer. I'll delete that category from it. Thank you for pointing this out. Atwngirl (talk) 13:48, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

• @Atwngirl: Thanks! - Jmabel ! talk 18:24, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

en:Seattle Underground Downtown

This article seems to be about what I was referring to. You seem to be describing current boardwalks. Quote "Pioneer Square had originally been built mostly on filled-in tidelands and, as a consequence, it often flooded". Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 09:57, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

@Eddaido: Answering in the discussion we were already having. Please don't split the discussion. - Jmabel ! talk 18:30, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

wrong person pinged :-) Nthep (talk) 18:51, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Sorry! Fixed. - Jmabel ! talk 19:03, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Comarques/Comarcas

He visto en tu perfil que entiendes el castellano y yo no hablo inglés. Lo he hecho por cuestiones prácticas (plantillas, nombre de categorías superiores y subcategorías, etc.), pero entiendo que puede ser polémico y, si es así, no tengo ningún problema en deshacerlo. Gracias y un saludo.--JT Curses (talk) 17:22, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

@Jtcurses: Pues, yo soy norteamericano y, como decimos, yo no tengo un perro en esta pelea. Sospecho que será contencioso, pero quizás no. - Jmabel ! talk 18:27, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Con herramientas como Cat-a-lot no resulta complicado revertir las categorías redirigidas, bastante menos que participar en un tipo de debate como ese, así que te reitero que si la polémica se da, no tengo ningún problema en hacer-lo.--JT Curses (talk) 18:32, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Your best shot 2018

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

I'm wishing you all the best for the New Year and I hope you're going to have many memorable photo opportunities in 2019. With 2018 coming to an end, it's time to look back at the past 12 months. I'm curious – what would you consider your best shot of 2018 and why? I invite you to share your image and your thoughts in order to provide others with the opportunity to celebrate, learn, and enjoy:

Your best shot 2018

Thanks for all your effort in sharing your vision of the world with others under a free license!

Warmly, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 19:45, 30 December 2018 (UTC)